Karl Hamson Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Is there any way to clean the white powder off besides elbow grease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Are the castings in place on something, removed, how large? they could be the size of a baseball or the size of an oil pan, more information as to what has to be cleaned and if so will the surface then be polished ? Does the object have a lot of small areas that are hard to get into or are they flat or curved areas large enough to easily work on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Mothers polish and a Dremel..........care must be used.........and take your time. Don’t ask how I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Hamson Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 Crankcase for a 29 Hudson. Large and on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Vapor hone........clean it with steam first. Will look like new. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush Mechanic Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I blasted mine with fine glass beads, at low air pressure, (around 50 psi), then hand rubbed the finish with scotch-brite. They cleaned up very nicely, and the scotch-brite removes the flat look. The very fine swirls in the finish may not be for everyone . It looks good to me, but I'm not into showing the cars. Maybe try different methods on a scrap casting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61polara Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 WD-40 does a good job as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Watch this video........ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintchry Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Wow, I like that!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Vapor honing looks pretty sweet but expensive! I saw a blip on the hemmings website where a guy built a homemade sonic washer. Looked pretty simple and has me intrigued. He attached a 1/4 sheet sander to a tub filled with CLR/water. Put the parts in the solution and let it vibrate for a couple of hours. They came out looking brand new. He also made a tumbler the same way, same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I started using it when my neighbor bought one......It's my go to way to deal with most parts today. First a hot water based safety kleen unit, then the vapor hone. It is easier on the parts than sand or glass...........and the cabinet is easy to see......the window doesn't get ruined like sand or glass......and NO DUST in the shop........you can place the unit in a machine shop or engine building area with no down side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Ed, can you use it on rusty steel parts as well, like one would use a media blast cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Yes......it's a bit slower. For post war stuff where parts availability is unlimited sand blasting is still best.(faster) Vapor hone is a slower process.......better control, and sometimes it will not get everything 100 percent. It won't ruin anything, and thats 99 percent of the game in pre war. On aluminum its fantastic. Motorcycle stuff it's a must. It's great for small hardware. I use it on all the engine accessories.....carburetors, water pumps, distributors..............I like it a lot. The unit I use is just like a regular blast cabinet......a foot trigger and a nozzle .............the unit in the video is more for large production shops.....works the same. Edited December 20, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryankazmer Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The cleaner using a sander is not an ultrasonic cleaner. The sander is stirring a part in a solvent bath, it's most like a part washer. An ultrasonic cleaner operates at about 40,000 Hz. Vapor honing has been used in the tooling industry for a long time - it is as effective as described. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) I agree with the above. Only new thing is they are available for small shops and home use now.......but still not cheap yet..........I expect in a few years the numbers will cut in half on the vapor hone cabinets. Edited December 20, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I had surprisingly good results cleaning a corroded aluminum transmission case with my soda blaster. This particular part had sat outdoors for years and had mud and corrosion, and I figured I had nothing to lose. Cleaned up amazingly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 15 hours ago, edinmass said: Vapor hone........clean it with steam first. Will look like new. Holy smokes, Ed. I had never heard of this. Looks fantastic. I wonder how it would work for cast aluminum intake manifolds and aluminum alternators of the muscle car era. Restorers tend to dislike these items when they have been glass bead blasted. Some folks use walnut shells, and claim better results. But the goal is to make these rough-cast-unpolished aluminum components look like they did when new, and it is a real art to achieve that appearance by blasting. Maybe vapor honing might be a viable alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, lump said: I wonder how it would work for cast aluminum intake manifolds and aluminum alternators of the muscle car era. That's exactly what it gets used for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) On 12/20/2020 at 2:09 AM, Bush Mechanic said: I blasted mine with fine glass beads, at low air pressure, (around 50 psi), then hand rubbed the finish with scotch-brite. They cleaned up very nicely, and the scotch-brite removes the flat look. The very fine swirls in the finish may not be for everyone . It looks good to me, but I'm not into showing the cars. Maybe try different methods on a scrap casting. I have used the plastic media on aluminum manifolds as well as alternators housing and it worked well, not overly aggressive, but is a slow process. Edited December 21, 2020 by John348 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush Mechanic Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 hours ago, John348 said: I have used the plastic media on aluminum manifolds as well as alternators housing and it worked well, not overly aggressive, but is a slow process. John, is that granulated plastic ? It sounds like something I need. I looked for walnut shell, but that is not available here in Tasmania, and quite expensive shipped from the mainland. Ed's vapor blast looks like a good thing, if it becomes available at hobby price level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Bush Mechanic said: John, is that granulated plastic ? It sounds like something I need. I looked for walnut shell, but that is not available here in Tasmania, and quite expensive shipped from the mainland. Ed's vapor blast looks like a good thing, if it becomes available at hobby price level. Yes it is, I will look for the exact information of the product tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryankazmer Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 there are multiple types of plastic blasting media. I'm not familiar with choosing the correct type for a given job, but check before buying. By analogy, talcum powder and carborundum grit are both mineral media, but perform very differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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