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13 minutes ago, JFranklin said:

I think those brackets had some type of cushioning material, rubber, leather, or canvas, to keep the irons from damage. I have some with reminants of rubber.

 

Yeah the parts book pictures a rubber lining. It also says that for 1918, the model 44, 45, and 49 had these and they were different for all 3. Mine is the right one for the 49.

 

I adjusted the board that I use to protect the glass window from banging on the spare tire, so the top comes lower and the whole thing fits now. I need one for the other side now!!

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Morgan, 

    The Convertible top boot is used to keep the glass off the back tire.  The clamps were not normally left installed outside the car.  To fold the top you needed to install the clamps and then use the top boot.  I think that is why these are usually missing.  Loose parts.      Hugh    

 

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It varies by year.  Some car companies and models made the top clamps permanent to stay outside the body, others had them removable for stowing.   Agreed that it was more likely for a teens car to have them permanently affixed, but in the later years you do not see them as frequently on the cars in photos with the tops up.     

Attached are factory photos and a photo of Leif Holmbergs original top on his 1925 Buick.  Now you have gypsy curtains (the term used for the side pieces of the top).  Notice how if you do not unscrew these when the top is up, it really stretches the top fabric and can create a place for water to enter the car.   On Leif's car I can see the wood behind the canvas and the canvas is fatigued here.  Hugh

 

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DSCF5684.thumb.JPG.be3c85c58b5022550705cb0dc18b8ad6.JPG  My 1925-45 with clamps and the boot I had made for my Standard.     

1140579663_1925-55(1024x797).jpg.834e8c59fe0b9a6d0ec9f04e12df804d.jpg Period photo of 1925-55 with clamps and boot.

When we were at the AACA fall meetat Gettysburg, we watched some fellows putting down the top of their Cole V8. DSCF8428.thumb.JPG.08380419ba2d70da8bcfd825f88059e4.JPG

I had to stop them because they were attempting to place the folded top in the clamps without undoing the snaps of the gypsy sides and folding them in.

 

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Morgan, 

    That looks great folded.  Hopefully you can find another clamp on Ebay.  There are many varieties with subtle differences.  They do have rubber or leather in them to protect the paint.  These are the instructions for folding the top.  The gypsy curtains are supposed to be folded in and tucked behind the tension straps prior to folding the top.  It is also important to pull the top back and then tuck it in.  The top pads need to be kept out of the top sockets as much as possible so that the stack can be latched.  This is from the 1926 Buick export manual.  Interesting that I have not seen these instruction in any US document, and it is not in the 1925 export manual.   The one man operation folding it while walking over the front seat is also a neat trick and has to be done very carefully.  I also put pads over the rear doors because it would be easy to drop the rear of the top onto the tops of the doors during the folding process. Notice all the snaps and the 2 straps in the top boot to hold the rear glass.

 

Hugh

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6 hours ago, Rod Wise said:

Larry,   I,m surprised you have the large clamps on your 25-45.  I thought the small rests were used by 1925.

Rod:

The 1924 Master Book of Parts I have call out the clamps #183824 R and #183825 L"Top Holders" for both the 1925 Master and Standard touring.

TOP REST

#18294 rest for Burbank Cloth tops.... Req 2.

 I have had to make new "reat seat iron studs" for both cars. As they were missing. I had to shorten the Hidem on the Standard since when they put the incorrect style top on in the 1960s tacked over the stud location.

 When I first got Remley he had 7/16" all thread and a piece of rubber hose as rests.

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