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I like to mix up the tires and wheels on my cars every now and then. My 65 has the Buick Rally wheels or what some call road wheels on it. I like them, but am bored. Post pictures of your wheel and tire combos. Stock, custom, doesn't matter, I just want to see all the different combos and ride heights to give my brain some more ideas.

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37 minutes ago, Turbinator said:

Here are several of my restorations of turbines you may find interesting.

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Very nice work, the attention to detail is incredible.

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What's your imagination like?  Not currently on the Riviera but with the 5 on 5 bolt pattern, it's easy to play tire swap with the Roadmaster wagon.  245/45ZR20 tires on Boss wheels. I've yet to try the 7" factory aluminum wheels from the wagon on the Rivieras.

 

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9 hours ago, crowvet said:

I like to mix up the tires and wheels on my cars every now and then. My 65 has the Buick Rally wheels or what some call road wheels on it. I like them, but am bored. Post pictures of your wheel and tire combos. Stock, custom, doesn't matter, I just want to see all the different combos and ride heights to give my brain some more ideas.

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6 hours ago, RivNut said:

What's your imagination like?  Not currently on the Riviera but with the 5 on 5 bolt pattern, it's easy to play tire swap with the Roadmaster wagon.  245/45ZR20 tires on Boss wheels. I've yet to try the 7" factory aluminum wheels from the wagon on the Rivieras.

 

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Ed, seems as though some serious calculations or serious measuring to make sure large tires and wider wheels will fit on first gen Rivieras. Of course, people do put larger tires on the Riv’s just seems harder.

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Hi Guys,

I have only two option at this time.

 

First is my 64 with the 64 Buick Wildcat Rallys (or Road Wheels sometimes called) with BFG Advantage Plus 225/75r15 whitewalls.  Second is my 64 with US Mag Rambler 17 x 7 with 225/60r17 DB Redlines front, 17 x 8 with 255/55r17 DB Redlines rear, also using .250 spacer up front and .875 bolt on spacer (adapter) rear.  Don't really need the rear spacer, but liked the look.  My third which is not  doable yet ($$$) is to run the rally wheels (6" width) up front with DB Redlines and rally wheels (7"width) in the rear with DB Redlines.  The .875 spacer is needed for the 7" rally wheels  on the rear.

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20 hours ago, RivNut said:

What's your imagination like?  Not currently on the Riviera but with the 5 on 5 bolt pattern, it's easy to play tire swap with the Roadmaster wagon.  245/45ZR20 tires on Boss wheels. I've yet to try the 7" factory aluminum wheels from the wagon on the Rivieras.

 

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Ed,

I have and my 7" rallys did not fit on the rear and probably will not fit on the front.  Because of the increased back space.  That is why the .875 spacer.

 

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37 minutes ago, awk409ak said:

Ed,

I have and my 7" rallys did not fit on the rear and probably will not fit on the front.  Because of the increased back space.  That is why the .875 spacer.

 

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If you look at the specs of the 71 - 78 wheels, there is an additional 1/2" of back spacing in them.  I would have to imagine that because the 6" 895 code wheels on my Roadmaster wagon fit well and the original Roadmaster wheels are 7", there is no way that they would fit on a first generation Riviera.  The Boss wheels have the offset and back spacing to work but they are tight in the wheel wells on the Riviera.  I get some inner fender rub on the Roadmaster with the Boss wheels when backing out of my driveway and the drive-over curb when I have to back out at full lock.  The guy across the street thinks the best place to park his truck is directly across from my driveway.  😡

 

These are the 15 x 7 aluminum wheels with the 5 on 5 bolt pattern that came stock on the Roadmaster. Can anyone imagine what they would look like on a 1st generation Riviera?

 

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Anyone out there do Photoshop?

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Hi Ed,

In a previous  post in July 2019, we discuss wheel fitment when I tried to put Wildcat station wagon rally wheels on the rear of the 64 Riv.  I had wheel drum interference.  The wheel was hitting the od of the drum before the mounting surface.  The station wagon rally wheel being 7" has a 4 5/16 BS, while a stock 6" rally wheel is 3 7/16 BS.  That was the reason for my .875 spacer.

 

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Stock wire caps with 2” dropped springs. I also want a couple sets to change things up from time to time. 

 

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On 8/12/2020 at 6:16 PM, awk409ak said:

Hi Guys,

I have only two option at this time.

 

First is my 64 with the 64 Buick Wildcat Rallys (or Road Wheels sometimes called) with BFG Advantage Plus 225/75r15 whitewalls.  Second is my 64 with US Mag Rambler 17 x 7 with 225/60r17 DB Redlines front, 17 x 8 with 255/55r17 DB Redlines rear, also using .250 spacer up front and .875 bolt on spacer (adapter) rear.  Don't really need the rear spacer, but liked the look.  My third which is not  doable yet ($$$) is to run the rally wheels (6" width) up front with DB Redlines and rally wheels (7"width) in the rear with DB Redlines.  The .875 spacer is needed for the 7" rally wheels  on the rear.

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Kinda liking the gray in the rally wheels.

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Ok, I've seen redlines on Seafoam's 65 that's a green car. What does everyone think of those tires on a white car like mine? Good, bad, or indifferent? May go that route next time around.

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It depends on how close to accurate you want your car to be.  I think that red lines on a white car would look outstanding, but red line tires were not an option on the 1965, you had to wait a year.  Please believe that I'm saying there's anything wrong with Winston's car. It's just a matter of preference.

 

Ray Knott had a 65 Gran Sport that had a red pinstripe along a body line. Not stock, but it looked really good. Red line tires would have set off his pinstripe. Especially if his interior was red.  If your car has some color interior that would clash with red, like blue, I wouldn't do it. MHO. Ed

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9 hours ago, kreed said:

My ‘72 .

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I like that... That combo looks great on that car. I also agree on the vinyl top.

 

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Also had a single red pinstripe put on at that show - guy was amazing . One dip of the brush did a quarter panel , one dip did the door and fender, etc.  . Told me " don't you wish your hands were as steady as mine ? "  Agreed ! 

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23 hours ago, crowvet said:

Kinda liking the gray in the rally wheels.

Crowvet,

Those are the 64 Buick Wildcat rally wheels.  The center part was a silver color not the later charcoal color and had a Wildcat cap.  They were originally a black background with the chrome cat.  Mine are faded.  Have not been able to find new stickers to replace these.

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I made these caps from 66 - 70 ribbed caps and some aluminium centers I found on Ebay then mounted on some code 895 wheels from a 71 - 78.  No tape, no glue, no flimsy plastic. They are mounted on my 94 Roadmaster wagon. (I was excited about everthing going together and didn't wash the tires and wheels before taking the picture, my bad.) 

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On 8/14/2020 at 6:50 PM, jframe said:

Ok, I've seen redlines on Seafoam's 65 that's a green car. What does everyone think of those tires on a white car like mine? Good, bad, or indifferent? May go that route next time around.

Mark, redlines are for GM hotrods like Camaro, souped up Chevelles, and the like from the sixties. The Riviera has plenty of muscle for a personal luxury car  as was designed. The tires and wheels you put on are for what you like. Your Riviera is your chariot so to speak. Buick doesn't own the car, nor anyone but you. Do to suit yourself. ( you've heard that before) Now let me get out of the Pulpit.

 

I like 1" to 11/2" white walls on a 63-65 Riviera. Now Ive seen triple white walls ( thin on outside with a wider white wall on the inside ) on an aqua color Riviera here on the east coast and the tires look spectacular on that model Riviera. The wheel covers I like MOST are cast aluminum Turbines with appropriate emblem for the year car. HOWEVER, I've seen semi custom first gen Rivieras with subdued colors and beautiful paint job with black walls and custom designed wheels that are outstanding. If you wanted blue lines on your car and tastefully done they would look great. The problem and or challenge is we are trying to personalize one of the eight best cars Buick ever built. In my opinion only, It's hard to add to a classic design and make it better. It is done and anyone can personalize their Riviera to their own liking. One of my pals indicated the American Classic Auburn Radial Bias look 710 R 15 I have looked like regular modern radial tires. The gent went on to mention I'm changing the character of my car while all along he has a vinyl top on his Riviera- which I think looks sharp. Bottom line it will look good if tastefully done. We all know good work when we see it.

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On 8/15/2020 at 11:56 AM, awk409ak said:

Crowvet,

Those are the 64 Buick Wildcat rally wheels.  The center part was a silver color not the later charcoal color and had a Wildcat cap.  They were originally a black background with the chrome cat.  Mine are faded.  Have not been able to find new stickers to replace these.

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Example of the correct cap.

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They look outstanding and a piece of cake of to make. If you know how to make them. Just have to learn first.

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Tube,

The 64 Wildcat center cap is one piece stamped with the Wildcat and the spring fingers that hold it in place.  The black or silver around the 'cat's face is painted.  Here's a picture of the back side.

 

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It's two piece, but no plastic involved. The stamped Wildcat is crimped into the fingered base,

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Here’s a shot of my car with the factory Turbine covers and the 18” wheels I have on it now. 

I like it both ways...but a set of skylark wires would be my holy grail!  -Dave

 

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On 8/16/2020 at 12:10 PM, RivNut said:

Tube,

The 64 Wildcat center cap is one piece stamped with the Wildcat and the spring fingers that hold it in place.  The black or silver around the 'cat's face is painted.  Here's a picture of the back side.

 

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It's two piece, but no plastic involved. The stamped Wildcat is crimped into the fingered base,

 

Ed, That is correct!  That's why I say I think I need new sticker, but have not found any yet.  I have only seen them with the black around the chrome cat and chrome outer ring.  And yes like Ed said the fingers holds the cap on the wheel.   

 

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On 8/16/2020 at 12:10 PM, RivNut said:

Tube,

The 64 Wildcat center cap is one piece stamped with the Wildcat and the spring fingers that hold it in place.  The black or silver around the 'cat's face is painted.  Here's a picture of the back side.

 

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It's two piece, but no plastic involved. The stamped Wildcat is crimped into the fingered base,

The metal cap as opposed to plastic m I g h t be easier to make. One never knows until one tries. Do one?

Turbinator

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On 8/16/2020 at 3:49 PM, DaveC6970 said:

Here’s a shot of my car with the factory Turbine covers and the 18” wheels I have on it now. 

I like it both ways...but a set of skylark wires would be my holy grail!  -Dave

 

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The new wheels are modern and look sharp. I’m partial to the turbines and they look real good as well.

Turbinator

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