broker-len Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 see picture I have the plug wire loom and have been trying to id it for years what is the car----------------thanks bobnroman@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 1928 Chrysler in the foreground. Here is a roadster version.... Edited March 6, 2022 by keiser31 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 5 hours ago, keiser31 said: 1928 Chrysler in the foreground. Here is a roadster version.... Something odd about the side cover on the engine in the top photo - it has a one-piece side cover. The Chrysler engine has its cover in two pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 13 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: Something odd about the side cover on the engine in the top photo - it has a one-piece side cover. The Chrysler engine has its cover in two pieces. With the race car in the background maybe a little extra customizing/hot rodding going on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) Agree. That cover sticks out like a sore thumb. It does not match the patina or color of the rest of the engine. Someone has been there. I've seen patches like this that covered a crack in a block before. Dandy Dave! Edited March 7, 2022 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Try for a higher level of difficulty and identify the silver car in the background. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, alsancle said: Try for a higher level of difficulty and identify the silver car in the background. From the roof looks to be a 4 door touring or are you referring to No 9? Edited March 8, 2022 by 3macboys (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 9 hours ago, 3macboys said: From the roof looks to be a 4 door touring or are you referring to No 9? #9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 7:17 AM, alsancle said: #9 If someone can ID the license plate on the touring car as far as state might be able to narrow down the tracks that the car may have raced on. In the meantime I'm going with the logic that Bill Elliott ran the 9 car, Chase Elliott runs the 9 car so working backwards this must be Bill's grandfather's car.... The car has some distinctive features such as the tube that looks to run across the center of the hood and the shroud in front of the driver that should show in period pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 It is Schumacher Special #9. The photo was taken in Yonkers NY at Schumacher Motor Service sometime around 1930. #9 was built on a Model A Duesenburg chassis and the tube you see is like a gun sight down the middle of the hood. I have a lengthy letter from 1976 written to historian Fred Roe describing this particular car in detail from a first person account taken in the mid 1930s. I know all this because the photo the OP used is mine that I received from the Schumacher family. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 Thank you for the info I never heard of a schumacher is that the car ? do you know what motor they used trying to market the plug wire tube thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, broker-len said: Thank you for the info I never heard of a schumacher is that the car ? do you know what motor they used trying to market the plug wire tube thanks for your help Now that I'm looking at it, #9 is not the one with the Duesenberg chassis and engine. He must of used the gun sight on more than one Special. The Schumacher with the Duesenberg Model A engine in it was seen 1935 when it was on a beach in Massachusetts and described in the letter to Fred Roe. I guess I don't know which number that one is but it is before #9, as I have pictures of 9, 10, 11, and the sprint cars that came later. Here are a couple more of #9. Typically they were polished aluminum to start with and then down the road they would sometimes get painted. Later on this car got a beetle back covering the water and gas tanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 And if anyone is interested, here is #10 and #11 (which is the one that is mine). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 again trying to id the spark plug tube is the motor a Duesy ??? or a schumaher or something else what is the general opinion ?--------------------thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 13 hours ago, 3macboys said: If someone can ID the license plate on the touring car as far as state might be able to narrow down the tracks that the car may have raced on. In the meantime I'm going with the logic that Bill Elliott ran the 9 car, Chase Elliott runs the 9 car so working backwards this must be Bill's grandfather's car.... The car has some distinctive features such as the tube that looks to run across the center of the hood and the shroud in front of the driver that should show in period pictures. The spark plug tube is Chrysler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 hours ago, alsancle said: And if anyone is interested, here is #10 and #11 (which is the one that is mine). That’s awesome! Do you have any current pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, BobinVirginia said: That’s awesome! Do you have any current pics? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 hours ago, alsancle said: That will be amazing when finished. Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha39 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 No doubt about it Chrysler 28-29 Spark plug lead tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I believe this is the same car (not the Rolls) shown in the first picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 What year and model is this Chrysler Roadster? If it wasn't for the guy in the photo I wouldn't be here to help ID the Schumacker #11 years ago when it was discovered. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, alsancle said: I believe this is the same car (not the Rolls) shown in the first picture? Maybe a 1924 Cadillac? Not the car in the first photo. Edited March 11, 2022 by keiser31 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1937hd45 said: What year and model is this Chrysler Roadster? If it wasn't for the guy in the photo I wouldn't be here to help ID the Schumacker #11 years ago when it was discovered. Bob Possibly a 1926 Chrysler G70. Edited March 11, 2022 by keiser31 (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Thanks! Would wire wheels have been a factory option that early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: Thanks! Would wire wheels have been a factory option that early? If you mean the Chrysler, I believe they did have the wire wheel option in 1926. Edited March 11, 2022 by keiser31 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Yes, my 1926 Chrysler G70 had optional Buffalo type HC4 wire wheels, still looking for an extra wheel with 72 spokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) On 3/11/2022 at 5:27 PM, viv w said: Yes, my 1926 Chrysler G70 had optional Buffalo type HC4 wire wheels, still looking for an extra wheel with 72 spokes. Dental drive like the ones on race cars or an Auburn? Correction: I read Buffalo but was thinking of Dayton because of another car. Edited March 13, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The Chrysler G70 had 20 inch corrugated drive, same as Stutz but probably different number of spokes. Mine has 16 spokes going to the front of the hub and 48 to the rear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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