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At first glance the moulding on the door and cowl look like 1929-30 Studebaker. The hood and radiator shroud? - I don't know. The front fenders look like Reo, maybe.

 

Because of the style of water jacket cover I think the engine is the smaller 250 cid Commander model.

 

More information needed. What is the wheelbase length?

 

There should be a frame number on an aluminium plate on the left front chassis rail behind the front wheel.

 

There should be a body plate on the firewall. 

 

Might be easier to see with the photos straightened - 

 

 

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Hey, thank you for your thoughts on this carnerd, at this stage, these are the only pics i have of this car, i am going to look at it tomorrow, but thought i would try and do some homework now, because its not making any sense, the hood is, well i dont even know...

the car is in Australia, and thats all i have at this stage

 

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3 minutes ago, Nostalgic said:

Hey, thank you for your thoughts on this carnerd, at this stage, these are the only pics i have of this car, i am going to look at it tomorrow, but thought i would try and do some homework now, because its not making any sense, the hood is, well i dont even know...

the car is in Australia, and thats all i have at this stage

 

 

Remember to take a tape measure to measure the wheelbase and the wheel sizes.

 

See if you can find an engine number - should be on the left side we can see in the photo I think.

 

More photos of course. The instrument panel for example.

 

I see a rumble seat step on the left side fender so I guess it is a right hand drive car.

 

My 1928 GE Dictator cabriolet has them on the left but the gold bag door is on the right - as it is on the mystery car here - which suggests they did not do a right hand drive coupe body rear half body pressing.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, George Smolinski said:

Nice lines on it. Looks like other stuff in that barn. How about photos of them too?

Yes, I like the '68(?) Nissan Cedric in the middle.

 

Craig 

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Thanks again nzcarnerd, after re reading your post, things are adding up a little more, this car is listed as a 29 Studebaker, the grill, and hood obviously arnt 29, It would appear its a bitsa, i will get a better look tomorrow, and go from there, maybe not quite what im after, and maybe perfect for someone else... i shall take some pics, and tape measure..

thanks mate

George Hawkins, ex waikato :)

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The cowl and door moldings and the way it sweeps up the windshield look to be 1930 Studebaker Commander FD which would have the 250 ci straight eight.  If the wheelbase measures 120 inches, good likelihood that is the basis for this custom.   The front fenders look to possibly be early 1930's REO Flying Cloud.  Anybody on the hood and grille shell identity?

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On 6/6/2021 at 1:53 PM, 8E45E said:

Yes, I like the '68(?) Nissan Cedric in the middle.

 

Craig 

 

If you are referring to the workshop photo of my Studebaker, that shop belongs to a friend of my son. He is in New Plymouth and has several of them. We did some maintenance in his shop on the Studebaker before it was driven the 400 miles home. The white sedan is a 1970 130 series Cedric. Not sure of the model of the grey wagon - maybe a 230 series.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, nzcarnerd said:

 

If you are referring to the workshop photo of my Studebaker, that shop belongs to a friend of my son. He is in New Plymouth and has several of them. We did some maintenance in his shop on the Studebaker before it was driven the 400 miles home. The white sedan is a 1970 130 series Cedric. Not sure of the model of the grey wagon - maybe a 230 series.

 

 

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That wagon would most likely be the 810 series, which the sedan was marketed starting in 1977.  

 

It was the white 130 series I was referring to.  In the late 1960's in Canada, they were sold as a Datsun 'Custom Six'.

 

Craig

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1 minute ago, 8E45E said:

That wagon would most likely be the 810 series, which the sedan was marketed starting in 1977.  

 

It was the white 130 series I was referring to.  In the late 1960's in Canada, they were sold as a Datsun 'Custom Six'.

 

Craig

 

The 810 was a Bluebird variation. The grey wagon is definitely a Cedric. I think the badge on the side says 260C. The model was sold in NZ I think but I have an idea he brought that one from Australia.

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You were correct 58L-Y8 it did have a babge on the dash reading commander..

i did take alot of photos today, mostly of his other shed... a couple of Cadillac’s, Chrysler, Daimler Roller, you just never know what some people have salted away, anyway, this car is not what im after, just a little too much work for me, but im sure it will be just right for someone, maybe a good start as a period racer... the body is to far gone for me, however, the chassis, some of the running gear appear to have been restored..

anyways, this guy sure did have some treasure, And a real gentleman, if the photos load for this post, i will put a few more up

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3 minutes ago, Nostalgic said:
On 6/5/2021 at 6:06 PM, nzcarnerd said:

 

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Im not sure i know what you mean on that Craig ?

In this view, the rear section appears to be fixed in place, while the section above the doors appears to be removable.  This view clearly shows a spit roof.  (or Hood, if the British term for 'roof' is causing the confusion.)

 

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1 minute ago, Nostalgic said:

Ok, no to that one, the roof is fixed..

Thanks.

 

Therefore, it must have had an imitation convertible top covering.

 

Craig

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Nostalgic:

Thanks for the Commander FD confirmation.  Other body parts are a conglomeration of whatever appealed to the fellow who started this custom but soon figured out it was a more extensive project than he was capable of finishing.    The collection owner has some pretty interesting cars, any more views of the Daimler and Rolls-Royce coachwork?  

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11 hours ago, Nostalgic said:

You were correct 58L-Y8 it did have a babge on the dash reading commander..

i did take alot of photos today, mostly of his other shed... a couple of Cadillac’s, Chrysler, Daimler Roller, you just never know what some people have salted away, anyway, this car is not what im after, just a little too much work for me, but im sure it will be just right for someone, maybe a good start as a period racer... the body is to far gone for me, however, the chassis, some of the running gear appear to have been restored..

anyways, this guy sure did have some treasure, And a real gentleman, if the photos load for this post, i will put a few more up

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The body tag tells us it was originally an FD series rumble seat coupe. There are no surviving records of individual body style production of any Studes pre 1934.  Total FD production - December 1928 to June `1930 was 17,527. It is reasonable to assume. from the engine number below. that this car was built about 2/3 the way through production and from that there are no more than about 1,000 of these coupes built.

 

 

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Also on the block there will be a casting date. This is the date on a President 8 engine - 20 December 1928 - 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Nostalgic said:

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The home market cars didn't have 'made in the USA' on the badge. That is export only.

 

My hands reflected in the mildly pitted chrome on the radiator shell of my Dictator. The car lived very close to the sea for 50 years.

 

 

 

 

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Beautiful cars these, they really are, looking at the “8” on the headlight bar in your last pic, im thinking the pics of the headlights could be Studebaker, they also have a similar “8” on the bezel, and what must be aftermarket glass, ive never seen that type of glass, and i reckon ive seen a lot of old cars

these are a couple of pics off the internet

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On 6/7/2021 at 2:38 PM, Nostalgic said:

I didnt take many photos at all in the shed with the beautiful Daimler (which i believe is pensively sold) or the rolls

these headlight are interesting, any thoughts ? 

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They are early 1928 studebaker president headlights. Love the lenses. Do they have parts for early 28sim looking for wire wheel hubcaps. 780 819 7404. Someone must have some. 

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