Greacore Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Is there a big difference between 1919 and 1922 touring tops? I ask because I found one on Facebook from 1919 for sale but mine is a 1922. Are they interchangeable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 What model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 The add says 1919 model 45 touring, mine is 1922 6/45. It does have oval rear window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 The add is for $650.00 I realize the the canvas needs replacement but it would be very convenient to have the entire frame with bows and window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kikta Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 check the Buick BIG parts book to see of the bows and sockets are the same part number?/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I already looked in the big book. Not much information. The front bow is the same but no data on the other bows. Without finding one for the exact year and model, the next best thing is another close year of the same make and model. Correct tops frames are extremely difficult to find. Usually no markings, or the pieces have been neglected and you do not have much to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kikta Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1922 6-45 according to my small parts book top assy = #153774 socket assy = #44702 rt and #44703 left Top Bows = Bow #1 = 36377, #2 = 42202, #3 = 45198, Rear = 39528 Maybe someone could check the 1919 small parts book to compare??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Thanks guys. I will see if seller has more information on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 OK, the top is now listed on this site. Is it possible to modify a 1919 to fit a 22? I may have to buy a book of parts for the 19 to compare part numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Mark and all, I looked through all of my Buick illustrated parts catalogs from 1916 through 1921 and none of the part numbers match with the 1922 numbers. This tells me that these top parts and pieces were year model specific. On the 1916 Light Six top, the rear window is oval (or elliptical) shaped, however, it is sewn into the top fabric and not framed like the one in the photo. I'm reasonably certain that the top in the photos is not from a 1916 Buick Light Six. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Greacore: The top for my 1925 Standard Model 25 has a cut down and welded up top from an earlier 1921 thru 1923 larger car complete with the oval Johnston window. I would say you are safe on using this top for your 1922. It will be very close to your needs. According to the photos he posted this is a NEWER than 1919 style top he indicates. Style of 1921, 1922, 1923. As long as the length is for the bigger model 45 you should be fine. The second socket pivot shows at about midpoint of the rear socket. The 1920 and earlier "One Man" tops show the second sockets about the same pivot point as the rear socket at the body tub. As shown below. Mark Kikta will be the go-to man for 1922 top information now Charlie Steffy's 1919-45 1920-K45 I offered on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kikta Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Here is my 22-45 with the old top totally off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kikta Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Here are my 1922 45 top bows and sockets folded 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 Thanks guys, I appreciate all the tips and information. I think I will take a road trip this weekend and snatch it up before it’s too late. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 For comparison here is a photo of the sockets and bows for a "two man top". It shows the second and front bow must be lifted and relocated to a body mount in the front seat area and reversed when folding the roof. It's clumsy and heavy and takes two persons, last fitted to Buicks in 1915, though the 1914 and '15 big six has a "one man top". Regards, Gary 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 I made the 14 hour round trip and I must say, it was totally worth it. Was able to see a couple of really nice vehicles including an old tow truck. I am now the proud owner of the top of a 6/45 with side curtains. Next step for this is to re-canvas. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Dave, Before you showed interest in this top, I had contacted another Buick owner in Illinois that this top was available. He has a 1925 model 25 so this top would require some modifications to fit his car, but the modifications would be easier and cheaper to do than to fabricate from scratch. At first I thought he was in great shape finding another top in the same state, but then I found it would be a 10 hr round trip for him as this top was in the lowest part of the state and he lived near the upper border. I told him that these were very difficult to locate and that if he wanted a top he should move on it. As the adage goes. You snooze, you lose. So congratulations on making a trip that I would have made if I were missing a top. When you are ready to do the top installation I have the documents to help with it. Hugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacore Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 I’m sure it was the same one. I probably passed his house on my way down to get it. For me the worst part is that I work 14 hour shift then drive 14 hours more. It’s great to be young enough to still do this!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Folks can talk about the 'one man top' all they want. Here is a photo of my 1916 D-45 and its new top. I am here to tell you that trying to put this top up in a 'hurry up' situation is not all it's cracked up to be. Back in the day if a person ran into a situation where the rain hits almost immediately, you had to stop the car, take the top cover (boot) off, jump into the back seat area, raise the top, and then maybe snap the side curtains into place. IF you were lucky enough to get this all done before you were wringing the rainwater out of your underwear, you would know that you had been somewhere. I don't care what people will tell you, it still takes two persons to put one of these tops up and get it right. Ask me how I know this. I tried putting the old top up like I described (standing in the back seat area on a clear day) and almost ended up with a hernia. Gary Martin from Goldfield Trim built the new top for this car and it will NEVER be laid back. I do not want any creases in the material, plus, it so much more comfortable riding in the shade on a sunny day. Please keep in mind that this is simply one persons humble opinion and by no means should anyone who chooses to lay their top back be ridiculed or made fun of. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) Judging by this picture most people had their tops up most of the time anyway. Judging by the shadows it was a sunny day, only one guy has his top down. Edited June 3, 2021 by Morgan Wright (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 It is interesting that many of the old photos of a single person with their car is usually with the top down. However, when I look at photos of lots of parked cars, The top are up. Bob Engle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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