Jump to content

WW1 era


nzcarnerd
 Share

Recommended Posts

This photo was posted on an NZ website with the caption 'Cars in NZ, WW1 era'.

 

To me it is obviously not NZ, it looks more like central Europe.

 

Maybe someone recognises the uniforms?

 

The small car on the left with central steering is unusual.

 

 

tp 0305 NZ WW1 era.jpg

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, nzcarnerd said:

This photo was posted on an NZ website with the caption 'Cars in NZ, WW1 era'.

 

To me it is obviously not NZ, it looks more like central Europe.

 

Maybe someone recognises the uniforms?

 

The small car on the left with central steering is unusual.

 

 

tp 0305 NZ WW1 era.jpg

The smaller car on the left is a German Wanderer "Puppchen" with tandem-seating

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

I think the uniforms are German and that the officer in the front seat is in the German Navy. Enlisted men in the Army and the Navy wore a visorless hat like that and can't blow the photo up enough to see better. (Other countries used them as well, including Britain where they were extremely unpopular and short lived.) The officer in the back seat is in a different uniform that might give a clue to the location.

 

I did manage to blow it up a bit and am now more convinced that they are Germans - in the Navy.

Edited by JV Puleo (see edit history)
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
On 5/5/2021 at 2:42 AM, JV Puleo said:

I think the uniforms are German and that the officer in the front seat is in the German Navy. Enlisted men in the Army and the Navy wore a visorless hat like that and can't blow the photo up enough to see better. (Other countries used them as well, including Britain where they were extremely unpopular and short lived.) The officer in the back seat is in a different uniform that might give a clue to the location.

 

I did manage to blow it up a bit and am now more convinced that they are Germans - in the Navy.

 

You were partly right on the German Navy, but I have received some more specific information - 

 

'Our Moscow military uniforms expert thinks the uniforms are German WW1 'Marinekorps Flandern', Marine Infantry servicemen who used 'M' registration numbers.  'Marinekorps Flandern' were the Naval Corps of Imperial German Kriegsmarine 1914-18 operating in coastal area of Flanders: canals, bridges, locks and ports (Belgium/Holland).

 

Car on left has widow's peak radiator header tank and is wide enough for only a single person which suggest a circa 1914 Wanderer Pupchen W3 Tourer Tandem seating/doors 1286cc made in Chemnitz. 

 

Car at at back in middle has most of the identifiable bits hidden but we think from the thin edged veed radiator and distinctive drooping sides windscreen is probably a circa 1915 Opel 8'25 Tourer.

 

The car on right has oval badge proud off a veed header tank, small flat radiator, high gas lights on double stalks with a high headlamp link bar, adds up to a circa 1916 Audi 18’45 Tourer.'
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Excellent! I wasn't sure about the Navy because the caps should have a ribbon with "S.M.S -----", the name of their ship. Marine Infantry makes much more sense because the uniforms aren't exactly what I'd expect German sailors to be wearing. It was the officer's cap badge that tipped me off because the the German Navy used a rondel surrounded by a wreath and topped with a crown...Army officers had a much simpler device - usually two rondels, one for the German Empire and the other for their state - like Bavaria (which would be blue & white).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It constantly amazes me the knowledge of minutiae known to the people here. Ask half the kids under forty today who won WWII and they have no clue. The world sure has been dumbed down to the extent that I have very little hope for it.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, edinmass said:

It constantly amazes me the knowledge of minutiae known to the people here. Ask half the kids under forty today who won WWII and they have no clue. The world sure has been dumbed down to the extent that I have very little hope for it.

 

I have been lucky to have made a few contacts, who have contacts with some very knowledgeable people into quite obscure stuff.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...