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I have been looking for top sockets for my D/B for along time First of the week a AACA member told of a gentleman in Texas that the parts I needed. Contacted him yes I have them he set the price and the shipping cost I ask for a photo of the parts. He also wanted me to pay by some kind of electronic payment plane. I told him I was old school check or cash. Ok he sent me a address in Mississippi. Still no pictures no phone numbers to call him told me he was having trouble with the pictures. What do you think   ???? Thanks.  Mike  Ps last email he said if it was not what I wanted he would refund my money. 

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Sounds like a scam. With todays camera filled world he should be able to get you some photos. Tell him to have a friend take a photo with a phone and send it to your phone. Tell him you are afraid of being scammed and would like to speak to him. All reasonable requests in todays world.

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Buyer beware. I would hold out until I at least saw some pics. This has been brought up here before but not much of an excuse in this day and age for not having them, Its pretty easy to text a pic. 

As far as payment, I dont do electronic payments usually send a M.O.  Last part I bought the guy had me do a Walmart transfer. I suppose its like a Western Union, though I have never done those. You pay the amount at the service counter, say which state it goes to. The recipient can go into any store in that state with the auth. code and gets paid within about an hour. Seems like a pretty good way to go.

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I would want a photo just to be sure they are the right parts to begin with.  Electronic payments are fine.  No different than a money order,  except the person getting it knows they have it.  Now with something like pay pal if you don't do it friend to friend,  you have some recourse if you never get the part and he doesn't provide tracking.  Western Union or Walmart,  once you send the money it's gone,  so no recourse there.  The problem is the few shady people make it bad for the other 90+ % out there that are honest.  I have bought several pieces of literature by sending the money then getting the stuff later (sometimes without knowing exactly what I was getting)  and only been burned twice.  One of those was even in person though so it's all possible.  

I will say I have had people having faith in me and just sent me stuff to make an offer on without sending them any money up front.   I could have just never paid for it,  but I made an offer and what do you know mroe followed and even friends of their's contacted me to buy their stuff. 

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Ask for a certain angle photo of the parts. If the seller cannot provide that particular photo, move on and forget about the parts as it IS a scam.

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It's a scam. If they asked for Western Union or some other marginal money-moving service, it's always a scam. Pretending to not know how to internet or take pictures = scam. Refund guarantee = scam.

 

He doesn't have what you need. Don't let your desire for the parts overrule your better judgement.

 

Tell him to send the parts UPS COD and see what happens.

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I too am for sending pictures.  BUT......be sure to have the person put something like the todays newspaper with the part in the picture.  Be sure it has a current date.  Or maybe have him put a Coke can in the picture upside down on one side of part like right,left,top,bottom.

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I can honestly say I have never been scammed out of a part bought online. I try to get stuff from people I either know or 'know of'. I have bought a lot of stuff from forum members from a couple that I frequent. I agree about recourse with a Walmart payment. The one I sent was to a guy I did not know, but he had a great rep on a Pontiac forum. Transaction went without a hitch. One just needs to be diligent and again, buyer beware. I have passed on some 'good deals' or things that I thought I needed on ebay just because I dont know the seller. I have bought a few things that way, but my rule of thumb with an unknown is not to spend any more than I can afford to lose. May not be the right way of thinking but has always worked for me.

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My grandfather always said if you want to find out about someone, give them the chance to steal something small.

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The situation outlined in the original post is a classic scam. A hallmark of it is someone telling you he knows who has it, please call my friend at (xxx) xxx-xxxx or whatever. Wanting Western Union or some other transfer service that has no recourse is another. Having a payment address in a location that is not the same as the parts is something that comes up time and time again. The number of excuses that have to be made up to justify that last one must be huge.

 

Another common thing said is "I'm working on an Oil Rig, and the parts are at home so I can't take more pictures", though I think people are finally getting wise about that excuse.

 

This particular scam, as described in the original post, is rampant right now in every online vehicle forum. Lots of good advice in the thread so far, however don't use Western Union or some similar money transfer service.

 

 

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My immediate thought on reading the OP was "its a scam!" And it very much most likely is.

However, I find myself in an odd place. I do have problems with sending pictures, in spite of the fact that I earned my living for thirty years in cutting edge technology. If a picture is on my computer? No problem. I post pictures here and on other sites occasionally, IF they are on my computer. My old digital camera? From the 1990s? Worked great! The upload to the computer was well designed, had an easy setup to begin with, and offered good choices every time I uploaded from my camera. My wife and I liked it so much, after about two years we bought another one just like it so I could take one on my excursions and she could have on as well if she wanted it. After over fifteen years, one of them failed. About two years later, the other one quit. So we bought a couple new cameras. The upload program was totally automatic. NO setup options. NO upload choices.  Ever had to hunt through a couple hundred folders and programs to find your pictures? I once found a few of them in the word processing program. And what made it even worse, was it automatically erased the photos from the camera when uploaded so I couldn't reload them if something didn't work right.

I came away from thirty years in high tech contracting with a very low tolerance for bad programming.

So, now would you like to hear about my cell phone?

 

Some people do have trouble sending photos. However, that aside, along with the other things already mentioned? It sounds like a scam.

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Thanks all of you guys I will have to n pass on the parts but I will sleep knowing you all supported me. But not going to mention to my daughter this hat she was right.  

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Been using digital cameras for years. Had Canon cameras since the '60s. Now have three Canon ELPH SD780is just do what I want and cheap on eBay. Cave canem.

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Not being able to send pictures when almost everyone has a phone that can take photos and email them is a pretty thin excuse.  I wouldn't trust it.  Run away!

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Not being able to send pictures when almost everyone has a phone that can take photos and email them is a pretty thin excuse.  I wouldn't trust it.  Run away!

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What was the guys email, I just received a message with the same MO, 0 record, in Mississippi, all the usual crap.

Reported it and Peter sent him a private message to call him.  Peter told him that until he calls him he will consider him a spammer.

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11 hours ago, Mikefit said:

First of the week a AACA member told of a gentleman in Texas that the parts I needed

Ok, you saved yourself from getting ripped off, but a part of this still bugs me - you state it was an "AACA Member" who told you about the guy who tried to scam you?  First, I'm wondering how you determined he was actually an AACA member?  I'll bet it was all a part of the hoax, but if you have a name, it's easy enough to check up on that.

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Probably an AACA Forum member. It wouldn't be the first time. The moderators here are wise to this sort of crap, and usually jump all over it. One still must be vigilant. Someone will be the first target.

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Almost all scammers are new members who have made only a few posts or no posts at all. Most of their activity is via Private Messages. That should be the first red flag that somethings not right.

 

If you suspect a member of the forum is trying to scam you, PM a moderator immediately and let them know.  Moderators have a few tools they can use to help determine if they are legit.

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We should keep in mind that, as car people, we're a lot more 'tuned-in' to scams than the bulk of the population.

 

A few months ago a friend of mine asked my advice about a Craigslist ad for an RV van he was considering.  He sent me the response he got...inherited the vehicle from a relative that died, in the Army in Alaska so can't communicate, eBay Motors will ship it for free (!!!), photos looked like they were lifted from a dealer ad,  yada, yada.  I told him to run the other way and luckily he did.

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19 hours ago, ted sweet said:

buying from an aaca member doesnt guarantee you wont get scammed

 

Works both ways.

I have mailed out a few parts over these forums that I never got paid for.

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Only bad case I had was someone said they needed their 69 Grand Prix hood tach repaired quickly for a show so sent them only one I had (GP only had a special filter) with understanding they would send one back. They returned a GTO (no blue filter). When I complained they essentially said "tough".

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