oldIHtruck Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Looking for a solid 1955 Willys Bermuda Hardtop. Thank you. Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Marty, are you familiar with the 1955 Willys cars? Or do you admire their nimble good looks and want one for your collection? People who lived during a particular era may know things that people today don't realize. In 1955, Consumer Reports, based on readers' experiences, gave the '55 Willys an atrocious review. It's probably the worst car review I've ever read in old issues of their magazine. I have that automotive issue. I will be happy to quote from it if you want more insight. Getting the right or wrong car can greatly influence your satisfaction in the hobby. Edited October 13, 2020 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said: In 1955, Consumer Reports, based on readers' experiences, gave the '55 Willys an atrocious review. It's probably the worst car review I've ever read in old issues of their magazine. That would be something to read. Do you remember which month it was? Edited October 14, 2020 by Fossil (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Fossil said: That would be something to read. Do you remember which month it was? I have the magazine in front of me at the moment. The rating of the 1955 Willys is in the May 1955 issue, which is devoted to auto ratings. See pages 233-234. Here is a major excerpt for everyone's interest: "Willys Custom 6, with Hydra-Matic transmission. $1904. ...The particular model chosen to keep the Willys name in the passenger-car field is the Kaiser-engined 4-door sedan introduced last year. The F-head engined Willys 6 sedan-- one of the least gas-eating American cars CU has ever tested--has apparently been dropped. The current engine is larger, heavier, and of older, long-stroke design. It is mounted far forward in the short Willys chassis, where its added weight is ruinous to easy steering and to the excellent handling characteristics Willys once had. The current engine has a very poor frequency-of-repair record; this is fortunately coupled with better than average accessibility....The unit-body- and-frame structure of the Willys is staunch and usually free of rattles...Variability of quality from car to car has plagued the postwar Willys. Resale value has been very low." The car was considered "acceptable," but ranked last (worst) among its group in "estimated overall quality." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Thank you. Sounds like 1954 and older were much better cars. Especially the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I wouldn't put too much stock in that. Some of Consumer Reports choices of the 1980s and 1990s would make great entertainment today. Likely not much different in the 1950s. As for the 1955 Willys engine mentioned, it's just the Kaiser 226, also known as the Continental Red Seal, also known as the Graham Six before the war. Graham ran them with superchargers in the late 30s. Kaiser may have as well after the war. It is 226ci vs what maybe 161ci for the Willys engine? They called the 226 an "older, long stroke design", and admittedly it is dated as a car engine in 1955. You might want that extra torque though if you are going to have a Hydra-Matic behind it, and the car mentioned did. Personally I would much rather have a stick and a Borg Warner overdrive. If I am not mistaken, Willys offered it. I imagine that would be derided as an older design as well, dating from several years before the war. Those engines were used long before and long after 1955 in industrial applications where reliability is greatly valued. Nobody else thought it was a bad engine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bloo said: I wouldn't put too much stock in that. Bloo, I think their reviews are at least interesting to read. I give them credit. While there can always be bias in car reviews, someone who was living at the time, and involved heavily in the subject, likely has a knowledge that we are missing. Their rankings of reliability were (and are) based on the experiences of many readers, which should be more accurate in aggregate than the anecdotal evidence of one or two of our friends and neighbors. Their rating of the 1955 Cadillac was exceedingly complimentary: reliable, economical for its size, very high resale value at that time. Consumer Reports may not be perfect, but people have relied on them, and I've noticed that the most reliable cars thrived while the least reliable cars gradually declined to nothing. Their reviews are interesting, to say the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Drake Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Marty, My dad passed this year and he has a 1955 Willys Bermuda Hardtop in his back yard, needs a full restore. My husband has been tasked with getting rid of his 14 cars that all needing a restore. If your interested let me know. Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Roberta, Tell us what all you have. Post some pictures, lots of enthusiasts visit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huptoy Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 There is a 1955 Willys Bermuda advertised on Fort Myers Craig’s list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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