edinmass Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 1932 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I think I've derived more pleasure from this thread than any other, ever. Many thanks, Ed! Gil Fitzhugh 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Thank you really enjoyed it and the memories of things I had forgotten (sliding a Jag through Sloan's curve...) If staying with the 4 valves per cyl in 1932, a DV32 maybe ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38DLS Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1932 - 3 window Ford coupe chopped and channeled with a crate Chevy 350! Painted bright yellow with 15 inch wide slicks on the back. So there, we can be smart asses too! dave s 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 One of the most truly enjoyable threads I have followed on any forum! And my kind of incredible car. We all thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMAV8FORD Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Thank you for taking us along on your ride. It has been grand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Great documentation and story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Cole Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Thank you Ed. I read every post...some more than once. I learned more about pre-war cars from this thread than I have ever learned from books. I look forward to coming down to meet you and the Great White when this Wu Flu crap finally runs it's course. Regards, George 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G. Smits Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 7 hours ago, oldcarfudd said: Many thanks, Ed! I couldn't have said it better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Just so you guys who don’t personally know Mr. Minnie, he’s a great guy, considering.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, trimacar said: Just so you guys who don’t personally know Mr. Minnie, he’s a great guy, considering.... Mr Minnie? Considering? 🤭 All those terrible things you hear about me are true......especially the ones my mother talks about! 😇 Edited November 27, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Showing respect, Ed, I’m sure there are other descriptors which would fit, but trying to be nice! I value you as a good friend, one I would never have without our wonderful hobby. Posts can debate money and values all day long, but if you’re not making friends in this hobby, you’d best collect some thing else, as you’re missing the point. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Thanks David! Although the Chinese Kung Flu is rampant here now, we had car visitors from Michigan today. Friends of thirty years, who have gasoline in their veins. We social distanced and still had a great time. We put twenty miles on the White, comparing it to his 1918 Pierce 38. Lots of fun. We are planning a comparison of them side by side sometime next year. Should be fun. Edited November 28, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_P Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Nice! Thanks so much for this thread. It’s been a great ride, and I’m looking forward to your next reveal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Thanks for taking us along on this adventure. It was great fun! Next...a 1932...something strange...with an interesting history...huh...? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: Thanks for taking us along on this adventure. It was great fun! Next...a 1932...something strange...with an interesting history...huh...? I can't send boring cars......... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtflame Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Ed, Really, thanks for the virtual ride these past couple of months. I’ve known you a while but didn’t know you were such a great story teller. You should’ve been a charter boat Captain! I’m looking forward to a real ride in the Great White in the future. Plus I’m waiting to see how you portray the next mystery vehicle. Also, I’m waiting to hear how you placated Peggy...did she ever end up with that Mercedes you were supposed to get her? 🙄 Edited November 29, 2020 by yachtflame Miss typed words (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, yachtflame said: Also, I’m waiting to hear how you placated Peggy...did she ever end up with that Mercedes you were supposed to get her? She was only asking for a Kia, as I recall, but I think Ed owes her a Maybach.....a MODERN Maybach..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 You guys are hysterical............she asked about her new car again last night.............I sold the Mercedes AMG Roadster a few weeks ago.........it’s nice only having two vehicles for everyday use down here. I will probably hold off on her car for a few more months.........I need to get the next project down here first. If a had one dollar for every view of this thread.............she could get an new Mercedes..............fortunately, she wants a car with a stick.........so it’s going to limit her choices to the lower end of the spectrum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padgett Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just a thought but the Chrysler Crossfire (2004-2009) was a great daily driver for several years. Had a great AC and is a Mercedes SLK320 under the skin. About a third had a six speed manual so pretty common. Forum is very active. Note: SRT are all automatics, for 6 speed want a Limited. Mine was an 07. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34LaSalleClubSedan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, padgett said: Just a thought but the Chrysler Crossfire (2004-2009) was a great daily driver for several years. Had a great AC and is a Mercedes SLK320 under the skin. About a third had a six speed manual so pretty common. Forum is very active. Note: SRT are all automatics, for 6 speed want a Limited. Mine was an 07. Love the Red interior rather than all gray!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G. Smits Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 hours ago, edinmass said: so it’s going to limit her choices to the lower end of the spectrum. If she wants a luxury stick consider a low mileage Lexus SC300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 It is good that you are finished with the White so you can move on to the important car. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtflame Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 So you’re gonna make her wait until the next one is done! I’m just wondering where you plan on sleeping and eating the next few months....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38DLS Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Isn’t the IMPORTANT one his wife’s car????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, alsancle said: It is good that you are finished with the White so you can move on to the important car. That sounds like a Stearnsuggestion? Sorry, my warped sense of humor again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 hours ago, alsancle said: It is good that you are finished with the White so you can move on to the important car. SEND MONEY! Quickly! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) Friends arrived today. The father and son combo have a great bunch of HCCA, Nickel, and a few Classics between them. All neat stuff. True car people. They each took a turn at driving the White. They each did between ten and twenty miles. Got lots of great feedback. It was fun to sit in the backseat and go for a ride. Edited December 6, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Ed, the comment you made in your last sentence really says a lot - many car owners have never ridden in the back seat of their cars that they have owned for decades while someone else is driving. I totally agree it is indeed a pleasure and great experience to do so. An experience all of us should do more often. It puts the cars we own into a totally different perspective. A whole new dimension of pleasure - look out the back window , down the hood even further back then right from the area at the dashboard, To get a total view of what the windshield , rear view mirror etc look like . This should be tried out and experienced - both in the day time and at night as well. When have many of the people reading this seen the glow of what the bulbs that light up the dashboard gauges look like? in the dark interior of the car at night it gives a whole different sensation to the experience. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) On 12/6/2020 at 9:24 AM, Walt G said: Ed, the comment you made in your last sentence really says a lot - many car owners have never ridden in the back seat of their cars that they have owned for decades while someone else is driving. I totally agree it is indeed a pleasure and great experience to do so. An experience all of us should do more often. It puts the cars we own into a totally different perspective. A whole new dimension of pleasure - look out the back window , down the hood even further back then right from the area at the dashboard, To get a total view of what the windshield , rear view mirror etc look like . This should be tried out and experienced - both in the day time and at night as well. When have many of the people reading this seen the glow of what the bulbs that light up the dashboard gauges look like? in the dark interior of the car at night it gives a whole different sensation to the experience. Well said! Beginning in 1994, before my Great Race career ended, we found AACA Tours, like Founders, Sentimental, Glidden and Regional Tours. So far, we've toured in 5 of our own cars and two of other peoples. The OP's were a result of inviting other people to ride with us an even having them drive while we the view from our own back seat, then we went in their cars. We'll be happy when the Covid thing is history and we all can see the USA in our Fords, Chevrolet, Buick & VW, again. We've toured nationally 42 times and there are plenty of back roads yet to be seen from front and back seats. Edited December 8, 2020 by Paul Dobbin re-position text scrambled by the format (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 SO if this is the final discussion about the White Saga then I can stop looking for anything on White cars and go back to focus on finding things about my own cars - ok, done, but hey I was reading a issue of Motor Life magazine from April 1917 this morning ( doesn't everyone(?) have a unread copy of that or Motor Print laying around?) And wouldn't you know it , more White stuff - no not snow ! ( A.J. I knew you were thinking along that line 😲) but there was a article on "Harmonizing Headlamps" ( no I didn't make that up) and here is what was shown................... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Walt, can you send me a scan by email please? Thanks. PS- Thats a car I recognize! And one similar roadster is known.......I just dug it up...........but don't own it.....unfortunately! The headlight set up and body design were covered in American Sientific Magazine, on the proper way to design a car........ Edited December 7, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Walt G said: SO if this is the final discussion about the White Saga then I can stop looking for anything on White cars and go back to focus on finding things about my own cars - ok, done, but hey I was reading a issue of Motor Life magazine from April 1917 this morning ( doesn't everyone(?) have a unread copy of that or Motor Print laying around?) And wouldn't you know it , more White stuff - no not snow ! ( A.J. I knew you were thinking along that line 😲) but there was a article on "Harmonizing Headlamps" ( no I didn't make that up) and here is what was shown................... A "White" White 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Well........Phil and I got back on the White service wise. The initial sorting is over.......now to the very fine tuning, where you get hours of work for little or no results. Anyway, pulled the water pump so we can trial fit the prototype water pump gear and shaft. While doing so, another issue popped up......it wasn’t pleasant. Now we will cast new impellers.......with help for lots of great people on this site. Here is what we are dealing with. Also, the shaft was not leaking....but the temporary repair had begun to fail............ Edited December 11, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Yes Ed I feel your pain in the pump! My 1925 Buicks have suffered the same need as to having new impellors cast. What was left of my 1925 Standard Impellor. Vanes torn off of the spare pump for the 1925 Master. Machining the new brass replacement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelroadster Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Ed, Is that impeller made of aluminum? nickelroadster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, nickelroadster said: Ed, Is that impeller made of aluminum? nickelroadster Yes......unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I agree...that's beyond repair. Quite a lot of the deterioration is attributable to the poor alloy they used. Of course, they used the best that was available but aluminum metallurgy was in it's infancy then although the automotive world was in love with it. Around 1917-1918 Alcoa hired Laurence Pomeroy, ex chief engineer at Vauxhall, to develop automotive aluminum alloys. He wrote a number of papers for the SAE on the value of reducing reciprocating weight and I suspect had much to do with the creation of Lynnite, the aluminum alloy used in connecting rods and pistons, but that doesn't come about for ten years after Ed's White was built. When you make the pattern for the new one I suggest you give the hub parallel sides about 1/4" thick, rather than that tapered shape, so it can be retained with a couple of set screws rather than the pin. When that was made it's very likely that the pin hole was drilled through both parts at the same time...lining up the two holes, if the parts were drilled separately, is nearly to impossible. Edited December 11, 2020 by JV Puleo (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Thanks for the heads up. I will give the information to the gentlemen who is helping me with the pattern. Especially since I will end up sending you the rough casting.........of thats ok.🤔 Its been years since I have done any casting, and all my usual sources are dead, blind, or no longer working. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I'll post a picture of the pattern I made for my impeller. Except that the blades are straight (which would increase the water pressure) it looks much the same. And yes, it's ok....probably a good idea too! Edited December 11, 2020 by JV Puleo (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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