mikewest Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Lastly a Franklin Service Station with a 1928 on the oil rack. Neat picture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 8:53 PM, PFitz said: I've looked in the two most recent Registers and can't find a listing of any Series 153 "Town Sedan". The only Town Sedans are Series 151. And, the Series 15 Operators manual does not list a "Town Sedan" in Series 153 either, so can't search by body code number. Just some as "Town Cars" - typically a division window limo with a Chauffeur top like Tom Hubbard's. Since the artist drawing Walt posted does not have the typical Town Sedan landau bars, I wonder if the title could be a typo ???? Paul Paul, On page 6 of the series 15 parts manual the company lists the telegraph code for the "153 DeLuxe Town Sedan". Of course we know that just because something is listed in the parts book doesn't make it so and there is no other reference to one. It may have been wishfull thinking that sales would rebound and the depression would magically end. Who knows! Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFitz Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, hook said: Paul, On page 6 of the series 15 parts manual the company lists the telegraph code for the "153 DeLuxe Town Sedan". Of course we know that just because something is listed in the parts book doesn't make it so and there is no other reference to one. It may have been wishfull thinking that sales would rebound and the depression would magically end. Who knows! Bill Possibly. Unlike the 151 Town Sedan that is a hold-over Series 145 body from 1930, the 153 would need a new body. The late 31 production former Adam's 151 Town Sedan has a 145 walker body tag on the driver's side body sill..... but late enough in 31 to have one-piece bumpers. We may never know all the changes that the depression forced the factory to make, before the Bankers forced theirs. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Come on air cooled motor car people take the time to share a photo or image of the era or two. Yes it takes time and effort, but without the trek this year or Hershey where you can see friends and share photos and information here you have the opportunity. Don't grumble if you think you never see anything on Franklins but of a lot of other cars - you can make it happen more if you make an effort as well........................... Here is a Holmes and some other bits and pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Our Franklins were right in heyday of pocket watches. So, naturally we need a watch fob. This one is about 2" across. I think the factory also produced them in silver plate. Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Seaford, Delaware's first car dealership started in 1917 by Tillie Byron (in white shirt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFitz Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Here's a 31, Series 153 Derham Berline limo. Only one known to survive now. It's rumored there is another, but so far, searches have come up empty. This picture was sent to me by A. Adams. I forwarded it to the owner of that only 31 Derham Berline and that lead to 19 years of a relationship with a wonderful women. Franklins can lead to some of life's most marvelous journeys. But that's a story for another day. Paul 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFitz Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Some other points about that Derham Berline. The long survivor, also an originally black car with black wall tires, has the same white double pin stripe along the belt line, and the same real leather, black long cobra grain top. You may have noticed it does not have the battery box door in the running board splash apron. That's because, like some of the 153 Speedsters, it uses a 147 chassis, even though the firewall chassis tag number puts it as a later production 153 Berline with a Series 15 engine. The battery and tool box are reached under the front seat cushion, the cross braces match 147, and so do the passenger side brake line lengths and tee fitting location. Another exception I found out while working on it, is the front grill and hood are actually that of a 151. It sits about a inch lower than the standard 153 hood/grill. The thinking is that was done so that the hood angle better matches the roof angle. You may notice that the Berline in the picture has many of the 1931 accessories that are shown in the 31 accessory catalog. Chrome "speed strips" on the fenders, chrome trim rings around the hood doors, twin horns, and what Walt G calls a "Deco Duck" mascot. 😄 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I have never seen a period photo of an Olympic convertible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Franklin getting down to business, or who put that hole there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFitz Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Good news is,... the radiator wasn't damaged. 😁 Paul 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 11 hours ago, PFitz said: Good news is,... the radiator wasn't damaged. 😁 Paul Yes, and none of that nasty antifreeze was spilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I've posted this elsewhere but it's worth reposting here. This is a circa 1955 photo of my dad's (and later my) 1929 137 7-passenger sedan Unfortunately by the time I bought it back in 2011 it was little more than a parts car. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillDC Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Semi-period picture from one of Dad's high school road trips in his 1919 9B. This is the same car my brother Jim drove on his 9,000+ mile road trip in 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 hours ago, BillDC said: Semi-period picture from one of Dad's high school road trips in his 1919 9B. This is the same car my brother Jim drove on his 9,000+ mile road trip in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I was there in 47, maybe I saw that car. Of course my memory is a little foggy. I was only 3 years old at the time. We lived in Boston. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 The original dustbuster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cornman Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 10/5/2020 at 1:59 PM, hook said: Seaford, Delaware's first car dealership started in 1917 by Tillie Byron (in white shirt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cornman Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Franklin 153 Derham body Sportsman’s Coupe formerly owned by Walt Gosden now located in my garage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cornman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Hook sent me this picture of the latest of the latest in snow removal equipment. I recognize the car in the picture. Believe the picture was created by a prior owner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketofBolts Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Any period images of the 1933 Franklin LWB called the "Banker's Car"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, BucketofBolts said: Any period images of the 1933 Franklin LWB called the "Banker's Car"? The V12? I was in a garage with an owner that had recently bought a 12. He was very happy. I actually told him something he didn't know, which was they came with Auburn two speed rear ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, alsancle said: The V12? I was in a garage with an owner that had recently bought a 12. He was very happy. I actually told him something he didn't know, which was they came with Auburn two speed rear ends. Well close..... Auburn 12 and Franklin 12 cars shared the same rear axle assembly made my Columbia Axle. I dont believe Auburn made any 2 speed axles .Ive had several of them in all 3 configurations. With some updates they are a great accessory. There is a big difference in the 12,8 and 6 cyl axles in size and weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 9:48 PM, Bob Cornman said: Hook sent me this picture of the latest of the latest in snow removal equipment. I recognize the car in the picture. Believe the picture was created by a prior owner. Bob , Ive never seen this image before. At first I didn't think it was your car because the spokes look like chrome but your car is the only one with a courtesy light in the left apron. Maybe if a previous owner did it was it Bill Longley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, mikewest said: Well close..... Auburn 12 and Franklin 12 cars shared the same rear axle assembly made my Columbia Axle. I dont believe Auburn made any 2 speed axles .Ive had several of them in all 3 configurations. With some updates they are a great accessory. There is a big difference in the 12,8 and 6 cyl axles in size and weight. You are right. For some reason I thought Cord owned Columbia like Lycomming, but I think I was wrong about that. The Auburn had the lever on the floor in 32 while the Franklin has a dash switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, alsancle said: You are right. For some reason I thought Cord owned Columbia like Lycomming, but I think I was wrong about that. The Auburn had the lever on the floor in 32 while the Franklin has a dash switch. Close again..... smile.... Auburn had the 2 speed control on the dash and the lever on the floor is to engage or disengage the free wheeling. I removed a 12 Cyl Columbia axle a few summers ago because the man buying the car want the original Franklin rear end assembly . That Franklin the controls were on the floor like a second gear shift assembly but it had been crudely installed about 50 years ago. Also E L Cord may have owned Columbia axle.... I dont remember. But I think so... Edited January 27, 2021 by mikewest (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odat Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 This is a photo that our local club just sent me. My untrained eye thinks 15s. They must have had a tough life as the caption says Great Norther Paper. That means they spent there life on logging roads. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Franklins are tough and they didn't need any of that frozen liquid up in the northern Maine woods! Great picture Dick. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) That's quite a load for a little cross engine. The dog thinks it's a Mack truck. I'm not sure it's a Franklin, so please forgive me. Edited January 28, 2021 by hook (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFitz Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) On 1/19/2021 at 9:48 PM, Bob Cornman said: Hook sent me this picture of the latest of the latest in snow removal equipment. I recognize the car in the picture. Believe the picture was created by a prior owner. Ok, who's the Photoshop wizard of the 137 touring picture on the Club's website in, Pictures by Year of Manufacture section ? Should have removed the guy standing beyond the car seen through the windshield. 😄 Edited January 28, 2021 by PFitz (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Hey everybody. The photo of the car I just posted that looks like a circa 1905 cross engine Franklin loaded with people, what is it? At first glance it looks like a Franklin but, the grill looks to wide, the springing doesn't quite look right and the steering wheel is on the wrong side. What's the tank in front? Also, concerning the steering, the sign on top of the building in the background proves the photo is not flipped. I thought that I'd get comments right away, but, where are all your ideas? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Saw this on Hemming's news letter. These aren't Franklins but, just goes to show you that this lousy gas idea we have today has been around for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cornman Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 This is a photo from a very early Franklin dealer in the Carolinas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFindlay Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 3:19 AM, hook said: the sign on top of the building in the background proves the photo is not flipped. Don't be so sure about that sign on the building. We may be seeing the back side of it. Here is the same photo flipped and enlarged a little. The number on the car behind the Franklin (?) looks like it starts with a 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 There are a few questions still. The hood on the car is wider looking than a Franklin and the rear drive look on the car is strange for a Franklin. Now about your hotel sign theory of "we may be seeing the back side of it". If we were looking at the back side of the hotel letters, the letter R would be reversed. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3makes Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Hook, that car could be a 1905 or '06 Premier. Very similar to cross engine Franklin in appearance, but with a wider hood (engine cover) and grillwork. That cylinder in front is a Presto-Lite gas tank. Edited March 10, 2021 by 3makes additional description (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 First off, I apologize to you PFindlay concerning the photo flip. I think your right about the Hotel. And I think the photo is flipped. Second, I agree with you 3Makes about it being a Premier. Thank you, I think you've solved the question as to what kind of car it is. The Premier started in 1902 in Indianapolis, Indiana with water cooled engines and then went to air cooled. A Premier could be had with either Air cooled or water cooled engines. The company folded in 1926. The Premier started with a sliding gear transmission, shaft drive, and full elliptic springs, quite ahead of its times. Also, the company claimed that the "Oak Leaf" on it's radiator/grill was the first use of an emblem as an automobile trademark. If you look just behind the headlight on the grille, there's some sort of emblem. My information comes from "Standard catalog of American Cars 1805-1942" 3rd addition. Thanks again 3Makes for steering me to the Premier. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 Check the photo of the 1930 series 14 sedan in Europe in the General Discussion area under the thread Period Images to relieve some of the stress. I posted it there because this seems to be a bit sleepy in activity and I have already contributed over 10 photographs here. In that location we may get more viewers to see what a Franklin is and perhaps generate more interest in the make. Anyone have any period photographs to post here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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