moran75 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) Hi All Re. my 401 with original Carter AFB - i bought a dashpot bracket advertised to fit either a 4 bbl Carter or Rochester. But with the dashpot attached it does not make contact with the throttle...its passes just underneath ...so angle of bracket is too shallow, if that makes sense. Bracket hasnt been bent out of shape - no damage. BTW engine runs great - choke/fast idle/idle all seem to be functioning as they should. So although advertised as correct for either Carter or Rochester is this correct? Have i got a bracket for a Rochester? PIA as i live overseas and by time it gets here its a small but expensive part! Cheers Kev Edited June 20, 2020 by moran75 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Post a picture, please. When I bought my 63, it was equipped with a 4CG Rochester. Instead of rebuilding it, I swapped it for a Garter AFB. The dash pot and bracket were never touched and worked perfectly with each carburetor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moran75 Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, RivNut said: Post a picture, please. When I bought my 63, it was equipped with a 4CG Rochester. Instead of rebuilding it, I swapped it for a Garter AFB. The dash pot and bracket were never touched and worked perfectly with each carburetor. Will do ASAP..... All the best kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moran75 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 9:40 PM, RivNut said: Post a picture, please. When I bought my 63, it was equipped with a 4CG Rochester. Instead of rebuilding it, I swapped it for a Garter AFB. The dash pot and bracket were never touched and worked perfectly with each carburetor. Few pics attached ...not a big issue as car goes fine without it..slight hint of stalling when coming off throttle quickly...but the bits cost me nearly $100 with taxes/fees/exchange rate so would quite like them to work 😀.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Curran Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The dashpot and mounting bracket looks correct. There is a chance that the gasket under the carb is too thick which is causing the misalignment with the throttle. It is hard to tell from the pictures. I have some NOS carb mounting gaskets for the Carter AFB if in fact that's what the issue is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I understand your frustration along with the additional costs. Even IF the gasket is too thick no big deal just bend the bracket. As you well know this is not rocket science. AND, by my eyes the bracket does look correct. Tom T. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moran75 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 Oakey dokey chaps...at least I know I got the right part...I’ll get bending 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Put a couple of washers under the bracket to raise it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 An even better idea!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, telriv said: An even better idea!!!! Not a good idea...there is a projection on the bracket which indexes into a drilling on the manifold which keeps the bracket from pivoting. I would take an adjustable wrench, adjust it down so the length of the jaw grabs the bracket and bend it as suggested...might take all of 2 minutes. Tom M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I'm aware of the dimple, but that would seem to be for location rather than prevention. IOW, there's minimal torque on the bracket and hardly any pressure; is the throttle spring strong enough it to spin it against the clamping force of the bolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 From the picture it looks like it needs about 1/2" worth of washers (or a spacer) . That bolt I believe is a 3/4" long: with the thickness of the bracket.... go searching for a new bolt, too. And then there's looking at what would be an eyesore on a regular basis. Bend it with a channel locks. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Eyesore? How much time do you spend looking underneath the air cleaner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, KongaMan said: Eyesore? How much time do you spend looking underneath the air cleaner? Hi KongaMan, I was merely saying to the original poster what I thought the easiest fix was. On a personal note I never logged my hours looking under the air cleaner, though I can with certainty say "many". Some people like mcGuiver fixes, some don't. I wouldn't get offended by it. Sorry if you do. Just as important I don't like swaying the topic in a thread from the original posters intentions. sincerely, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Any ideas as to why that is happening? The carb , carb linkage , and bracket look original . Also the bracket does not look like it was ever bent. Seems like it should all line up without any modifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I believe the brackets are model year specific, would have to look it up in parts book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychostang Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) Here is a pic of the one off of my car. It was on a 64 manifold. It worked perfectly with my 66 4180s carter carb. Definately has more of an up angle than yours does. Edited June 13, 2020 by psychostang (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Here's a picture of a bracket taken on the same plane that it sits on the manifold. I don't have a protractor so I can't tell you the angle. Mine will not lie flat like the one that you pictured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychostang Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Ed, your bracket looks just like mine. Definately different than the one he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Moran, If you'd like to compare brackets head to head, I'll send one of mine for you to try, If it works, we can figure out something in the way of compensation; if not, you can just send it back to me. If you'd like to compare, send me your address via a PM. Ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moran75 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Thanks all....ive been weighing up options...I’m going for the bend option 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Eat a bunch of Wheaties before trying to bend one of these. To gain the advantage you're wanting, you're not going to bend on one of the existing bends. You'll be trying to put a new bend in the vertical piece. That would entail a V notch and some welding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 16 hours ago, gungeey said: I believe the brackets are model year specific, would have to look it up in parts book Yep. 1357424: 63 1362824: 64-65 w/1 4-barrel 1375344: 66 Dash pots have different numbers as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moran75 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 Update - the vendor, whose communication has been slow and not very responsive to say the least 😀 - has now confirmed (after some prompting by me thanks to comments from this thread) that he has indeed sent wrong bracket. He seems to have offered to send me the correct one - i say seemed because he's being slow /unresponsive again to my request fro clarification. Anyway - all is good. Won't be bending anything. Thanks all Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychostang Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Excellent, I hope it works out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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