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I just stumbled across this while trying to find the listing for the 1926 "Buick" from another thread - safe to say this guy has had enough of the 1% that really annoy the rest of us....

 

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cowl-shell-1924-27-Buick-1924-1925-1926-1927-GM-Hot-Rat-Rod/154387626737?hash=item23f2383af1:g:taYAAOSw9CdgWq5c

 

1%ers Disclaimer
And no one percenters, no, I don't mean the rich 1% you hear about on the news, the other end of the spectrum 1%... What I mean is, 99% of eBayers are intelligent, reasonable, level headed, swap meet, flea market, estate sale, thrift shop, 2nd hand, trade show, antique mall, restoration, bargain hunting loving shoppers who appreciate the value as much as the hunt and the experience; while at the same time being able to artfully balance that with the realization that the item they are buying is used, old and may have idiosyncrasies to match, and they not only appreciate that, but embrace it as part of the items individual character and charm!
 
The one percent, on the other hand, are the biggest cheapskates that can be, and yet they somehow think eBay is Macie's (or in the case of most the items I sell, the factory dealership), and after low balling you, will moan and cry about any and every real or perceived thing they can find because they do not have the discerning wisdom to read between the lines of the obvious reality in the listing, because every little thing has to be spelled out for them, and if its not they will accuse you as a seller of being dishonest because they don't have the intelligence to understand the unstated obvious.  
 
So...if you are a one percenter, this is for you.
The item is as pictured and described, but it may be between 30 and 80+ years old and may look like the came out of Oscar the Grouches residence, being dusty/dirty, perhaps even having Charlotte's web inside, feasting on dead flies. They probably came from abandoned vehicles in ungodly locations, which means, they were left to the elements and rarely moved, so sun fading, wind chapping and who knows what else may have occurred. When they were moved, they were drug by chains and tow straps, or pushed by tractors(with a tire between them if they were careful) by tired dirty farmers who just wanted to get the vehicle out of their way. So by purchasing, the buyer acknowledges he has received pictures of all items, has seen they are rusty, dented, dinged, pitted, peeling, fading, cracking, torn, deteriorated, smelly, dirty, bug and web infested used parts off of old vehicles that were abandoned to the elements and may even have the afore mentioned damage/rust/etc. that may not have been visible as with personal inspection, however, buyer has inspected pictures to their satisfaction, calculated their fitment and application, and has negotiated prices on these parts. No returns, guarantees, warrantees, charge backs, or refunds have been expressed or implied. All said, the buyer realizes if I'm selling it, its nothing short of a miracle the item being purchased made it this far! 
Are we clear?
So no whiners!
 
 
Furthermore, I am not Sax 5th Ave, Nordstrom, Macie's, JC Penny's, Sears, Napa, Auto Zone, the local car dealership, or even Amezon (yep eBay is so fearful of Amezon now, that as a seller, I cant even mention the word Amezon spelled correctly or they will flag the listing, not allowing me to list it until changing it...so from hence forth, if I sell a necklace I got as a gift from an Amezon woman, when on an expedition in the Amezon Rain Forest, while canoeing down the Amezon River, in a canoe I got from a local Amezon resident who probably bought the canoe off Amezon...I will have to misspell it!! Really? eBay are you that afraid of Amezon that you have to banish the word from listings? Not even allowing the mere word to be mentioned!!!?? But back to my original rant...) which means your item will not come with a card, a bow, ribbon, tissue paper, pillow box, or even a new box...for your purchase, I will not be going to the UPS store to buy a new $4 box, I will be rummaging through the 20x20 room devoted to storing boxes upstairs in my metal grinding dirty, weld smoky, primer sanding dusty, paint overspray shop where I restore cars(and anything else I can find that is old and cool), the boxes will have been used to ship items at the very least once, but more than likely they will have been used so many times to ship that if they had frequent flier miles they would have earned a free trip around the world. Also, if its a corrugated box its fair game, which means the boxes may be old beer/wine/liquor boxes(from coping with the 1%ers), oil boxes, or from misc small appliances/tools; and may have been previously used to store parts, pack tools, or even as a temporary table to hold items during the primer/paint process of automotive restoration. Which means, if the boxes still somewhat resemble a rectangle, no matter their painted color, or previous use, they are fair game to ship your item. The same goes for packaging material, I will not be going to Upscale Mail to purchase new packing peanuts for $3, which means for packaging material you can expect, depending on the item shipped and my current packaging supply; old crumpled Harbor Freight tools ads, news paper, construction materials packaging, including but not limited to, cardboard, paper, plastic, plastic bags, old broken styrofoam from tool packaging, empty water bottles, my old sweaty T shirts, old insulation, straw bales, tumbleweeds, dandelion fluff, or anything else I deem acceptable by my discernment to reasonably get the item to you in one piece, through the shippers "drop ship" attitude.        
 
Now I proudly affront the 1%ers with the spirit of a puffed chested
Weird Al Yankovic singing Superhero eBay Pooowwwweeerrrr Seelllleeerrrr!
Fighting for reasonableness & discernment in purchasing old junque' for all!
         
          '(*_*)'
  ~~<(P)>
                _/ \_
 
 
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4 hours ago, 3macboys said:

read between the lines of the obvious reality in the listing, because every little thing has to be spelled out for them

Well, there's likely the problem.

 

I can tell you from experience, I buy (used to, not anymore) a lot of antique steam related items in ''good used condition'', I would get it and it either needed serious repair or it had obvious damage that was purposely hidden in the pictures. I'm not saying you're guilty of that, but when aspects of an item that would substantially devalue it are clearly missing from the item description and pictures, don't blame the buyer for objecting.

 

I got so fed up, I don't buy anything off of ebay anymore. The best was a ships clock and all the pictures were taken straight on of the face. It was a real good buy, I received it and the whole case was gone, it was just a face bezel and movement, no case.

 

Ron

 

I know I sound like one of those troublesome buyers, I usually wound up eating it because I didn't want to go through the hassle of returning it and I can repair about anything.

 

Here are a few more for instances:

 

Stanley fuel automatic housing, someone had opened it up and tried to bore it out for a larger spring, blew the boring bar right through the side of the casting. It was from Australia and didn't want to pay the return shipping of about 70 dollars. Seller hid that in the pictures.

 

Lunkenheimer steam whistle (about $300) someone had repaired the valve seat with bondo, worked on air, would have never worked with steam, I was able to re-machine the seat.

 

Those little Neverout sidelamps, I had several of them, they are made from thin brass and fragile, I received one and someone rammed it in small box and it looked like a football, needless to say the lamp was badly damaged, I used it for parts. The font, glass etc.

 

One was a brass bollard off of an antique boat, someone removed it (stole it) with a hack saw? They sawed right through the base of it on an angle, hid that in the pictures, I brazed it up and repaired.

 

Penberthy injector "in working condition", parts were missing out of the inside, converging nozzle etc. luckily I had spare parts to fix it.

 

I had many instances similar to the above, finally I tossed in the towel on Ebay.

 

 

 

 

 

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I have always said to use the 80/20 rule. 

 

80% of the persons out there are reasonable, no problem.  20% want to complain no matter the circumstance. 

 

If you do anything for the 20%, 80% of the 20% will be satisfied or somewhat satisfied. 

 

It is the 20% of the 20% that no matter what you do they will always be unhappy and their mission in life is to make everyone around them and who they meet miserable and unhappy.  That is the 4% of the population. 

 

Matt's statement that 1% is low.  I concur.

 

 

1 hour ago, Matt Harwood said:

I think his 1% figure is way low.

 

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1 hour ago, Larry Schramm said:

I have always said to use the 80/20 rule

You forgot the most frustrating part of that rule - 20% of the people take up 80% of your time 

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4 hours ago, Matt Harwood said:

I think his 1% figure is way low.

Amen times a lot....

 

 

I owned retail video stores in the 1980s.  80 percent of customers were fine, deal with them and move on.  10 percent were somewhat of a pain,  but with money showing I’d get over it.  5 percent were a real pain, money barely overcame the effort.  The last 5 percent, I’d offer to drive them to a competitors store and introduce them to the owner.

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Just to add to the wording that Locomobile extracted from the rant:

 

" ...they don't have the intelligence to understand the unstated obvious."

 

I offer for sale this 1944 Zoopermobile with full description of its condition except for "the unstated obvious".  Buyer beware!

 

Cheers,

Grog

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8 hours ago, capngrog said:

Just to add to the wording that Locomobile extracted from the rant:

 

" ...they don't have the intelligence to understand the unstated obvious."

 

I offer for sale this 1944 Zoopermobile with full description of its condition except for "the unstated obvious".  Buyer beware!

 

Cheers,

Grog

For about ten years I purchased steam related antique things that were oftentimes rare. As a buyer, you don't have time for an extensive back and forth dialogue prior to purchase, someone else will buy the item. Early on with the feedback system, sellers and buyers were very cautious as to how they conducted transactions. The last few years after Ebay altered the feedback ranking, it got really bad with both parties, buyers pulling all sorts of crap on sellers. Buying a good item, returning a bad item for a refund etc. Ebay is simply no good anymore for the buyer and definitely bad for the seller. I heard their seller fees are now 12%? And 3% to PayPal, and they hold the money? Just use Craigslist.

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CL has dropped a lot, guess people selling a $10k car are bothered by a $5 fee. Facebook Marketplace and Bring a Trailer seem to be the hot spots now.

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That is one of the reasons I have been going to HERSHEY since 1968. I can see, touch and fondle everything I purchase and if I don't like it, I simply put it down. No packaging, shipping cost, insurance and trips to the USPS or UPS and keeping my fingers crossed that I will ever receive my purchase.

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I have not had any eBay problems all year... I NOW REFUSE 1000% TO SELL ON A "PLATFORM" THAT DOES NOT HAVE MY INTERESTS.

 

THE PROBLEM IS WITH EBAY.... Even after plowing down to a real person they will side with the buyer and refund the buyer shipping fees both ways.  I'm a former advertising artist and I take studio quality photos, 500 watts of bright light every photo, and closeups galore.   My advertisement showed the rust, and said zero returns but KAREN was worried the rust would give her a medical problem.  I was selling metal wreath frames with surface rust LOL.

 

20 years of selling and Pfttttt no way no more.  For the record my sell thru rate was in the neighborhood of $45 per item.  

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