pete milanowski Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I have a 1963 Riviera. All the interior lights go off when I shut the door except the rear sail lights. Can anyone tell me why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Hi Pete, Try rotating your headlight switch to turn them off. Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 If rotating the headlight switch doesn't turn them off then the problem is in the door jamb switches. Your door jamb switches each have three wires going to them . On of the wires to each door jamb switch controls the rear sail panel lights. It could be that one of those two wires is going to ground. Going to ground is what completes the circuit. Pull the switches from the door jamb and see if the sail panel lights go out. If they do, there's your problem. If your switch(es) is bad, Gord Wolfgang can repair them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 This is hard to explain, rotating the headlight switch to off turns all interior lights off but they do not come on with door open. With the lights turned on with the headlight switch they go out when door is closed except for rear sail lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegart Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Check the switch on the back of console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 It sounds like someone has replaced the original door jamb switches. Pull one (or both) and post a picture of what you find. There are three separate circuits. Turning the headlight switch all the way left (?) will turn on the sail panel lights. The courtesy light switch above the radio turns on the light above the glove box door and the lights on the side of the console. The switch on the back of the console turns on the light on the back of the console. 12V runs directly to each bulb. The switch is on the ground side. That's the only way all lights will come on when the doors are opened AND individual lights can be turned on when the doors are shut. ANY wire that has a bare spot in it can be grounded and turn on the lights on that circuit. No one interior switch can turn on all the interior lights unless someone has replaced the door jam switches with something besides an OE switch. Be patient, it's not something magic. Take each door jamb switch out and pull all the wires off it. One at a time ground the wire and see what happens. Chances are when you pull the culprit wire, the sail panel light will go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 hours ago, pete milanowski said: This is hard to explain, rotating the headlight switch to off turns all interior lights off but they do not come on with door open. With the lights turned on with the headlight switch they go out when door is closed except for rear sail lights. Pete, Your description of the symptoms is not clear to me but do as Ed says regarding inspecting the door jamb switches. The only way rotating the headlight switch could turn on all the lights is if it is providing a ground to all three circuits. Someone may have spliced the wires together at the door jamb switches. Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Thanks for all the advise. After further investigation I am pretty sure the door jamb switches are my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 I have tried sending an email to Gordon Wolfgang and it does not go thru. I sent to gordon.wolfgang@msdminc.com is this the correct email address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdminc Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Yes that is my email and I have not received anything from you. Nothin in spam and i have received 64 emails from other sources today. My email is working. You can also try gordon.wolfgang@yahoo.com or message me on the forum. Rock On gord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Gordon, I have tried several times to send an email and it will not go thru for some reason! What I need is 2 door jamb switches rebuilt for 63 Riviera. Also need 2 rubber boots if you have them. Where do I go from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdminc Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I will send you a PM Rock On gord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Gordon, I don't have messenger, here is my email address pjmilanowski525@gmail.com thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msdminc Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) It is a private message within this forum. Look up near the top right of this screen for something that looks like an envelope. Every one on this forum has it. Rock On gord Edited November 25, 2020 by msdminc (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Finally received my door jamb switches that Gordon rebuilt for me (took forever for the post office to deliver) and that was my problem. All lights now work as they are suppose to. He does an excellent job! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64RivieraLife Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 So turning on ur headlights turns on ur interior lights while driving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete milanowski Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 yes, they go on and off with door jamb switch, work with the head light switch and the switch on the dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 hours ago, 64RivieraLife said: So turning on ur headlights turns on ur interior lights while driving? Pulling out the headlight switch turns on your headlights and dash lights. Turning the headlight switch dims and brightens the dash lights. Turning the headlight switch until it clicks, will turn on the interior lights. So, yes you can turn on the interior lights hile driving but it takes a concerted effort to do so, but it is not an automatic function of the switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64RivieraLife Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Mines doesnt do any of that lol looks like i have to figure that one out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cannon Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, 64RivieraLife said: Mines doesnt do any of that lol looks like i have to figure that one out Search this forum for a summary of the 3 interior courtesy and map light systems that you have in the car and which switches operate which. The doors turn on all 3. The lights have power all the time (if the fuse is good) and they are looking for a ground (earth). 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XframeFX Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Jim Cannon said: Search this forum for a summary of the 3 interior courtesy and map light systems that you have in the car and which switches operate which. . . . . . . Jim, FYI, that link in your signature block, Jim's 1963 Riviera, no longer works. Edited December 11, 2020 by XframeFX (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cannon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 hours ago, XframeFX said: Jim, FYI, that link in your signature block, Jim's 1963 Riviera, no longer works. Thanks. It appears the www.BuickStreet.com website has been hacked and replaced with garbage text and pages by some Russians. The words on the pages are some copy/paste of Russian stuff that was run through Google Translate to get English. Not my website, not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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