Mark Gregory Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 First glimpse inside a sunken cargo ship: 400ft anchor chain slices through the Golden Ray to reveal 4,200 Hyundai cars not seen since the vessel capsized last September off Brunswick, Georgia The Golden Ray capsized near the Port of Brunswick in September 2019, with 4,000 cars onboard Engineers are finally demolishing the boat, using an anchor chain to saw it into eight sections A giant floating crane is lifting up parts of the dismantled ship before they will be taken to Gulf coast https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9010779/Anchor-chain-slices-sunken-cargo-ship-reveal-4-200-Hyundai-cars-inside.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossp Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Every single one of those cars will be available on Craigslist: “no low ball offers, I know what I got.” 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Jesus, an anchor chain can slice through a ship and everything in it like a laser? Holy crap. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said: Jesus, an anchor chain can slice through a ship and everything in it like a laser? Holy crap. I'm calling BS on that too. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64avanti Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, 1937hd45 said: I'm calling BS on that too. Bob Nope. Absolutely true. Look it up. There are videos of the chain in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: I'm calling BS on that too. Bob Me Three! It is too smooth of an edge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 What parts COULD be salvageable from those cars? Wheels? Glass (if it's intact)? Would that even be permissible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Seats! Never sat on recently washed! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said: What parts COULD be salvageable from those cars? Wheels? Glass (if it's intact)? Would that even be permissible? Is it being salvaged for the scrap value of the metal? Edited December 3, 2020 by John348 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, John348 said: Is it being salvaged for the scrap value of the metal? That's the ship scraping business! 1 hour ago, John348 said: Would that even be permissible? Depends. Who owns it? Typically the insurance company that paid off. Off topic, but they are in court right now about who owns the radio equipment on the Titanic, as one group wants to remove it for display in a museum.🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Interesting, I knew they used cables to cut up ships, never knew they used chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgreen Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studemax Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 You guys need glasses if you think that looks like it was cut with a laser. It looks like they use a giant can opener. The edges are so jagged it's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 "who owns the radio equipment on the Titanic" - I thought at the time the Marconi company leased radio systems used on ships and never gave up ownership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKB1MCV Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The same cutting procedure was used a few years ago on a boxboat that turned turtle in Europe, the technology isn't new. The chain uses embedded diamond cutters to cut the hull/cargo. Titanic's Marconi gear was leased to the shipping company, but its probably moot anyway because there may not be much left to salvage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Scrap metal salvage is only a by product of the ships removal. By US law, no ship can be abandoned in territorial waters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yes, but who registers a cruise or container ship in the US? Panama Liberia Marshall Islands Are all more registered ships than the US. https://www.offshore-energy.biz/liberia-confirmed-as-second-largest-ship-registry-in-the-world/ As to the Marconi gear on the Titanic, it is local news for us, as a Virginia judge decided what to do: http://www.arrl.org/news/federal-judge-okays-retrieval-of-titanic-marconi-wireless-equipment 4 hours ago, JimKB1MCV said: Titanic's Marconi gear was leased to the shipping company, but its probably moot anyway because there may not be much left to salvage. OK, it does have a little salt water deterioration, but not like it had oxygen at that depth. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02/28/metro/photo-gallery-explore-titanics-wireless-rooms-where-desperate-messages-were-sent-ships-final-moments/ I just clicked "close" when it asked to log in, and got to see the pictures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Kingsley Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Why does that one gray suv look perfectly fine (minus the crushing) and the others don't? That one doesn't look like it's been underwater at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpfarrell Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Billy Kingsley said: Why does that one gray suv look perfectly fine (minus the crushing) and the others don't? That one doesn't look like it's been underwater at all. I think it was above the waterline. Look at the white one in the top picture, it looks like the same white one just below and to the left of the gray SUV. Then, still in the top picture, look to the left side of the image where you can see the top deck of the boat. Looks like the boat was laying on its left side with a crud line that runs right down the middle. The crud was underwater. The gray SUV would have been above the water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Billy, the ship didn't capsize per say, it lust went over onto it's side in fairly shallow water. About half of its superstructure wasn't in the water. The cars on the starboard side of the ship slid down onto the port side cars as it went over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yet another reason not to buy a Hyundai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Ran when sunk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Any do it yourselfers trying to cut a steel wheelbarrow in half with a length of dog chain? How is it going? Bob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1. I too think thats incredible that they are cutting that thing with a chain, who knew? 2. Never realized how they 'stacked/stored' the cars in those ships. I would be claustrophobic driving cars in and out of one of those things! I saw some ytube videos of a ship graveyard in Asia someplace, may have been India, where they just beach the ships then start ripping them apart for scrap. The work looked very crude and dangerous, but hey they were getting it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Cole Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, TAKerry said: 1. I too think thats incredible that they are cutting that thing with a chain, who knew? 2. Never realized how they 'stacked/stored' the cars in those ships. I would be claustrophobic driving cars in and out of one of those things! I saw some ytube videos of a ship graveyard in Asia someplace, may have been India, where they just beach the ships then start ripping them apart for scrap. The work looked very crude and dangerous, but hey they were getting it done! Doesn't look like it from the pictures, but the overheads would have to be at least 6' to accommodate the SUVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Kingsley Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 That makes perfect sense, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4000 Hyundais?? Losses are expected to be in the twelves of dollars 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Reed Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I want to see a CARFAX report on all those cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 A friend takes damaged cars from X automobile manufacturing company and then cleans them up and cleans them out and ... (including they can get an interior and dash kit among other kits) to send the cars then over to Countries who no restrictions on salvage and .... - mainly flood damage, tornado damage, theft damage, vandalism, and .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan G Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 6 hours ago, John_Mereness said: A friend takes damaged cars from X automobile manufacturing company and then cleans them up and cleans them out and ... (including they can get an interior and dash kit among other kits) to send the cars then over to Countries who no restrictions on salvage and .... - mainly flood damage, tornado damage, theft damage, vandalism, and .... I've heard of companies that export totaled vehicles and have body shops aboard the ship. I guess in some cases they can have the car fixed (good enough) by the time they reach port. Airbags? Seat belt pretensioners? Active grille shutter? Who needs 'em! Patch them up and ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Kingsley Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 For many people just having something that runs is far more important than if all the bells and whistles work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 " just having something that runs is far more important than if all the bells and whistles work" maybe so but have been blessed in always being able to acquire "more". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Bryan G said: I've heard of companies that export totaled vehicles and have body shops aboard the ship. I guess in some cases they can have the car fixed (good enough) by the time they reach port. Airbags? Seat belt pretensioners? Active grille shutter? Who needs 'em! Patch them up and ride. Apparently that happened after Sandy hit the NY Metro Area. If the salt water touched the lowest part of the rotors or brake drums the insurance adjusters totalled the cars. The title was then marked "for salvage only due to flood damage" For weeks there were semi's leaving here with late model cars with visible water lines up to the windows. The word was they were sold overseas where the US paperwork does not matter. The paperwork is only needed to get it out of the US 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 That is not an anchor chain they are cutting it with. Why not call it a ( giant's ) necklace. Rocks can be cut with cotton string saturated with an abrasive slurry and it looks polished when done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 15 hours ago, Bryan G said: I've heard of companies that export totaled vehicles and have body shops aboard the ship. I guess in some cases they can have the car fixed (good enough) by the time they reach port. Airbags? Seat belt pretensioners? Active grille shutter? Who needs 'em! Patch them up and ride. Manufacturers do it in US to send to countries where they do not have to offer same type of disclosures as in US - I assume they sell them as a demonstrator or .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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