31nash880 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Feels like I have made alot of new friends here. Just wondering if any have plans to go to Charlotte Autofair. Would be great to meet in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I drove to Charlotte from Upstate NY to see the Autofair a couple of years ago, something I've always wanted to do. I was a bit disappointed, mostly hot rods. The flea market was a little better. It had some vintage washing machines and roto-tillers. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 The AACA has its Southeastern National Spring Meet one day in conjunction with the Auto Fair. You should see some good antique cars there. That has been the arrangement the last several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 You mean the Charlotte Parking Lot where all the tow vehicles are parked in the car corral? Yeah, I did that once. Once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Wow, so many negative vibes. After missing it for 2 (Covid)years , we will be happily making the trek from north central Maryland. It’s typically warmer there, but this year it looks like a high temp of about 60. (Pack the sweatshirt) The two swap meet fields behind the track are very much reminiscent of Hershey. Inside the track, there are a lot of shared spaces with car folks hanging out. We might walk the 1.5 mile track to see the various muscle cars for sale, but that’s optional. The AACA show on Saturday is always a treat. Like Spring Carlisle, it’s a large event that caters to so many tastes. Both are well run and both are still great events in their own right. Are they Hershey? No, only Hershey will claim that title. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I never miss Charlotte and I'm a brass car guy. There are bargains to find but walking and visiting is always a highlight. I've always referred to it as the friendliest meet in the South. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmhowe Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I've never been. But, I think this year I will go. Any prewar parts? Any British sports car parts? PMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I will be there Friday and will attend the Judging School. I will also look around a bit and can usually find something to buy. On Saturday I will be judging the AACA Meet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I've been there several times, but not his year. My two new knees are not reliable yet and big flea markets require good knees. However the Show is outside the Speedway and has easy access. Maybe next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, pmhowe said: I've never been. But, I think this year I will go. Any prewar parts? Any British sports car parts? PMH We play with British stuff too but have found only a few items over the years for our MGBs and TC. It's a treasure hunt though and you're just as likely to find what you need mixed in with Chevy parts. Advantage is, the vendor has no idea what he has. It is a real treasure hunt. As for pre-war, it's slim picking, but...a few years ago I found some great brass age stuff from a vendor cleaning out grandpa's shed. I bought brass era T stuff, a couple of nice brass speedometer, clocks, gas headlamps etc. It was a big score cheeeeep. No doubt, Hershey is king for prewar but Charlotte is just so much fun. I'll be judging at the AACA show too. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 You just never know. Several years ago, a vendor in one of the back fields sold me a Becker Mexico radio with a large Bakelite speaker enclosure. All for $20. They joked about being able to get another case of beer. The radio traced to mid 1970’s European sports cars and the speaker to late 1950’s Mercedes. The radio went to the UK and the speaker to the UAE. And not for beer money. You have to walk every aisle and look in every space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: You mean the Charlotte Parking Lot where all the tow vehicles are parked in the car corral? Yeah, I did that once. Once. Yep. I went once, over 20 years ago & it was all modern stuff then. Probably less than 5% was pre war. It's great if you collect 350 Chevy chrome valve covers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durant Mike Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Went several years ago and judged some cars there. That was the only thing I liked. The event was a real disappointment! Car corral had some cars but mostly modern cars and trucks for sale. Flea market had very little pre war or even antique car parts, mostly hot rod parts. Won't go again unless it's to judge cars for our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42cady Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I have been going every year since the 70's. It is not Hershey with the pre-war parts but they can be found and usually get a great deal on them . Most club members do not realize that AACA will be judging 1997 and older cars and the younger generation will be hoping to find parts for 70's 80's and early 90's cars and trucks. I also enjoy the AACA National Meet on Saturday. It is a great weekend at the Auto Fair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: You mean the Charlotte Parking Lot where all the tow vehicles are parked in the car corral? Yeah, I did that once. Once. Matt, tow vehicles are only allowed in on Thursday and Sunday and they are monitored by Hornets Nest Staff to limit their time in there. This has been in place for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, 42cady said: Most club members do not realize that AACA will be judging 1997 and older cars and the younger generation will be hoping to find parts for 70's 80's and early 90's cars and trucks. I'm confident that AACA members haven't forgotten the 25-year rule. I have cars of the 1970's and 1980's, and collectors of all ages can appreciate them. Though I don't want to see trailers parked in a car corral, or Beanie Babies in an automotive flea market, I would be happy if vendors carried a good selection of 1970's to 1990's material. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, 61polara said: Matt, tow vehicles are only allowed in on Thursday and Sunday and they are monitored by Hornets Nest Staff to limit their time in there. This has been in place for many years. That definitely wasn't the case when I was there a few years ago (2018). A significant number of the cars in the car corral were late-model trucks or SUVs, and they were there the entire weekend. Yes, it may technically be a "rule," but it apparently wasn't enforced when I was there. In fact, I think someone told me only duallies were forbidden but everything else was OK. I made a post about it at the time with photos of the various modern trucks parked everywhere. Here are my spaces in the car corral: Here's the view in front of my spaces for the entirety of the weekend: And this was behind me: Here's the post showing photos of just some of the late-model trucks in the car corral: It was very disappointing to spend a lot of money to bring several high-quality AACA-appropriate cars to the event and be completely overshadowed by modern pickup trucks. The AACA show was great, but I found the car corral to be a waste of my time and money, I'm very sorry to say. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Matt You and Dave are talking apples and oranges, because you are talking about "tow vehicles" for sale, and Dave is talking about the AACA show-car tow vehicles that have their own special parking location. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) Any way, back to the topic of this post. I will be there, as I'm Chief Judge of the AACA National. You'll find me in the large tent outside the track with the AACA Registration Packet pickup most of Thursday - Saturday. Stop by and introduce your self. Dave Bowman Edited April 5, 2022 by 61polara (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Have a great time everyone. Looks like the weather will be dry on the weekend but certainly could warm up a bit. Will miss the show Saturday but new replacement parts were installed last Wednesday and I am getting around slowly. Dave, Stan has more trophies he is bringing down for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Steve I hope those replacement parts are NOT nos parts and are brand new production modern state of the art parts. dave s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, SC38dls said: Steve I hope those replacement parts are NOT nos parts and are brand new production modern state of the art parts. dave s They no longer have NOS replacement parts for this body. I don't know if there is a word for an inside exoskeleton But I have enough metal and plastic in me that the worry is not a natural death but a rusting away! ( yes, I know the cobalt steel and titanium aren't going to rust!) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Wait 'til you want to get on a plane. You'll set off the alarms just getting out of the cab! I have two fake shoulders and a fake hip, and I've seen just about every kind of pat-down they've invented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akstraw Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Wax on, wax off. Car is shined up and on the trailer. Looking forward to a great show on Saturday! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyardjeff Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 I would like to go there some day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Never been but would like to go someday just because. My brother will be moving to NC in a year or two. Maybe I can stop by on my way to see him. Matt, I understand your comments, but keep in mind. By the looks of those trucks they are the people than can afford to buy the kind of stuff you are selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 18 hours ago, oldcarfudd said: Wait 'til you want to get on a plane. You'll set off the alarms just getting out of the cab! I have two fake shoulders and a fake hip, and I've seen just about every kind of pat-down they've invented. Not to hijack this thread but I got you beat by a mile! Sadly, back, neck, hip, knees, shoulders, toe, heart all have meatal. Back a ton...one of my shoulder replacements has come loose after 11 years and is being replaced in November. I am all too familiar with some of the pat downs...the neck seems to really set things off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Well then, you really ought to have taken better care of yourself! Bionic AACA executive... I know a lot of my misery was self-inflicted, but I also have bad genetics. We even call it "Williamson Arthritis Curse"- we all have it. And WAC is why I'm passing on AutoFair. Not sure I can walk the thing anymore and I'm too damn cheap to rent a scooter!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkhammer Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 I just got a call from a friend who is at the Autofair today and he's telling me that attendance of vendors in the fields and car corral is WAY down. Possibly because it's early on and things will maybe (hopefully) pick up tomorrow? It'll be interesting to hear from others that made the trek. I was hoping to go but just couldn't swing the time away this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31nash880 Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 Also rain in the area today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Cole Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said: Not to hijack this thread but I got you beat by a mile! Sadly, back, neck, hip, knees, shoulders, toe, heart all have meatal. Back a ton...one of my shoulder replacements has come loose after 11 years and is being replaced in November. I am all too familiar with some of the pat downs...the neck seems to really set things off. Steve, I still think you qualify as HPOF ORIGINAL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 edinmass would probably call you floor sweepings! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Outside swap meet fields are sparse (Friday); we got inside the track long enough to see the spaces there seem full. What I saw of the car corral does look light. NTL, going back on Saturday for the inside swap meet and the AACA show. The weather is chilly compared to previous years, but no rain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Got a call from a friend who’s there, says car corral is sparse and venders few…sorry to hear it’s not doing well… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akstraw Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Had a great day in the swap meet areas with one really good find and a number of the usual tool and supply purchases. Many of the pre-COVID vendor ‘regulars’ not here, but a beautiful spring day with lots to see (and buy). Looking forward to the AACA show tomorrow! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 The Saturday swap meet and car corral were like nothing I’ve ever seen at Charlotte. Sparse trending to deserted. Sad, but Covid and other factors have taken its toll. I know the region is at the mercy of the facility owner- but $15 gate fees and (very) poorly maintained portable toilets mean next year is likely to be worse. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkhammer Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 This is not good news obviously. What has gone wrong? Covid? Weather? Poor management? We need these swap meets to not only survive but to thrive or else we'll all become couch potatoes and do all our "swapping" online. It'll be interesting to see how Spring Carlisle is in a couple of weeks. Hopefully full, busy and thriving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Unfortunately, I think there are several forces at work. Online sites (ebay, C-list, FB marketplace) make it easier and less expensive to sell to a much wider potential market. Couple this with the fact that used parts are drying up and the hobby is aging out. Carlisle shrinks every year, and frankly, even when there are crowds, few people are actually buying parts for projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) We just got back. Swap meet was sparse from what we could se - but I know a few folks who found great bargains there including some pre war stuff. Nasty storms earlier in the week and cold Temps with stiff breezes didn't help. Can't control the weather. The AACA show was great. Another fun weekend for us and hats off to Hornets Nest Region for another fun time. Glad I decided not to wear shorts today though. Terry Edited April 10, 2022 by Terry Bond (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazA Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) Had a great time the meet and the show! First time there. On Wed. drove 14 hours from Syracuse NY area with our '66 Caddy show car (in enclosed trailer), and we won a Senior award. Also met up with 4-5 others from Syracuse area who enjoyed the event, some drove, some flew. One even bought a car in the car corral. Drifting with son in the Mopar was fun too! Nice meeting all the people, and special thanks to the Hornet's Nest region who put on a great event. Enjoyed judging and loved the tent picnic too. Over 15+ hour trip back yesterday, but we stopped at Shenandoah caverns for a nice break heading home and took our time. Liked the newer vehicles too in the corral as we are looking for a second southern diesel truck, but that didn't pan out. Walked the entire swap meet Th-Fri and also bought around $2000 of mostly Caddy parts (2 pics below)....filled our short bed truck Hard to see in pics, but around 80+ solid bumper ends, among other parts, including '57 Fleetwood parts, that were headed to scrap. Edited April 11, 2022 by ChazA (see edit history) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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