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We are all older, Did you get the shot ????

 

I made the vaccine appointment .... I was on hold forever....

I finally got through, and went to the vaccine site....

 

I was on line for FIVE Hours.... I finally got to the front of the line....

And, lo and behold, NO Tequila, NO Jack Daniels..... I LEFT !!!!!!!

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In our state they have a list of dates that detail when your age comes up and the counties do the work.

I got on my county website and was in line and shot up the third day after I was old enough. Didn't even have to get out of the car.

Hope the second dose goes as easily.

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I'm not planning to get the shot, aka vaccine. I don't trust what our government is pushing. They ran this thing thru too fast to know what if any side effects may be associated with it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just don't trust it. During this entire thing, I was only out of work for 2 weeks and that's only because the auto makers were closed to making new cars. (I am what they call essential). The only benefit from this is while a lot of my friends were signing up for unemployment and making $900.00 per week, I was actually working and making around $750.00 per week. Only in America !

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The wife and I have had both doses of the vaccine. We got them for two reasons. 1) We've had two family friends die of COVID, one 60, the other 34.      2) My wife's disorder gives her an 11% survival rate if she gets it. She got the vaccine for herself, I got it for her. No side effects to speak of, though after the second dose we had a strong urge to buy Microsoft stock. Weird.😂

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Wife I have had both shots, no side effects other than a mildly sore arm for a day. Got them at Bristol Dragway, 30 minutes from when we pulled off the highway till we were pulling out including a 15 minute (really 20 I checked) to be sure we were ok. Second shot took 50 minutes from when we pulled in till we pulled back on the highway. Never had to get out of the car. I measured how long the loops were for when they were busy and they had 1.7 miles of space for a line after we pulled off the highway. The first week or so they had lines all the way out and down the side of the highway.

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4 hours ago, bdc said:

For anyone who didn't get the shot (not a vaccine, its essentially gene-therapy). Here's some info that big pharma & media doesn't want you to know. Sadly I know more people who died from the "vaccine" than who died of covid.

 

https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

 

Facebook says not to believe this because there is an inaccuracy in it,    but they won't say what.

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On 3/7/2021 at 2:43 PM, Morgansdad said:

I'm not planning to get the shot, aka vaccine. I don't trust what our government is pushing. They ran this thing thru too fast to know what if any side effects may be associated with it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just don't trust it. During this entire thing, I was only out of work for 2 weeks and that's only because the auto makers were closed to making new cars. (I am what they call essential). The only benefit from this is while a lot of my friends were signing up for unemployment and making $900.00 per week, I was actually working and making around $750.00 per week. Only in America !

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My politics are somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, that said, I took my shots. Simple fact, the most benefit to mankind in modern medicine is vaccination..........much more important than antibiotics, modern surgery, ect, ect,ect. 

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37 minutes ago, Bleach said:

With the flu you still have a better than 99% chance of recovering in most cases. You have a higher chance of developing blood clots with any of the shots. Those clots can lead to strokes and heart attacks.

Actually this is not the flu, and for those of us over 65 the death rate has been higher than 1%.  So far the death rate from blood clots for vaccinated has been around one in a million.  Both my wife (Factor 5) and myself (SVD) have blood clotting conditions and yes we have had our Covid-19 vaccinations both for ourselves and for our community.  

6 minutes ago, edinmass said:

My politics are somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, that said, I took my shots. Simple fact, the most benefit to mankind in modern medicine is vaccination..........much more important than antibiotics, modern surgery, ect, ect,ect. 

This has nothing to do with politics, it is simply common sense and health decisions, some people make good ones others not so much.  Bad decisions are not a badge of honour in most universes. 

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Yes, my wife and I got both Pfizer shots.  Slight headache and tired for one day after the second one.  Several friends and younger relatives (daughter & granddaughters both got the WuFlu.  They were all extremely sick for almost 2 weeks, but recovered.  With our advancing age and other potentially complicating medical conditions, getting the shots was a no-brainer. 

 

No, we don't eat hot dogs or McNuggets either.  And we still wear masks most everywhere we go to lessen the chance of spreading the disease as even though we now believe we are protected, we realize others around us choose not to be.

 

Now that I'm protected, I'm ready for Hershey.  Bring it on.

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 Can someone say today for 100% certainty that there will be a Hershey flea market in 2021 in PA? I am sure anyone who wants to be vaccinated will be by then. If not, the vaccine is not giving us the protection as advertised. I have had the vaccine.

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Let's just keep the first post by the thread starter. I initially missed the spirit and intention of the original post and got caught up with the replies.

We can all feel quite strongly on either side of this issue. I have no problem with deleting my posts and avoid any potential banning.

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4 hours ago, hwellens said:

 Can someone say today for 100% certainty that there will be a Hershey flea market in 2021 in PA? I am sure anyone who wants to be vaccinated will be by then. If not, the vaccine is not giving us the protection as advertised. I have had the vaccine.

I'm really looking forward to Hershey 2021, I have my hotel booked.  My one concern at this point is that a large majority of attendees are vaccinated so we all protect each other. IMO this is not a big ask and as I stated earlier it is not political, it is more moral.

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I know this thread is well meaning,  but there are lots of places not on a car discussion board to talk health and politics.

 

It is only going to cause problems.

 

There are more than a few guys on here that I enjoy talking cars with but when the discussion strays it goes badly.

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IMO this thread is in the Humor & Interest section of the site.  Gatherings both small and large are a big part of our hobby, so anything to do with them is on target as a subject.  Providing information without personal attacks is what this forum is all about

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Got my first dose last week. I am a bit younger and finally qualified in my state. Made an appt. over the computer, picked a date and time. Showed up 5 minutes before my time which was 10:08 am. Walked into the building by 10:07 I had my shot. Wait 15 min in the next room and BAM, it was done. I was a bit more tired than usual and went to bed about an hr or so earlier that night. My arm was sore the next day. Other than that nothing. My wife went in the same time. She was about the same as me.  2 weeks until our next shot. I cant wait.  I too, am not 100% sure of the effectiveness, but can only hope for the best.

 

This past nov I got a flu shot for the first time. This past winter is the first in about 5 yrs I have not been bed ridden sick. 

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Before the polio vaccines came out in the mid-50s, summer was a scary season.  A family might send a healthy child out to play after breakfast, have the kid feel bad at lunch, and be crippled by the end of the week.  The vaccines were like a miracle from god; they were greeted with overpowering joy.  Yes, there were mistakes.  One bad batch GAVE kids polio.  But overall, those vaccines were a boon to mankind.  And still are.

 

I was born in 1936.  I got polio in 1943; a mild case, but it left me with a somewhat atrophied left leg and buttock.  I was very lucky.  You will never, EVER hear me bad-mouth a vaccine.

 

Gil Fitzhugh, Morristown, NJ

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If there was ever a topic that should be locked and deleted it is this one.

 

Matt,  how long were those vaccines in development before released to the public?

 

"A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution."

 

Link
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timeline

 

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Vaccines are a known science. They all work pretty much the same way. Vaccines work by conditioning your body's own defenses to notice and attack a specific virus. They aren't mysterious hazardous chemicals that are somehow floating around in you forever and "cleaning" your blood and interacting with the natural chemicals in your body. Vaccines like the one for Covid don't cause long-term damage--if you don't get sick at first with the disease the vaccine is intended to prevent, there is only a tiny fraction of a percent chance that anything will happen after that (other than the virus will mutate and the vaccine will no longer be effective against it). It won't cause harmful side-effects some day in the distant future on any significant level. It's simply teaching your body how to fight the disease. Yes, there will surely be outliers, but there are outliers who get sick when they take Flintstones vitamins, too. The preponderance of evidence suggests that the Covid vaccine is no more dangerous than any other vaccine you've already taken.

 

Yes, the development was accelerated but that's because there were enormous amounts of money being shoveled at it with multiple agencies and pharmaceutical companies working on it simultaneously. There was more money spent in a shorter period of time on Covid than any other disease, ever. More has been spent on Covid than on HIV since it was discovered 40 years ago. That's how the development window was compressed. Additionally, there are now tens of millions (hundreds of millions?) of people who have been vaccinated using the known vaccines. If there was going to be a statistically significant side-effect common to this vaccine, we'd surely have seen it by now. Vaccines are at their most dangerous when they are first applied, not years later. "Long term effects" are usually from prolonged exposure to something, not a one time dose. It's like saying that touching a hot iron can make your fingers burn two years later. That's just not how it works.

 

Vaccines are familiar and just because the disease being fought is new, the tools are not. A screwdriver still works on a modern Bugatti even though its technology is way beyond a Model T. There is no correlation between vaccines and autism and the risk of side-effects from a vaccine is smaller than the risk of side-effects from a Whopper.

 

My only goal is to assure people that vaccines are safe. Yes, technically there are things we don't know, but that sample is A LOT smaller than the number of things we DO know. The people who make claims about autism and other horrors as a result, or suggest that ambiguities are hiding significant dangers are using pseudo-science, coincidence, fear, and their gut feelings rather than actual research and data. Of course anything can happen and given a big enough sample size, it probably will. But one car crash does not mean driving your car to work is a particularly dangerous activity. Hell, they have tens of thousands of car crashes every year, yet we all get back in our cars and go out on the road. This shouldn't be a thing that divides us, yet here we are.

 

Let me ask you one other question: would you worry about the vaccine's long-term effects if it was, say, Ebola ripping through the world and liquefying everyone's internals? Or would you get that injection as soon as you possibly could so your brain doesn't leak out through your ear holes? Just because this disease isn't particularly dangerous to you doesn't mean it's not worth working together to wipe it out. I'm not worried about it either, but my 83-year-old father is, my 81-year-old step-father is, my 76-year-old mother is, and, well, I love them enough to not want to make them sick because of all the people I interact with every day, any one of whom might be an asymptomatic carrier. Hell, I could be! It's not about me being scared of the disease, it's about me caring about those around me, including you guys whom I expect to see in person at Hershey. That's what a civilized society does: work together for the common good.

 

But hey, what do I know? My sister is only an immunologist at Stanford. It's not like she addressed my concerns and questions when all this started.

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