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I have come across with a lot of parts being different for 38. 

Example,

Part 758697 up to LR 1450

Part 759000 after LR 1450.

What was changed on the 38s?

Above numbers are not accurate. Just using as an example.

What I'm seeing that is different during the 38 model year.

Door parts

Frame parts

Interior parts.

 

 

Another mystery,

what is a MC-RC sedan?

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As far as different parts during 38 production the internal and external door handles on the late '38's are different from early. They also have diamond plate running boards more like 39-47.  Also the T-handle windshield crank like the later trucks. and  they did away with the DODGE emblem on the dash, and put a high beam light there. those are the differences I'm aware of, there could be more.  20200616_134553.thumb.jpg.e45f6089f042aa29383227e1b982629f.jpg

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I've actually used this '38 as a template for some of my restoration...they put this one together the closest to factory.

 

https://jpegbay.com/gallery/006956254-1.html#1

 

Not so sure about the turn signal and heater, but it had dual wipers, dual spare tires, with covers.

 

I would be in heaven If I could fine that headlight knob with the the hi-beam indicator in red....

 

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3 hours ago, Surf City '38 said:

I've actually used this '38 as a template for some of my restoration...they put this one together the closest to factory.

 

https://jpegbay.com/gallery/006956254-1.html#1

 

Not so sure about the turn signal and heater, but it had dual wipers, dual spare tires, with covers.

 

I would be in heaven If I could fine that headlight knob with the the hi-beam indicator in red....

 

I have never seen the vin tag below the oval. Also never seen the oval tag not having the LR. Beautiful truck. Looks like Vic's and Alex work and differently yours.

 

 

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Yeah they did a top notch job on it. but yes  the turn signals are definitely not factory.  the heater could have been dealer installed. but also likely  not from the factory. 

Interesting about the headlight knob. I would have thought all that have the indicator in the knob would be red. on mine its on the dash, so clear is correct. Another thing they changed at some point. 

Mine also has the oval tag above the vin tag. I think it usually is that way on 37-38's. not having LR is strange. 

 

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That would make sense, I have not seen one with red in it, But have not seen many. that knob is likely original going by the nickle being worn off. maybe keep an eye on Ebay. you might get lucky. If I see one I'll let you know.     I did notice the Alberta licence plates, but then the Vin tag says Detroit. I think if the truck was Canadian it would be a Fargo? I'm betting it was imported. 

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I checked and there is one NOS on Ebay, with the red jewel, but for cars. and  not inexpensive.:D not sure if they are the same. the part number for trucks is 580582 according to my book. I don't think truck knobs have the crinkled look?. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-1938-Plymouth-Dodge-DeSoto-Chrysler-HEADLAMP-KNOB-With-Red-Jewel/143022234543?epid=2298345181&hash=item214cca1baf:g:D2UAAOSwhzhb9V2e

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Yeah I same here. :D On the other hand if I was a millionaire maybe.    there was this one too, that sold. better but still way up there. it looks correct. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-DESOTO-1938-PLYMOUTH-DODGE-DESOTO-HEADLIGHT-KNOB-w-RED-JEWEL-/274254175034?hash=item3fdad29b3a%3Ag%3ADeYAAOSwzvhd9B65&nma=true&si=%2FamHSkf%2Blv9%2FHpBhyvsrXY07RPw%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I'm actually wondering if the trucks even had the red indicator. maybe they put a car knob in the commercial sedan only. it would be interesting to see an NOS 580582 knob. another thing I've never seen is the chrome trim around the knob holder, or grouping plate I think they call it. I don't see it in the parts book. assuming its original.

 

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Yeah its hard to say if the blue lettering is original/correct . the restorer could have done a little customizing there. the grooves look the same as the gauges, but the lettering looks darker and not metallic?  It could just be the lighting. But I think there was some flexibility in painting from the factory. everyone says the engines were always silver for instance, yet mine definitely had the engine block/bell housing a dark green. in fact this ad shows the engine being darker. I did find silver on the head and thermostat housing. 

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On 6/18/2020 at 7:26 AM, Surf City '38 said:

I've never seen that trim on the RC's, also the word Dodge I had always thought was painted black and the grooves were the same color blue as the the gauges, all painted by hand.

Our 1938 RC has the red indicator light in the switch. Also has slightly different door handles/cranks inside. Based on the SN it was manufactured late in 1938 model year.

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15 hours ago, this_is_greg said:

Our 1938 RC has the red indicator light in the switch. Also has slightly different door handles/cranks inside. Based on the SN it was manufactured late in 1938 model year.

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Nice. 👍  that's interesting. so there were at least 3 different   door window crank handles. and the changes didn't all happen at once. that confirms the red knob indicator is correct. I wonder now  if the indicator light was added to the dash by a previous owner in mine, but the wire and bulb holder is part of the original wiring harness. or at least I think so. I replaced the wiring over 20 years ago, but still have it. will need to dig it out and check.   

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So it turns out the bulb holder was spliced onto the original wire, but still fabric so must have been done long ago.  I think its safe to say they never came with an indicator on the dash from the factory... I wonder if they ran out of the Dodge emblems late in production? or maybe cost cutting. 

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