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Hello everyone,

I have a 1913 White Motor Truck. Originally it has been a police wagon, but was converted to a hose car for Fire Department in 1916, engine was changed too, because I found 1916 stamp on the engine. Maybe somebody could help ant tell me what engine  is it? I cannot find any information about it.

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Welcome Mindaugas, White Vehicles are all the rage around here since a member bought a 1917 White.  I can't help specifically with your question about your engine, but I expect others will chime in shortly with specifics.  

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There's a EWhite truck group website--classicwhitetrucks.com---but the page comes up blank---there,re lots of White truck people around; you might try other old-truck sites...

A period catalog describe White truck engines by letter designation---GEC, GN, GO8/GR and GR---you might check yours for any such cast, stamped/embossed letters and numbers and add them to your inquiry...

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Ross will chime in and comment. I’m the guy with the 1917 White car. I have only a basic understanding of the trucks..........best guess.........looks like a 1914-1915 White 30 hp engine. So it would either be a car chassis with commercial body, or a half ton truck. Post more photos of the rear end, front end, and over all. Three speed or four? 

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Ed, you're close. I googled White engines from 1915 down to 1913 and found this photo of a 1913 white speedster with the same engine. 14 and 15 are just a bit different...

 

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Oldford.......problem with any White vehicle is they just did running changes........I have seen no less than four different engines in 1915 White vehicles.........and there were significant in line alterations during the run. Carburetors, magnetos, single or dual plug, transmissions...........when it comes to White........there is almost nothing “black and white”.............everything is more of a gray area. Some car and truck items were used among different platforms.

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Interesting! Here is a photo of the car that has the engine I used to help identify the engine in the original post.... Bought in Lawton, Iowa. I saw the engine and did not look at the other photos... 😄😄

 

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My period catalogs do a poor job of identifying  which White engine was in particular models, but FWIW, my clearest is a 36 engine parts catalog...

Valves---GEC motor listed in five mpdels for 1919 only; no sharing with other engines...(valve table BEGINS with 1919 models)...

Piston assembly---GEC and GM motors are listed for eight or more models 1919-22, with no way to tell which had which (this table also begins with 1919 models)...

Bearings---GE, GEC motors are listed for four models 1917-20, again no way to differentiate (this table lists models as early as 1912)...

REMEMBER these not complete---parts co's only listed what moved enough to justify stocking, listing...

There appears to've been an engine series---GE, GEB,GEC, GED and GEG are listed, all 41/4 bores...

White used letter designations up into the mid-late 20s, when they switched to numbers: 1A, 2A etc engines...

If no White Gurus chime in here, do try the old-truck sites; tons of Whire information is out there, and this's primarily an auto site......

 

 

 

 

 

 

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