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On 12/23/2020 at 4:52 PM, rjp said:

Yes the dash is all mahogany, And thank you. Looks like it will fun. I do need to have the wood spokes worked on. I would like to get the clock for it also, working or not

I have an 8 day rim wind clock the would be about right for it but it is in rough shape. let me know if you still need one.

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The Canadian car was said to have a much nicer finish on it than the American Buick. In 17 through 21 there wasn`t a 4 cylinder made in Canada it was replaced by the little 6 the Northway engine the 62|& 63 series. There are about a dozen of these floating around Canada in various states of finish... I have a 1919 HA63. not finished

The  Reynolds Museum in Wataskawin Alberta has literature in their library. That is where I go my copies of Mclaughlin information

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1 hour ago, Dodge1934 said:

The Canadian car was said to have a much nicer finish on it than the American Buick. In 17 through 21 there wasn`t a 4 cylinder made in Canada it was replaced by the little 6 the Northway engine the 62|& 63 series. There are about a dozen of these floating around Canada in various states of finish... I have a 1919 HA63. not finished

The  Reynolds Museum in Wataskawin Alberta has literature in their library. That is where I go my copies of Mclaughlin information

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UMmmm... The D and E series 4 cylinder were made in Canada as far as I know in 17 and 18.

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30 minutes ago, Oldtech said:

UMmmm... The D and E series 4 cylinder were made in Canada as far as I know in 17 and 18.

I have seen a 1916 mclaughlin and know of several 1918 s with Northway engines. the contract with The US Buick folks for the 4 cylinder engine ran out in 2016 they didn`t have a cheap engine available so they went with the Northway engine for a few year.  There is a whole story about this in my files and there was a book called the Driving Force that documents a lot of thisas well.

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That is interesting Does the Northway engine look different  than the picture that I. posted earlier?  The number on mine is different also. CP 1660. I was able to get a clock , Thanks  mine is a 6 cyl. Any info is great.

Roger,   How would a person go about getting info from the museum?

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Here is a related article on a Northway engine. Note the location of the water outlet, no jack shaft running the water pump/distributor/starter/generator as on your Buick engine. Also the Northway has a removable cylinder head not a jugged engine like your Buick. 
 

Nothing wrong with a Northway, it’s a good engine but I’m 100% certain yours is a Buick. 

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3 hours ago, rjp said:

ya mine is for sure a buick, all inclosed 

I know far less about the Big six Buick  but That could be a year thing as a lot of the mmakers were starting to enclose ther rocker arm assemblies about 1920. I have part of a cover off a later Northway but never seen one in a car.

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Well I don't profess to be the History professor here but my understanding is that the chassis came from Buick but McLaughlin built the bodies, pretty well copies of a Buick but with a few enhancements. 

This is the plate off mine.   I would think... that the "light six" would be after the 4 cylinders so 1919-21.  The years weren't cut and dried back then. I believe they started the D series in 1916 and changed to E for 1918.

Re Numbers:  There is a frame number ( read Buick), a 4 digit body number ( McLaughlin,) and the serial number plate which is neither, on the floorboard. The engine number is also on the plate. The first 3 digits are in the brightwork, but if you look carefully, there are 3 more digits in the black.  Canadian cars were licensed by this number on the floorboards.

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Very interesitng, I got some books from Dean today: 1920 Reference book for 1920 and Price list for 19 and 20. Both Buick books Flint Michigan.  There is alot the same parts but alot of little things diff. to mine .I had a hole for a clock , not showed it the book, lots of things not in this year of books for a K45 as far as the pictures go. If Built in Canada would that be the difference? Tags, radiator,motermetor, and dust covers all say McLaughlin. What else should I look at? I dont see any other numbers on the tag. Would there be any other stamping. The previous Said he knew the car foe over 40 yrs and is sure that its all original. Maybe diff. motor? How would one tell? Is there any lists of years with engine and body numbers for Canada or usa?

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11 hours ago, rjp said:

... The previous Said he knew the car foe over 40 yrs and is sure that its all original. Maybe diff. motor? How would one tell? Is there any lists of years with engine and body numbers for Canada or usa?

 

If the previous owner said the motor was 1918 I can tell you for sure it's not.

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My top bows are finished very nicely , wood with metal hardware that is nickled .The saddles look like most one sees on ebay. The spar tire carrier is a 3 point looking, one on each side with leather straps and a bottom one that could be big enough for two tires, maybe or a big lock.

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2 hours ago, rjp said:

Alright thats good I just want the car to be all 1920 if it is. Is there numbers on the trany and rear end?

Does your car have the floorboard plate like my picture?  It has the engine number on it.  On mine there are numbers on the Transmission and Diff but I  don't know that anyone has that detailed a list.  The numbers on mine are 6 digits and stamped on a flat area.  It has to be clean to find them. 

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At this point in time for Buick production the various assemblies that made up the chassis (front axle, rear axle, engine, and transmission) all had a serial number assigned to them.  I do not know when Buick stopped doing this, but they did it for quite some time.  If you go to the thread AND THEN THERE WERE THREE, you will see a photo of the FINISHING REPORT sheet that was found in the rear door of our 1916 D-45.  Gary Martin found this sheet when he re-upholstered the car for us.  It lists the serial numbers that I spoke about.  This document proves that we have a 'Numbers Matching' automobile as everyone talks about.  As I stated in my thread, I like to think that this document is the 'Birth Certificate' for this Buick.

 

Terry Wiegand

South Hutchinson, Kansas

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rjp.

  That is a beautiful  1920  K45 McLaughlin/Buick you have.   I have a 1920  K44 Buick, which is the roadster.   Mechanicaly  the same as yours.  There were no changes between 1919 and 1920.   From the photo,s you posted,  the carburetor on your car has been changed,  as the original was a  Marvel with a vacume tank. I can not see a vacume tank so am assuming the previous owner connected an electric fuel pump.  In Australia the Buick running gear was imported by different companys and the bodies were built in Aust.  My understanding is that the same was the case in Canada.  So there will be differences between the McLaughlin and US Buicks,  but the engine and running gear are the same.  

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On 1/2/2021 at 9:35 AM, rjp said:

Hoping and looking for the correct carb. Marvel E3.  Thanks

Roger

Attached are the marvel carbs I have in varsious states 3 have 1"3/8 throat the others have 1 1/8 " throat

For the big s6 I believe you need the 1 3/8size.... The tags do not show a model numberthat I can find.... I can get more pics of one or 2 if you like

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On the side of the steel casting is a 10-XX or 10-xxx number. For the 1918 D-35, that number will be either 10-17 or 10-79.   For all your others, see if they match the list below.  I noticed that you have one that is different and is for a later model.    In the photo is a 10-11.  The .3 on the end is the 3rd casting run.    Hugh

year                 model            steel #                               brass float bowl number  

1916 to 1917 D-45               11-504      

1916               D-45              10-6

1917                D-45             10-30

1917-1918      D-35 & E35  10-17 or 10-79  

1918-1921 Buick 6             10-24 (1918) and 10-26 (H, K, and 1921)

1922                                    10-47  

1923                                    10-26 (6 cyl)  10-65 (1923 and 1924 4 cyl)

1924                                     10-77 (6 cyl)                   65-1

1925                                    10-11 (Standard)   10-87 (Master)         65-10 (Standard)

1926-26-78                       10-103 (Standard) 10-105 ( Master)      65-26 (Standard)

 

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Going by Hugh is looks like I need the 10-11.  Looks like new screws in the carb, do you know anything about it?, Ill see if any pictures in the parts book  Thanks

Roger

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Roger ,

   You should change the title of this thread.  The title says 1918 not 1920.  Then a data plate was posted that says D35.  A D35 is a 1917 4 cylinder.    I think that is what threw me off.   I have made some edit changes to my postings.

 

If your engine is a 1920 6 cylinder, it should have a 10-26 carburetor body as Rod pointed out.    Hugh

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19 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said:

On the side of the steel casting is a 10-XX or 10-xxx number. For the 1918 D-35, that number will be either 10-17 or 10-79.   For all your others, see if they match the list below.  I noticed that you have one that is different and is for a later model.    In the photo is a 10-11.  The .3 on the end is the 3rd casting run.    Hugh

year                 model            steel #                               brass float bowl number  

1916 to 1917 D-45               11-504      

1916               D-45              10-6

1917                D-45             10-30

1917-1918      D-35 & E35  10-17 or 10-79  

1918-1921 Buick 6             10-24 (1918) and 10-26 (H, K, and 1921)

1922                                    10-47  

1923                                    10-26 (6 cyl)  10-65 (1923 and 1924 4 cyl)

1924                                     10-77 (6 cyl)                   65-1

1925                                    10-11 (Standard)   10-87 (Master)         65-10 (Standard)

1926-26-78                       10-103 (Standard) 10-105 ( Master)      65-26 (Standard)

 

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Yours is quite different from any of mine.... mine are all from Canada.... non have numbers like that but they do have casting numbers and  some have a stamped number on a plate. I wonder how many locations made Marvel carb or if they all came out of the same factory.... lots of differences for sure The two pictures below are two different carbs but from the same general era20210117_120104.thumb.jpg.f04964939025c3ef613eaad91c327fd4.jpg20210117_120104.thumb.jpg.f04964939025c3ef613eaad91c327fd4.jpg

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