41 "body" serial number location and stamping size?

[gmoldmule]

I recently picked up a 41 Custom Torpedo and am still trying to get a power of attorney from the original owner's daughter/executor of his estate.  She messed up filling out the title, lives out of state and is ghosting me now that she has the power of attorney form...   I may try to bond for a title, but, doubt I can get an official vin inspection due to lack of numbers.  I have a scan of the front of the title from the lady, the guy selling the cars for her tossed the old title when he saw it was messed up.

I found the frame stamp next to the steering gearbox, but, it only has the last 3 numbers remaining and only parts of two other letters...   The body tag under the hood on the firewall does not have serial number info on this year. 
I have the Pontiac Catalog and shop manual, plus some searches say on the left side of the dash.  But, I can't see anything and have no idea how big the stamping would be.  Anyone have one they can show me? 

 

I'm hoping I can make a case for the Vin inspector since the last 3 numbers on the frame are visible.

[pont35cpe]

There is also another tag(serial number)on the firewall, if someone has not removed it. Tag is mounted with 2 screws and is located just above the voltage regulator, and just below the firewall tag you mentioned. Attached is a picture of my tag. Also most prewar cars had the engine number on the title, not the frame number.

Edited August 13, 2021 by pont35cpe (see edit history)

[gmoldmule]

Thanks for the pic.

The body tag on the firewall is still there, but, it doesn't give any serial number info other than the plant it was made in. 
I can't find any spots on the dash or body where the serial tag you posted would have been attached.  I looked for holes originally and assumed the number had been punched in...  It's frustrating.  My 40 Plymouth Coupe had everything where it was supposed to be and perfectly readable.  I had a 1924 Buick Roadster that still had the tag like pictured above mounted to the frame.  Seems Pontiac was flying by the seat of their pants pre WWII. 

[gmoldmule]

Forgot.  The 41 was the last year to not have the engine and body serial numbers matching.  The serial on the title scan I have uses the number stamped on the frame - from what I can tell.   Part of the P and JC are kind of readable, then the last 3 are easy to make out.

[pont35cpe]

See the hole, below the tag, there should be another hole 3 1/2" to the right. That`s where the tag i`m refurring to was mounted. My `36 Buick has the frame number stamped on the top of the transmission, which was a surprise to me..

[gmoldmule]

Wow, now that you point it out, it's totally obvious...  Although, I have never looked at this picture this blown up.  LOL.  Thanks.