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I would have thought that EVERYONE that has any interest in this forum would have posted a photo of their car,latest project in the garage,together,apart,something.Pretty neat feature we should all share in.diz <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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Dizzy ~ Perhaps there are any number of us who have no interest in posting photographs of our posessions for the entire world to see. Hasn't theft ot other invasion of privacy ever occurred to some of you folks? <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Many of us who are open enough to give our names on this forum, as requested some time back by the administrator, are easily located through club rosters.

No pictures from me, thank you very much. ~ hvs

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I run 2-3 web sites for clubs all around the country, I have founs a lotof folks like to show off thier cars and trucks but there are some that feel that showing thier prized posessions off on line is a threat to thier privicy and think that ost will come and steal them.

Well let's put it this way if your going to steal a car from a collector then you already know where they live and what they have. If you own a trailer queen and most that don't want to have pictures on web sites they are trailer queen owners and leave thier cars in the trailer between shows , how risky is that?

I know of right now 6 cars in trailers that all you have to do is back up late at night and drive off with the trailer and car and they would not know they are gone before they get back from a trip and in the spring when there is a car show .

So as for posting pictures well I like to and if you think your going to steal my Truck well go ahead and try it .

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I respect the wishes of anyone who doesn't want to post pictures for whatever reason. I suspect that most of those who haven't posted yet (like me) are waiting for the right combination of having the car out, having the camera available and functioning, and sunshine. (My last attempt at a picture was ruined by shadows). As for those worried about sharing information for risk of theft, I would like to hear from someone knowledgable about how big a problem theft is. My understanding is that thieves want something that they can either strip for parts that are in demand and expensive to replace (e.g. Honda), or they want a car that they can put in a shipping container and resell easily in another country (Latin America being the most common final destination, SUV's being the common target). With this in mind, I don't perceive a large risk of theft for antique autos. Antique autos tend to attract attention (which thieves don't want), and there is a relatively small pool of buyers for parts for a specific make and model (compared with the pool of buyers for late model parts). Any thoughts?

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Well now! I don't usually think too much about theft on the highway, although I should. I lock my trailer and my truck when I go out to eat or gas up. Never thought much about it until this past weekend. I'm in the J C Taylor Hospitality Suite Saturday night, where I'd like to spend every Saturday night(can't beat the free liquor), when I strike up a conversation with a lady, what else, from Georgia who had recently had a theft. Seems she and her husband were traveling through the Valley of Va. on I81 when they stopped at a "Cracker Barrel" for lunch. They locked up the truck and went in to eat. Afterwards, they jump in the truck, not noticing anything, and continue down I81. They get into North Carolina when they reach for their suitcase in the back seat to find it missing. They had layed coats over their luggage, and whoever stole their stuff put the coats right over the now empty back seat. They lost all their luggage, camera with film, other small articles in grovebox, and Oh! $400.00 worth of Hershey Chocolate(What a loss). So, they cleaned out the truck, but left the truck, right in front of the "Cracker Barrel" broad daylight. Enough said. Wayne

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Dear Howard and Bob,Never thought of myself as a SEE WHAT I GOT KIND OF GUY,also the THIEFT thing NEVER entered my mind,don't think like that,hope i never do.post those pictures boys,i want to see all that neat old iron.diz <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Club rosters are just the start of it. There is switchboard.com, anywho.com, yahoo.com, google.com and more that will give you the name and address of anyone who has a listed telephone number. And, for a fee, USSEARCH will give you more, including people without telephones. Oh, don't forget anybirthday.com if you were born in the USA. But since all of that stuff is out there, I don't let it worry me too much because I can't do anything about it except move into a cave. I couldn't fit the Buick into the cave with me. So, the main reason I don't post those pictures is I don't know how, and don't have time to find out <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Diz, are you related to the great baseball player, Dizzy Dean? You have the same first name <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Perhaps having had the experience of having parts stolen off of my car while touring on an organized tour <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> has made me more than a little bit cautious and rather cynical. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I have graduated from the, "It can't happen to me" school of innocence.

And by the way, there have been cases of "steal to fill an order" in the antique car hobby in the past.

Like Bob, I'm really not a "Look at what I have kind of guy." <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ~ hvs

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Earl, You opened an interesting door of opportunity for me to pick on you, but I'm "Buick Friendly" today. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> And Howard, although I'm a showoff (you should have seen me at Hershey), only a fool would leave his garage doors open 24 hours a day or shoot his mouth off about what he owns. That's what's neat about the forum, you can send pictures privately if you like without worry. If the receiver asked too many questions than you can beware, I guess. Does that make any sense? Wayne

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Hey Earl, If you'd let someone steal a couple of those Buicks, You could stop heating the garage or rent the place out to me. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You'd even clean up on the insurance coverage. You know those Buicks aren't worth what you have them insured for. Wayne

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Skyking ~ Not MY plate numbers to MY house. All vehicles are registered to a PO Box. And the cars are in a secure location away from both home and PO Box. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

It's not that my cars are all that rare, unusual or valuable. It is just that one has been with me for 52 years and the others from between 8 and 35 years and I would hate like hell to lose one or more.

hvs

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Dear Jim,Great story,suuuuuper car.My wifes wants to come to N.Y.C. in the spring,maybe we could arrange a ride awwww it was just a thought.THANKS for sharing,stories and photos.diz <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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Still confused,isn't this forum with photos what the AACA needs to spread the word and pics to the U.S.A. and beyond.There are surely a lot of people that can not afford to get as INVOLVED as a lot of us are,but would truly enjoy getting on their computer and looking at and remembering a lot of the iron that is contained on this forum.These people that do not want ANYONE to know what they have are surely not the same people that show their cars all over the country and hope no one comes to see.diz <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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Somehow i do not think Hershey would have been the same for me if nobody showed up and they just passed out trophys after dinner.In my mind it is all about the folks that stop in front of your car and comment,good ,bad or otherwise.The i remember when stories,people talk about and remember for years.diz <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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The feature is used for lots more that "Look at what I have" In our Amphicar lovers digest, we use that feature for many things. Somebody asks about wire routing, "POOF! Here is a picture of the proper placement. Or the "Is this the correct whatcha McAllit?" and the list goes on. One guy had a vintage Packard sign removed from his garage in Canada and he placed a photo of it there for all to see, just in case. So keep that in mind.

As far as theft goes, if they want your car, it is gone. All you can do is use good common sense by using locks and deterrants. I drive my Amphicar regularly so I am well known in my area. It is not hard to figure out where I live as I have 2 Amphicars on either side of my driveway. For $2 anyone can run your plate and get your info anyway.

John

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If you are fortunate enough to own a 6 figure Duesenberg, you probably live in a gated community with ADT alarms and all, theft is no problem.

If you don't and theft is a consideration do like I did after smash and grab kids ripped off a 6 drawer chest of tools, 1/2" aircraft cable locked to the bench leg, they will need 6 strong guys to move it with everything attached (The sheriff deputy recommended that). Same goes for a car, logging chain around axle and threaded through a V8 short block will take care of even the best car snatcher, it won't roll onto a trailer very well.

I like the photos and seeing the work other guys are doing.

Stude8

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What I hope to see on the photo post area is a HUGE cross section of photos people can reference. It's not neccessary to do anything but to indentify the vehicle. Whether you choose to put up more information is up to you.

Bottom line: if you have digital photos of automobiles please post them!

Thanks,

Peter

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Dizzy, I don't get it either. I posted my cars because I'm proud of them. I do all my own body work and paint and this is not my line of work, I'm a printer. I'm not a guy with alot of money that can go buy a restored car all finished. If I want one, I work hard at restoring it myself. Are these people who talk about not bragging at what they have the same who drive them to shows? If so, do they cover them after parked so they don't have to flaunt them? Sounds kind of hypocritical to me. As long as Peter has this forum. I WILL POST!!!!!!

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Skyking ~ Like you I have done a lot of my own work over the past 43 years. And yes, I am one of those who likes to take my cars to AACA Meets and on the national tours of AACA, VMCCA and HCCA. I don't mind people seeing my cars at these functions, BUT I am not one to pay money to participate in commercial ventures such as dealerships that charge the exhibitor to show his car for the benefit of the dealership's business, just to have another chance show off the car. I just don't have that great a need to have my cars viewed by the general public. Most national judging meets and national tours attract mainly club members and those are the people I like to share my cars with, NOT the general public which often shows NO respect for the cars. You know, kids sliding down long fenders of the older cars and stuff like that.

As for driving, I can and do drive to a meet or tour so long as it is a reasonable distance from home and the car is not over 70 years old. I consider 750 miles one way reasonable for a post WW II vehicle, and plan to do that with a '55 in June. However it makes no sense to try to drive a 1914 car 1700 miles to a tour and 1700 back home again, as I would have had to do on last year's AACA/HCCA Reliability tour.

I am probably going to pi** a few people off with this observation, but I get the feeling that this is not a discussion for people with older [pre WW II and before] antique cars. If your antique is a '60s or '70s car, then you can drive that anywhere without any trouble and it is an unlikely candidate for theft of car or parts. And yes I have, and have had, a number of cars of that era, so I have nothing against the more modern antiques. But thieves would probably rather have your Camrey or SUV.

Just my opinion and not an effort to start a war. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ~ hvs

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Howard, I can understand you not wanting to go to local "paid" shows to get more exposure, but our Northern Neck Region gets paid pretty well for the 3 or 4 dealership shows we have every year. It's an expected part of our budget every year. Now, The guy with the 1/2 inch aircraft cable, nice stuff. Reminds me of a theft years ago in a large GMC truck dealer in Richmond, Va. Thieves broke into the side door and couldn't get any further until they found the Acetelyne Torch set and boy did he have fun the rest of the night. They cut through soda boxes, nab machines, large tool cages,and the parts room door.That little torch cleaned them boys out. Just a thought, the best defense is a good offense, like a 45 caliber pistol lying beside you. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Wayne

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I would post my car pictures, but all of them are either in pcx or tif formats which will not post to the DF.

I have a different opinion to hvs' on showing our cars to the public. I like to drive my 80 year old car on excursions up to about 100 miles one way in the region. And believe me around here the traffic is sort of "old car friendly", but not always. I also like to put the car in situations where the general public can look at it and ask questions. I'm vigilent about inappropriate "touching" of my car; of course certain folks could try it on me (not very PC huh!). <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Skyking ~ I think you are probably right. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Wayne ~ If the paid show benefits the region that is one thing. What I object to is a local dealer show that charges $10 for us to bring our cars so he can draw a crowd. NOTHING is given to the local region. I do believe each owner gets a hot dog, but I do not attend.

hvs

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Don't sweat it Howard. One must understand, you can't get as many parts for your cars at a NAPA store like you can if you're driving 60's & 70's iron. I know if our old Whippet throws a fan belt, it'll be awhile before we get another one if we don't have a spare. As for the local shows, it isn't only the kids sliding on the fenders, it's the adults allowing their dogs to jump up on the side of cars as well. I've seen that several times, and why people get the urge to take dogs into car shows, is beyond me. I can honestly say that I have never seen any acts of disrespect towards a person's vehicle at a National Meet like I have seen at local car shows. Most people who attend a National Meet know what it takes to restore and preserve a vehicle and respect it as such. At an AACA Meet, the vehicles are judged on the vehicle and the quality of the restoration, and not by the prettiness of the body color or the popularity of its owner. I do agree about not paying a car dealer a fee to show a car at a dealer's profit, but if the fee is being used to cover the cost of awards, then I don't see a problem with it. The one good thing about an entry fee is that it prevents some idiot from just driving any old car so he can have a place to park because they're too lazy to walk like the rest of the spectators. Don't worry about pi**ing someone off, it looks like your observation is right on the money.

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I don't know if anyone has seen it yet, but I just posted some pictures of my 1960 Mercury Monterey convertible on the picture post sight. I found this rare car in a small backwoods parts yard that closed up in the mid 70's. I was told by the daughter of the original owner of the yard that it was supposedly put in there in 1965 because of bad rear end gears that were never repaired. It has a little over 70K miles on it, and it is remarkably solid to have been sitting outside for the last 38 years. It still has the original 430 engine and auto trans. It still has it's original black paint with black and white interior, I have removed what was left of the original white top. I would love to know how many of these Monterey convertibles were produced in 1960, I cannot find ANY production numbers listed anywhere, if anybody knows, I would really appreciate the input. She's not too pretty right now, but she's restorable! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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