BobinVirginia Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) This is a car for sale on Hemmings. Definitely not mine but I’d be proud to have it. Can anyone here speak on the history of this car? https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/haynes/model-75/2544910.html Edited April 1, 2022 by BobinVirginia (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I may have seen this car at the Macungie, Pa. annual car show at least 10 years ago. There was a blue Haynes of this era and body style--and how many more such cars could there be? A little known fact: Haynes also made a V-12 engine. I was getting insights from an elderly man I knew, and brought up the subject of V-12's and V-16's. He pondered for a second and reflected, "Yes, Haynes made a V-12." Few of today's collectors would have known that, but the Haynes V-12 was the first thing that came to his thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: I may have seen this car at the Macungie, Pa. annual car show at least 10 years ago. There was a blue Haynes of this era and body style--and how many more such cars could there be? A little known fact: Haynes also made a V-12 engine. I was getting insights from an elderly man I knew, and brought up the subject of V-12's and V-16's. He pondered for a second and reflected, "Yes, Haynes made a V-12." Few of today's collectors would have known that, but the Haynes V-12 was the first thing that came to his thought. John: The Haynes V-12 was also OHV which really distinguishes it from others such as the contemporary Packard Twin Six. I've yet to ever see one, but would love to. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I've never seen a Haynes V-12, either. Somewhere I read or heard that they weren't all that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: I've never seen a Haynes V-12, either. Somewhere I read or heard that they weren't all that good. John: The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805-1942, edited by Kimes and Clark notes these 365 ci 'Light Twelves' were in production from 1917 to 1922, that only 650 were built in total. The price segment from $2,800 to $4,950 was pretty heady territory for a nameplate that hadn't been competing in beforehand. If the engine was troublesome, the reputation would have become known quickly. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: If the engine was troublesome, the reputation would have become known quickly. Maybe the V-12's purportedly bad reputation was indeed known by people who lived at that time and experienced it. Many historical facts I have uncovered that are forgotten today. Do we remember how good Alpena cars were? My elderly friend told me a story about his brother's Alpena. Did 1922 Chandlers have any weak points? Why was the Scripps-Booth humorously called "Slips Loose?" I don't know all these answers, but garagemen of the day probably did. Edited April 1, 2022 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Great looking and rare 100 year old car, like new top to bottom, be interesting to see what kind of money this will change hands for, if we ever find out. Thanks for posting BiV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: Maybe the V-12's purportedly bad reputation was indeed known by people who lived at that time and experienced it. Many historical facts I have uncovered that are forgotten today. Do we remember how good Alpena cars were? My elderly friend told me a story about his brother's Alpena. Did 1922 Chandlers have any weak points? Why was the Scripps-Booth humorously called "Slips Loose?" I don't know all these answers, but garagemen of the day probably did. John: The reputation for good or bad of a particular make or series would spread at the time they were current but fade away as those cars moved through the attrition cycle. Only the few individuals who dealt with the problems would recall as did your elderly friend. It's a shame to lose those perspectives, those who are the conservators of the remaining survivor cars may yet rediscover what the 'old-timers' knew. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 I’ve studied the Haynes company pretty well. I knew of the V12 but I have no clue if any survive. My Haynes has the 288ci Light Six being that it’s the smaller model 50 body. The twelves only went in the roadsters and 70 series. It would be amazing to see one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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