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The AACA Eastern fall National Meet (Hershey) Flea Market and Corral has been cancelled 2020

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OK, I'm trying to figure this out...............an event which does NOT charge an entrance fee for tens of thousands of people over five days.............and people are complaining that the club and region don't want to gamble 200K or better up front just to find out the state, county, township, lawyers, insurance companies, and a bunch of other people who could pull the plug at the last minute? It was obvious the fall meet was doomed back in April. Sad, depressing, but true. If they can pull off a car show, I will come the 1500 miles to see it.........and of the last 49 years, I have only stayed for the show three times. The logic of going even if it's only a smaller show........a placeholder for employment time off/vacation week. I figure I'll haul my car down to the area and tour with it..........

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Benefits of AACA Membership.

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I have not been one to complain incessently about the organization of the greatest event in our hobby (guy in space c55 has a set of cragers and an aftermarket tape deck, and a guy in an unauthorized scooter is looking at them.  He probably needs the scooter to get by the spaces with only a few token parts out and...) So when I say this it is intended as a positive statement, if the Hershey region is considering any changes or refinements now is a good time to do that.  There is NO reason 2021 cannot be as good as anytime in recent memory.  Logistics, legal concerns, etc. Make 2020 too risky. 

 

 

 

 

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Ed you nailed it...far more than $200,000 as you surmised.  The risk of spending and contracting only to have the rug pulled out was too big especially since the Governor has not even allowed us to have a rug yet!

 

Joe, liability was not a deciding factor.  Liability is an issue for every business and you just do all you can to mitigate any exposure. 

 

Earl, everyone was sent an email.  It will be in Speedster tonight.  It will be in the next magazine and it will be in Hemmings today along with every other publication we can possibly reach.  It will be on our website and the Hershey Region website and is on both of our Facebook pages and the region's Facebook page.  

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How long will we as a nation put up with all of these mandates and penalties that were never passed by a state or federal legislature.  The Supreme Court needs to act now!!!

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Excellent decision.  If you do not agree, please read the article written a couple of weeks ago by former Pennsylvania Governor and Homeland Security Advisor Tom Ridge.

Yes, we will miss, but it is the right thing to do.

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2 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said:

But to top it all, here is what the Governor said just the other day once we are in the Green Phase!!!

 

Any gathering for a planned or spontaneous event of greater than 250 individuals is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, a concert, festival, fair, conference, sporting event, movie showing, or theater performance.

 

 

Beyond Hershey itself, which is a noun to the greater population but is a verb to us, this is the most troubling thing of all.  Many people here have been operating under the assumption that Green = Good to Go or "normal" and that is not the case.  Thus far I have not seen anything that states there is a color after Green that would be "normal-normal".  There is no blue or purple or anything else.  There is only this "new normal" and that is where it stops, so it is very easy to see why this decision was made.  Of greater concern than what our state government is saying is what they are not saying.    

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I'll certainly be at the car show portion if it is held.

I can enjoy my cars without a show, but sharing them

with the public, and meeting friends, adds to the luster.

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We were so fortunate to get Amelia Island completed before this crap stopped that also.    

 

I'm sad we won't have Hershey this year and a little ashamed of our society at the same time.  Were a bunch of pathetic pansy azz's if you ask me.  

 

I understand the legal portion and it's sad what we've become.  

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I sure hope you are not referring to the region members as lazy or pansies!  Hard to understand your meaning.  They have been working hundreds of hours on the show for this year every since last year's show finished.  They do this for free for our benefit. My previous post explained what the problem is and that is the facts in this matter.  Everyone needs to put their feet in the shoes of those who are doing the work, taking the risks and outlaying their financial resources.  I also stated that the legal issue did NOT drive the decision.  Our state government did and when your existence is threatened if you disobey the rules then you must do the sensible thing. 

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1 hour ago, Janousek said:

We were so fortunate to get Amelia Island completed before this crap stopped that also.    

 

I'm sad we won't have Hershey this year and a little ashamed of our society at the same time.  Were a bunch of pathetic pansy azz's if you ask me.  

 

I understand the legal portion and it's sad what we've become.  

Ashamed at what?  Over 100,000 have died.  If we didn’t do this sort of isolation, it might have been 300,000 or more.  A guy just came into my office complaining that Cuomo is now allowing businesses to require a mask before entering.  His answer:  You’re violating my constitutional rights!  No, as a country we have the need to protect our citizens from ignorant people who only think of themselves.  
It takes a strong person and group to make the hard decisions.  Kudos to the Hershey region!  Our Chautauqua County region did the same think by cancelling Dunkirk.  I cancelled our ‘54 Ford Convention for the same reason.

Just wondering how some would feel if their mother or father, grandparents or children were to die over the virus?  

 

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Please don't misinterpret what I'm saying, but HERSHEY is not just about having the car show. True it's a great show, but it's becoming more of a preservation class, car show then an antique car show. My issue with missing HERSHEY is that I have attended every show since 1968. It's in my blood and what we do in October. I have missed some important events in my life for HERSHEY. We go down for the entire week and visit venders that we have made friends with over that time, that we see once a year. It's walking every aisle till we can hardly walk anymore. It's having lunch at the vendor's. It's coming back to the same hotel's and restaurant's every year and having the waitresse's remember us. I would rather they cancel the entire venue and start it over in 2021. People aren't going to travel hundreds and in some cases thousands of miles to see a car show. As sick as I am about the cancellation, I truly understand what the HERSHEY Region is trying to do but I really think they should just concentrate on bringing it back in 2021.

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33 minutes ago, AJFord54 said:

His answer:  You’re violating my constitutional rights!  No, as a country we have the need to protect our citizens from ignorant people who only think of themselves.  

 

So true! I see all the No Mask people as selfish bastards.

 

It's just another line to the sign we all have followed for years. I don't get the griping.

 

No Shirt

No Shoes

No Service

 

Now:

 

No Shirt

No Shoes

No Mask

No Service

 

Simple!

 

Now, get out and enjoy your antique vehicles!👍

 

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Hershey is about the entire experience and you are right about that!  We all get that!  We all experience the same things and not seeing friends or having the same experience is devastating.  The region and national officials go thought the same feelings as well.

 

However, I fail to understand any reason for canceling the show if it can be held!  All of us here in Hershey are simply trying to provide at least an opportunity to enjoy the hobby with friends and see great cars.  Those that want to take part will and those that don't ,won't!  All I can say is that the vast amount of emails, texts, phone calls from AACA members has been PLEASE make the show happen.  We intend to if we can!

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Folks, the shock of Hershey being cancelled is still settling in for a lot of us.  But keep in mind the members of the Hershey Region AACA are only working within the guidelines of what the Governor of PA has set forth.  I am sure they want a Fall Meet to go on more than anyone else.  The Governor of PA has set very strict limits on crowds and gatherings and quite frankly, 200,000 people coming to the AACA Fall Meet is way beyond anything he would allow this year.  I have lived in Florida the past 20 years and our Governor made different decisions than Governor Wolf did.  That, and by the grace of God, our numbers our down and life is returning to (almost) normal down here.  Fussing and complaining will not fix anything.  We must all stand with our Hershey Region members and show them that we support the decision and we will all be back in 2021 for another amazing Hershey Fall Meet!  Be safe and see you all Down the Road!

 

 

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I agree with Earl.  I've been a member for years and have never gotten an email.....Coalter Paxton

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Coalter, you might want to contact us to see if we have your correct email.  You also might want to be sure you have not opted out of receiving emails from us and you might also make sure our emails are not going to spam.  We ARE showing an email for you and our computer files do not pick and choose who will get emails!  If we have your email, and it is a national email there is no reason except for the above that you do not get it!  If you have been getting monthly Speedster emails you should have had the one we sent!

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Thanks Steve, I'll check this out next week.  I have not been getting the monthly Speedster

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Coalton, Pat just checked and your emails bounce back to us!  So, we obviously do not have your correct email...call Pat Buckley and she will fix it!  or email her at pbuckley@aaca.org  

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3 hours ago, Frank DuVal said:

So true! I see all the No Mask people as selfish b*stards.

...Now, get out and enjoy your antique vehicles!

 

Frank, I'll have to disagree, though I kindly respect your opinion.

I was at an Amish and Mennonite small grocery store the other

day--not terribly far from Hershey--and everything was normal.

No barriers, no masks, no distance-keeping.  The few "English"

customers had masks.  I see these people, right or wrong, as

self-sufficient, hardy people, much like our forebears.  Not all

Amish stores around here are like that, though, I hear from others.

 

Now, your second sentence:  Great advice!  I heartily agree!

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 Just read that the Boston marathon, a race with up to 30,000 runners has been canceled. Details are sketchy but it seems already registered runners can participate in a "virtual" marathon. If a runner can document they ran, or run, a 26.2 mile marathon in 6 hours or less they will receive a number bib and a medal.

Maybe Hershey can have a virtual show.

If you are registered and If your car has already received a Junior just submit 6 recently dated pix and you will get your virtual Senior award.

You will receive, by Email,  a full size, 6 color picture of a recent Hersey banquet with a pix of your car photo shopped in, and a beautiful

pix of your trophy suitable for framing after you print it out, and a life size pix of your grill badge suitable for laminating and mounting.

Don't get mad, guys. Lighten up. A little tongue in cheek never hurts.

OTOH..........Hmmmm?...............Bob

 

 

 

 

 

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Bear in mind, John, that the Amish pretty much self-isolate all the time.

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9 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

Bear in mind, John, that the Amish pretty much self-isolate all the time.

Not around here they don't. They may not mix socially but they have NO problem at all conducting and running businesses of all sorts and kinds. Never on Sunday, Though.

There's also Mennonites. Never can keep them straight. There's a local farm where we hang glide. The owners and kids always come over and talk and socialize. They can use tractors but can't have rubber tires. they use steel tires. No electricity in their homes but they have a communal phone on an outside pole. Some only use horses. Others can drive but paint all the chrome black. Others can't drive a car but can rent drivers to take them around.

By and large gentle friendly folks...........Bob

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7 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

Bear in mind, John, that the Amish pretty much self-isolate all the time.

 

Negative.  Around here their shops are open to the public and of the ones that are in retail the majority of their customers are us -- nurseries, groceries, leather shops, etc.  I deal with some of the carriage shops and they have a lot of we "English" going in there, too.  If your money is green they will take it.  They shop at WalMart and use the local banks enough that they even put in hitching posts for them.  

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My wife and I used to take week-long courses at the Wooden Boat School in Brooklyn, Maine.  Meals are family style.  One year we shared a table with a Mennonite couple from Michigan.  They were farmers, but they had a Cessna 172 in their barn.  My grandson became a Mennonite, and he's a civil engineer.

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