gwells 242 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 This Plymouth was restored by Leo Gephart and I bought it at auction in Auburn. It has sidemounts, trunk rack, rumble seat, wind wings and other options. It is a good driver, however, it has been sitting for a while and needs the early hydraulic brakes overhauled plus woken-up from sitting for several years. $28,000 or best offer. Car is located near downtown Atlanta, in the O4W area, if you're familiar with the city. This car has to go to a new owner. Contact Harry at (404) 234-3506. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SparkEE 58 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Is the intake flipped upside down or modified for the downdraft carb? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gwells 242 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 SparkEE, please understand I am posting this info for the seller and what info I provide is all I have. If you wish to have your question addressed, I strongly suggest you give Harry a call, as I don't think he's as computer-centric as many of us are. Link to post Share on other sites
SparkEE 58 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 @gwellsmy apologies, wasn’t paying attention to the fact I was in the “not mine” sub forum 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Yes the intake manifold is flipped...it was originally equiped with a updraft. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,853 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It also looks to be sporting a 1933 Plymouth flying lady radiator cap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SparkEE 58 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 That makes sense, thank you. It’s pretty close to one of the cars I’m after, just a year too early. The four cylinder Plymouth’s are surprisingly powerful little cars. Someone will enjoy this! Link to post Share on other sites
thehandleman 228 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 It should have the Carter BB-1 Carburetor, and Keiser31 (John) is correct it has the 33 plymouth flying lady the 31-32 PA and PB share the shorter stubbier Flying lady good Eye fellows also looks like it does not have the 19" wheel or it has the 32-34 plymouth hubcap with 17" wheel But cannot see close enough on that one. the 1931 had a 58 horsepower four Silverdome and the last year 1932 PB had the 65 horsepower 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 This Plymouth has a PB engine in it...Another note...the car was probably restored in the 60's, 70's and has nitrocellulose lacquer paint on it that is cracking. I have driven this car 4 or 5 thousand miles since I bought it, It is fast and has good acceleration. Also the brakes (which are hydraulic) need a full overhaul. Someone put an overdrive unit in the drive train of which I have never used. Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I am asking 24K...but let's talk Link to post Share on other sites
F&J 781 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 hours ago, HarryJ said: Someone put an overdrive unit in the drive train That should be a very helpful sales feature for finding a new owner who wants an early car that can keep up with traffic without revving the engine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thehandleman 228 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Harry are you sure thats OD ? and not the Free wheeling Unit? Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 There is an original free wheeling unit and an overdrive. Link to post Share on other sites
thehandleman 228 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I have never seen a OD on a original PB just a freewheeling and vac clutch cannot be oem original some one modified car by shortening driveshaft and put a 35-38 chrysler desoto dodge in it Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Here are some more pics... note the freewheeling knob on the dash and the overdrive switch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thehandleman 228 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 We know the 1931-32 had the Freewheeling, the overdrive unit is not factory, so based on having a PB engine in a PA and some modified Overdrive unit that did not come in 1931-32 Plymouths for that matter 33 and 34 Plymouth’s had no Overdrives So I would surmise it was not restored that the car was conditioned at some point, but probably should be sold as a nice Driver, but would never be a Senior winner with a PB engine Good luck with your sale, It still would make super nice fun driver. I know my 1929 U Roadster and My 32 PB Roadster are fun I can do 63 mph with my PB silver dome four banger Cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ben P. 635 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, thehandleman said: We know the 1931-32 had the Freewheeling, the overdrive unit is not factory, so based on having a PB engine in a PA and some modified Overdrive unit that did not come in 1931-32 Plymouths for that matter 33 and 34 Plymouth’s had no Overdrives So I would surmise it was not restored that the car was conditioned at some point, but probably should be sold as a nice Driver, but would never be a Senior winner with a PB engine Good luck with your sale, It still would make super nice fun driver. I know my 1929 U Roadster and My 32 PB Roadster are fun I can do 63 mph with my PB silver dome four banger Cheers Yeah he said it was added before you went off on your one-man argument (which was and still is a common and sought after addition to make these cars more drivable), never claimed it was ready to be a ‘Senior winner’, you’re not interested in it — so what is your beef? These comments are typical on a showfield (whispered behind the owner’s back of course) I suggest you keep them there and off the For Sale ads. This Plymouth and the Lincoln would both have a place in my barn — if I had a barn. Sadly, I do not. The cars are priced right. Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Ben....Thank you for the insight/comments! Link to post Share on other sites
thehandleman 228 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, HarryJ said: There is an original free wheeling unit and an overdrive. I am pointing out the things that the car should or shouldn't have keeping it original, Being I have all the early Roadsters, Harry pointed out that the car had original free wheeling unit and an overdrive Not, that’s all Ben P P Maybe someone who is a newbie should not tell a senior member what I can and cannot say, this is a post and forum which means its open to opinion’s thats all I was pointing out he said it was original.And I said It would make a super driver thats what it is! Again Harry wish you luck with your sales Ben Pack Sand! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ben P. 635 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) On 9/14/2020 at 11:27 AM, HarryJ said: This Plymouth has a PB engine in it...Another note...the car was probably restored in the 60's, 70's and has nitrocellulose lacquer paint on it that is cracking. I have driven this car 4 or 5 thousand miles since I bought it, It is fast and has good acceleration. Also the brakes (which are hydraulic) need a full overhaul. Someone put an overdrive unit in the drive train of which I have never used. thehandleman: You are absolutely correct, this Plymouth will make one super driver. I can understand the confusion, but no, at no point was it said that the overdrive was original. It had already been said that it was added and was later clarified that the freewheeling was original. You also managed to answer a lifelong question I’ve had: What makes bullies tick? From your own words, it’s just an obsession with ‘status’ — real or imagined. That would also explain the bizarre phenomenon of bystanders (most of whom would never bully on their own) joining in and piling on. Again, it’s only for the perception of status. I am shocked by how little there was to it. Ben P. Edited September 18, 2020 by Ben P. Typo (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Harwood 12,268 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 What a lovely little car. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Harwood 12,268 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Looks almost like a 3/4-scale version of this: Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I have lowered the price on this Plymouth to $24,000 Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 $22,000? Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 $21,000? Link to post Share on other sites
jan arnett (2) 194 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 7:47 PM, thehandleman said: We know the 1931-32 had the Freewheeling, the overdrive unit is not factory, so based on having a PB engine in a PA and some modified Overdrive unit that did not come in 1931-32 Plymouths for that matter 33 and 34 Plymouth’s had no Overdrives So I would surmise it was not restored that the car was conditioned at some point, but probably should be sold as a nice Driver, but would never be a Senior winner with a PB engine Good luck with your sale, It still would make super nice fun driver. I know my 1929 U Roadster and My 32 PB Roadster are fun I can do 63 mph with my PB silver dome four banger Cheers I appreciate the comments and insight. How else are we to learn things. I know what is correct on my cars and what is incorrect and I have no problem if someone pointed it out particularly if I would be selling it. Thanks for your knowledge and insight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 The car was restored completely probably in the 60's; with the PB engine installed and the overdrive. It was set up to be a driver in that era; not a national show winner. Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 By the way Jan,....I have better than 70 mph in my PA; and a friend of mine with a restored PB roadster has done in excess of 70 mph also! Link to post Share on other sites
Jim rinehart 1 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I'm interested in your Plymouth is it still for sale Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 This is a solid car; for the enjoyment of the driving experience; although, it could be restored for the show circuit. Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 $20,000? Link to post Share on other sites
HarryJ 24 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 $19,000 Link to post Share on other sites
lump 838 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I grew up in the Southern Ohio chapter of the AACA, in the Dayton, Ohio area, where Leo Gephardt had his shop. There were at least two 31 Plymouth roadsters in our AACA chapter, and as a little kid I often rode in the red one with black fenders, which belonged to Carl Pippenger and his family (Carl & his wife are both deceased now, and their roadster sold long ago). But I also remember the other one, which was yellow. IF I recall correctly, it was owned by "Alan Eby" (not sure of spelling, but the last name was pronounced "Eebee.") Anyway, I THINK I recall hearing grownups chatting about that yellow Plymouth roadster, and I THINK I recall hearing them say that its owner drove it really fast...and that it wasn't EXACTLY original. Maybe it is this same car? I also think there was a boat tailed Plymouth roadster in the area, and I THINK I recall that someone said the body wasn't original. But keep in mind that these memories of mine are strictly vague wisps of recollections. I was not yet old enough to really understand the technical discussions, etc, but just recall the gist of some old discussions at cocktail parties. I'll have to dig through some of my parents' old photo albums from the SOC of AACA, and see what I might find... By the way, seems to me like a great open car for the price!! Link to post Share on other sites
JamesR 1,087 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Boy, these things are really pretty. Like Tex-Riv's old Chevy coupe, this roadster proves that Fords weren't the only attractive affordable vehicles in the 1930's. Link to post Share on other sites
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