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Help id'ing British prewar chassis (now with more photos)


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I have this chassis bought as part of a lot, quite some time back. It has no markings.

It is under-slung at the rear and center locking hubs all around. I checked the chassis styles of various cars it could be off, but could not figure it out.

 

Any clues as to what might it be?

 

Thank You

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The name escapes me. But the U-joint shown is of a type that was used for only a few years on not many makes of automobiles in the USA from the mid '20s into the early '30s. I don't know if they were used on British cars or not.

 I think I still have one of those U-joints from a '27ish Studebaker buried in my parts stash.

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My brain might be playing tricks but I believe they are Spicer U joints. My old Packard truck used them .

A larger size than these of course.  The British version is probably a Hardy - Spicer, they made conventional

U joints right up to at 1980's and probably longer.

 

Greg

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3 hours ago, wayne sheldon said:

The name escapes me. But the U-joint shown is of a type that was used for only a few years on not many makes of automobiles in the USA from the mid '20s into the early '30s. I don't know if they were used on British cars or not.

 I think I still have one of those U-joints from a '27ish Studebaker buried in my parts stash.

They are "Spicer" joints in the USA - used in the 20s and early 30s of the auto make I'm familiar with. My 33 English Austin uses the same, but it's labeled "Hardy Spicer", as Staver said..

 

Paul

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Pedal assembly on the right suggests right hand drive confirming British origin. So we are looking for a British make of medium size with underslung frame from 1928 - 1931 or therabouts. Wasn't the Invicta underslung at the back? I don't think any American makes had this feature after the American Underslung of the teens.

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They may be used on cars from 1928 - 31 but Packard used them on their trucks from 1916 - 24 so they were in existence much earlier. Possibly  they were first popular on later teens / early 1920's trucks and gradually were adopted by car makers ?

Packard actually used a  mixed system.  The trans. is separately mounted and used fabric disk U - joints on its short drive shaft. The trans to rear end shaft uses Spicer joints.

Greg

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MY 1935 Morris uses that type of driveline connector, known s a "Fabric coupling" in the UK.

Terry

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I pulled out the chassis again and measured the wheelbase and track, and took some additional photos.

 

Wheelbase - 99.75 - 100 inches

Track - Front - 57 inches / Rear 56 inches (these are approximate as there are no wheels to take the correct measurement)

 

There are various cuts and welds on the chassis to fit the made-up body it had, otherwise it seems unmodified. The front shocks looks suspect, though its lower pin looks factory.

 

I apologize for some of the photos, I do not know how to rotate them here. They were fine before upload.

 

Thank You

 

Pedal box assembly and master cylinder

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Front brake drum

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Side view

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Casting at the front of the chassis

 

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Rear suspension

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Differential

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Front Suspension

 

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Mid Chassis

 

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top view

 

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