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Lots of great Brass Era Panhard Levassor's, especially the large models. Not many in North America so fairly unknown around here. One toured with the Horseless Carriage club in California for quite a few years { 1980's ?} but I am not sure if it is in North America 

anymore.

 

Greg

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This Delahaye, displayed at the Mullin in California has to be among the most beautiful designs ever!

 

Of my own French cars, surely the Renault Dauphine and Peugeot would NOT rank among the top as far as beauty, nor would the Citroen Ami-6 or the cycolac-bodied Mehari.

 

The 1967 DS-21M and ‘67 DS-21 Pallas sedans would Rank very high on my list/lust, along with the 1966 Safari and our matched pair of white 1971 D-21 Station Wagons.

 

The 1964 2-CV was more fun than the proverbial barrel of monkeys -

BUT - our Exotic 1972 Citroen SM with its 2.7 Litre quad-overhead camshafts, 5-speed tranny and weber carbs, capable of safe, extreme handling, comfort well beyond reasonable expectation, and road speed documented “beyond” 156 mph (As per State Trooper assigned as my support vehicle Many, many years ago), styled 50 years in the past, and as fresh today as one could imagine - this is as close as I can come to my actual favorite-

 

Yes my absolute favorite, only narrowly Beating one I’ve coveted for fifty years, the Citroen Chapron convertible - the one I should have bought 45 years ago.

 

This is the Delahaye I noted from the Mullin collection, with apologies for the quality of cellphone pictures, truly among the most exquisite automotive designs of all time, and certainly of the 1930s:

 

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I think this is the most perfect design of all time. Bugatti Type 57 SC Atlantic.  I remember seeing this car at Hershey a few years back.  This is the Mona Lisa of cars (although I'd argue this point with myself about the Type 31 Royales).

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7 hours ago, Jaybokay said:

 

Most Facel-Vegas, including the Excellence, were built in Paris using Chrysler 331 cu. (5.4 L) V8s. While other Facels tend to command prices around $400,000, the Excellence will only cost you about half that at the most because it's a four-door sedan. Not like I care though. However, a small handful (under 50 units) are in the States.

 

Facel used whatever size V8 was current at the time.

 

This 1961 HK in NZ has a 361 in it.

 

 

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Engineering-wise maybe the 1926 Delage GP car? Straight eight, 1.5 litres, circa 200 hp.

 

 

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I have a whole bunch of favorites, but I'll throw the Matra Bagheera out there since no one else has.

 

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2 hours ago, nzcarnerd said:

 

Facel used whatever size V8 was current at the time.

 

This 1961 HK in NZ has a 361 in it.

 

 

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Were they all Chrysler hemi V-8s, or did they use the engines of other manufacturers?

 

Cheers,

Grog

 

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2 hours ago, 1912Staver said:

Lots of great Brass Era Panhard Levassor's, especially the large models. Not many in North America so fairly unknown around here. One toured with the Horseless Carriage club in California for quite a few years { 1980's ?} but I am not sure if it is in North America 

anymore.

 

Greg

Here's a pre-brass era Panhard & Levassor from 1892, and a post-brass era P&L from 1939.

 

Craig

 

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2 hours ago, Marty Roth said:

This Delahaye, displayed at the Mullin in California has to be among the most beautiful designs ever!

 

Of my own French cars, surely the Renault Dauphine and Peugeot would NOT rank among the top as far as beauty, nor would the Citroen Ami-6 or the cycolac-bodied Mehari.

 

The 1967 DS-21M and ‘67 DS-21 Pallas sedans would Rank very high on my list/lust, along with the 1966 Safari and our matched pair of white 1971 D-21 Station Wagons.

 

The 1964 2-CV was more fun than the proverbial barrel of monkeys -

BUT - our Exotic 1972 Citroen SM with its 2.7 Litre quad-overhead camshafts, 5-speed tranny and weber carbs, capable of safe, extreme handling, comfort well beyond reasonable expectation, and road speed documented “beyond” 156 mph (As per State Trooper assigned as my support vehicle Many, many years ago), styled 50 years in the past, and as fresh today as one could imagine - this is as close as I can come to my actual favorite-

 

Yes my absolute favorite, only narrowly Beating one I’ve coveted for fifty years, the Citroen Chapron convertible - the one I should have bought 45 years ago.

 

This is the Delahaye I noted from the Mullin collection, with apologies for the quality of cellphone pictures, truly among the most exquisite automotive designs of all time, and certainly of the 1930s:

 

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Mullen's have a couple of Talbot-Lagos in their collection; one that was on loan to the Portland Art Museum "Shape of Speed" exhibit in 2018, along with a Delahaye.

 

Craig

 

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1 hour ago, capngrog said:

 

Were they all Chrysler hemi V-8s, or did they use the engines of other manufacturers?

 

Cheers,

Grog

 

 

As I noted they used whatever was current - mostly Chryslers. They may have used others, I don't know. So hemis only until 1958, then regular wedge heads after that.

 

I think it was through the Facel connection that Chrysler used the Pont-a-Mousson four speed manual gearbox for a while. 

 

I am not up on Chrysler gearbox history. I hope somebody can enlighten us.

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If we're in dream world, a Bugatti Type 57  (and related variants) is the ultimate for me.  But in a slightly more realistic bracket, I love the Delahaye 135 cars like this one.   So elegant. 

 

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12 hours ago, capngrog said:

My favorite French "car":

 

https://thetransportjournal.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/citroen-2cv-fourgonette_2jpg.jpg?w=816

 

I know that it's technically a van, but it's still my favorite.

 

Cheers,

Grog

 

 

I would have to agree - most likely because I own one and, as they say, a bird in the hand....

 

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7 hours ago, 8E45E said:

Here's a pre-brass era Panhard & Levassor from 1892, and a post-brass era P&L from 1939.

 

Craig

 

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39_Panhard.jpg

 

I always had a strange attraction to the Dynamic.   They made a few coupes which I think would be the hit of any show.

 

1936 PANHARD & LEVASS0R Dynamic 130 X76 Coupé | Although Pan… | Flickr

 

 

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15 hours ago, Billy Kingsley said:

When I think of French cars, the first vision in my head is of a Citroen 2CV. So I guess that's it.

I saw one for sale on Craigslist Daytona,Fl. under barter or for $15000.

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I had a 1960 Renault Daulphine in high school ,paid $50 for it.Greg

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As long as we're dreaming, I could dream of driving one of these. French Porthos.

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I also like this 6 cylinder

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An amateur video (4 minutes) taken at the Mullin Automotive Museum in Oxnard, California:

 

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A more complete look at the Mullin Automotive Museum - Oxnard, California

At the time, Peter Mullin had maybe 3 or 4 non-French autos on display,

but the museum and collection are essentially of French cars.

 

We were invited into the adjacent warehouse which was used mostly for storage of cars not currently on display, as well as for restoration and construction. A automotive artist was building a "buck" to construct a duplicate of the Bugatti Atlantic Coupe, the one which was riveted along a central seam because the extreme lightweight metal used for the body (titanium?) would catch fire if welding was attempted.

 

 

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