Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 This car is supposed to transport the Grand Wizard (or whatever his title is) of the local American Legion in a parade on Sunday. Turned AC on and blow something. Now I have no engine cooling fan. Clove box manual does not show a fuse for that. Now I'm looking at the service manual. I could use help!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Plumbinguy said: This car is supposed to transport the Grand Wizard (or whatever his title is) of the local American Legion in a parade on Sunday. Turned AC on and blow something. Now I have no engine cooling fan. Clove box manual does not show a fuse for that. Now I'm looking at the service manual. I could use help!!! So, what exactly is the car you’re referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) Chrysler TC by Maserati Ofcoarse. 2.2 Chrysler Turbo manual seems to indicate that there is a relay, but does not tell me where. Thinking I'm going to get some 14 gage wire and wirer it direct for now. Edited May 19, 2021 by Plumbinguy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Since you choose that direction, help will come from elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Don't get me wrong, this not my first choice. I really only mentioned it in case I'm making a huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 And frankly I don't like the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Simple oil change this morning and my car is screwed up. This happens every time I bring a car to a shop for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 I've become scared to death to bring a car to a shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 OK dude, is your TC a v6 or a 2.2? Not sorry to have to ask. Having been in the business 60 years, I would know that if I was looking at the car, but I’m not a mind reader. When you buy parts, you are asked “Year, Make Model and what engine.” These days the VIN would be helpful too. Ill check the correct wiring diagram and let you know what I find. A question for you, If the Grand Wizard is to be riding in this car in a parade, what does he need AC for? Won’t the top be down so he can more easily be seen by his admiring public? Also, other than the radiator cooling fan, what else doesn’t work. If you don’t know, check it out and let us know. The more information you are willing to give, the better we can try to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 89 SOHV 2.2 Chrysler Turbo.last 6 digits of the vin 203814. It's listed with the guy who keeps track of all.the vin numbers.the a/ c is not a problem of course.but at 3 mph without a cooling fan I'll cook the engine.if it's easier call me at 860-428-9146.Thanks as always for your help ZC2FP110XKB203814 Edited May 19, 2021 by Plumbinguy Vin # (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet & Gold Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 ZC2FP110XKB203814 it is a SOHC Bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Thanx much!!! Garnet&Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Plumbinguy said: Turned AC on and blow something. Now I have no engine cooling fan. Wouldn't you think that since you blew something when you turned on the AC that the reason the cooling fan won't come on is related to the AC? Have you driven the car to see if the cooling fan will come on when the engine starts to get hot? Like when idling for a long period in traffic. Normally the cooling fans on most cars come on two different ways. 1- When the AC is turned on the low speed cooling fans are activated. This probably stopped happening when you blew the AC fuse (or something). 2- When the engine exceeds normal operating temperature. The fans may still come on if you allow the engine to get warm enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Yes car is definitely getting hot, fan is definitely not functioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 How hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet & Gold Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Do be careful as the radiator for that engine is expensive and hard to locate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Hey Ronnie, gauge went to the 3/4 point that I noticed. Don't think I cook it. Never saw the gauge that high though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 Seeing how there Doesn't seem to have a fuse, it must be a relay. Just need to know which one and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) More descriptive layout below. Edited May 20, 2021 by Hemi Dude More descriptive layout below. (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet & Gold Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Can you run the ignition on-off-on-off-on and record the fault codes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 That's what I needed Hemi, Thanx again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 You would be wise to check the Fusible Links there in the wiring harness. That may be the cause of the "no fan operation" but not the INITIAL FAILURE which would appear to be a direct 'SHORT CIRCUIT' in the wiring harness which could even be in the AC/Heater control or it's related wiring. Check it out closely. A blown fusible link would require a replacement link installed, NOT straight wire. Unless you want to see the entire wiring harness go up in smoke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 18 hours ago, Ronnie said: 22 hours ago, Plumbinguy said: Turned AC on and blow something. Now I have no engine cooling fan. Wouldn't you think that since you blew something when you turned on the AC that the reason the cooling fan won't come on is related to the AC? You are giving good advice here, this is definitely the correct approach to take in finding the root cause of this electrical failure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 So, did the Grand Wizard get his ride in your TC this past weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 No, could not get the relay in time. They did find someone else though. Hope it's the relay, don't really feel digging around looking for fuseable links, or whatever it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Pick up the relay tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Dude Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Plumbinguy said: Pick up the relay tomorrow. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE POWER TO THE C26 TERMINAL OF THIS CONNECTOR, YOU BETTER CHECK THE FUSIBLE LINKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 K Hemi, Thanx, I'll let you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumbinguy Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 Well, not the relay. Hate when you guys are right like that. Now I go searching for a fuseable link, ooh joy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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