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Dodge Brothers Flatbed, 1929, how get info?


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Dear friends!
In our country, Moldova, a fine example of preserved history appeared - a pickup truck Dodge Brothers, 1929. The car is perfectly restored and characterizes the era of rapid technical development of the automotive industry. This is the first historic truck in our country. But it is very difficult for me to get information about the technical characteristics, since this is no longer the Graham Brothers and Chrysler.
Can anyone know how to decipher the vin code BT1J111111K57CE and what are the technical characteristics here?

Regards, Vita

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Nice truck.

This is an “E” Series Dodge Brothers similar to mine.

It was shipped over as a chassis and cowl and then a custom cab and bed were added.

The “H” on the engine designates this as a DA-6.

The vin number you show was added as it entered your country.

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Have you located the frame number yet? Or can you tell us the wheelbase?


Should be on the drivers side outer rail behind the front axle. 

 

H107-881 would have been produced after July 1929 more than likely...

If the DA engine (H code) is original then it should technically be a 1930 model year truck, although it may have been titled a  1929 at one  point.

 

I know someone painted 1 1/2 ton model but I never assume so here  are the possibilities.

Your wheelbase and frame number will tell us the model. 

If wheelbase is 130" it's a DA130

If wb is 133 then it's a DA133

If wb is 140 it's a DA140

If wb is 150 it's a DA150 (if it's truly a 1 1/2 ton  I'd bet it's this model)

If wb is 165 (doubt it from the photos) then it's a DA165

 

 

 

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Friends, thank you very much! I measured with a tape measure - wheelbase 3.80 meters, which corresponds to WB 150. And yes, it was build in 1930-1931.

There is also an identification number - column 6.

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And where can I find out how many of these trucks have been produced in total?

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I have “Build Cards” for two Dodge Bros “E” series trucks. The “E” series trucks are verified by the frame number.

Question is how a truck is classified by a year.

First is shown my current operating truck. The H 79 code number is a lower sequence with a date of 8-17-29. ALSO The year registered is 1929 as noted on my registration. This would be a 1929 series “E” truck.

 

Second is shown my parts truck.The H 88 code number is a higher sequence with a date of 4-11-30. ALSO The year registered is 1931 as noted on my registration. This would be a 1931 series “E” truck.

 

FYI these are truck DA-6 engines. The motor # is located the front side of the engine because the exhaust down header is on the rear of the engine. Passenger cars had down header on the front of the engine so the engine # is on the rear side.

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8 hours ago, vitavita said:

And where can I find out how many of these trucks have been produced in total?

 

No one has published anything conclusive but I've studied it for the past few years and came up with the following data for "1930 model year units built from July 1 1929 to June 30 1930"

 

I'm sure some will argue with these totals but I welcome any corrections if proper documentation is put forth. 

Several other source materials were used to compare numbers such as, Wards Automotive Yearbooks, Automotive Statistical Issues, Branham's Auto Reference and Dodge truck parts books, Ross Roy data etc.

 

 

The following are the serial number ranges for 1930 Stockton, Evansville and Detroit built Dodge trucks.

PB = Parts List Book and BH = Branham’s Auto Reference

Stockton

Started with S114220 PB & BH

Ended with S116044 PB & BH

= 1,824 Stockton model units built for 1930 (according to Chrysler model units ran from July 1 1929 to June 30 1930)

*No Buses*

 

Evansville

Started with E146442 PB & BH

Ended with E151049 PB & BH

= 4,607 Evansville units built in 1930

 

17,134 Detroit plant (all models excluding Merchant Express totals). I believe your chassis was built in Detroit then shipped to an "Assembly Plant". Your frame would have been assembled around Sept 1929 is my best guess. 

4,607 Evansville plant (all models, excluding Merchant Express)

1,824 Stockton plant (no Merchant Express and no buses)

4,304 Merchant Express all built at Detroit plant

 

Summary:

THE TOTAL TRUCK UNITS PRODUCED BY CHRYSLER UNDER THE DODGE BROTHERS NAME

IN 1930 WAS = 27,869.

 

I believe 21 models were  available 

 

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11 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said:

 

No one has published anything conclusive but I've studied it for the past few years and came up with the following data for "1930 model year units built from July 1 1929 to June 30 1930"

 

I'm sure some will argue with these totals but I welcome any corrections if proper documentation is put forth. 

Several other source materials were used to compare numbers such as, Wards Automotive Yearbooks, Automotive Statistical Issues, Branham's Auto Reference and Dodge truck parts books, Ross Roy data etc.

 

 

The following are the serial number ranges for 1930 Stockton, Evansville and Detroit built Dodge trucks.

PB = Parts List Book and BH = Branham’s Auto Reference

Stockton

Started with S114220 PB & BH

Ended with S116044 PB & BH

= 1,824 Stockton model units built for 1930 (according to Chrysler model units ran from July 1 1929 to June 30 1930)

*No Buses*

 

Evansville

Started with E146442 PB & BH

Ended with E151049 PB & BH

= 4,607 Evansville units built in 1930

 

17,134 Detroit plant (all models excluding Merchant Express totals). I believe your chassis was built in Detroit then shipped to an "Assembly Plant". Your frame would have been assembled around Sept 1929 is my best guess. 

4,607 Evansville plant (all models, excluding Merchant Express)

1,824 Stockton plant (no Merchant Express and no buses)

4,304 Merchant Express all built at Detroit plant

 

Summary:

THE TOTAL TRUCK UNITS PRODUCED BY CHRYSLER UNDER THE DODGE BROTHERS NAME

IN 1930 WAS = 27,869.

 

I believe 21 models were  available 

 

Nothing for Canadian production?

 

Craig

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Nothing specific to the Dodge Brothers name but here's some of what I found. Keep in mind these totals were from a different time period than my "model year" research above. As I mentioned previously, model research for Dodge was from July 1, 1929 to June 30, 1930. 

 

These figures below were for the calendar year compiled mostly from Wards and Automotive Industries.

Edit: another source used was the Facts and Figures of the Automobile Industry Jan 1931 edition that had totals for prior year (1930) put out by the NACC (National Automobile Chamber of Commerce).

 

Total for Canada produced trucks 28,750 (15,712 were exported - all makers included)

 

Total for all trucks produced in US = 571,241 (85,701 were exported - all makers included)

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