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14 minutes ago, Walt G said:

OK time to get into a VANE mode. weather vane of course. This was 2 stories up on the top of a gas station in Mineola , N.Y. and when my friends who ran the station were leaving because the word is the place would be torn down ( it was built ca. 1934). I stopped by and wondered why no one had taken down the weather vane that was there since the building was new - my answer was that they didn't like height ( neither did I ) so it would stay and become part of the debris heap. I went home and loaded a wood construction ladder into my 41 Packard woody wagon and with my Dad along went back and climbed up and cut it down with a hack saw ( it was November, really cold and by the time I got there was dark) had a small flash light in my mouth to see what I was working on . Several friends stopped by and wondered who was at the top of the ladder and when told who in a loud voice said " REALLY are you nuts!"  . They never did tear the building down but it got sealed up and turned into a laundry.

The weather vane is about 36 inches wide for the length of the car which resembles a 1935-36 Chrysler product or a Reo or a ? I do not know who made the weather vane but it is very well detailed in heavy sheet metal . Today for many decades it has resided on the top of my garage. Still functioning well . I had to fabricate a new base for it to fit well on the garage here.

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That item is totally inapproipate for your zoning and neighborhood........it should come down immediately.....and be sold to me ...........cheap!

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But A.J. I know all the cops here in town locally, they were mostly all my former students - they know I am eccentric and are just happy I live a 😮 1/2 mile away from the village hall where the police HQ is located. 😮

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I like the color, contents, and the invoice on this cabinet. The last year in the catalog is 1923 but it was sold in 1925. Must be $8.50 not $85.

 

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Those are fantastic. Outstanding condition!  Here are a few from my collection that I have displayed in my recreation of an early auto parts store. . Not all motor oil.  This topic almost deserves a separate thread. There are so many great cans out there.

Terry

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Wow-if you've only got one, that's the one to have.  I once had to pass up the large 5gal can of motor oil like this.  It was in pristine condition in an antique shop in Maine.  We were on a camping trip and hour Plymouth station wagon loaded to the max.  We had all the camping gear, two kids, a cat,all our stuff and two weeks of antique shop finds. Even had and antique dresser and a truck tied on the roof rack. Then dresser drawers were full of our dirty laundry and the truck was full of antique clocks and kerosene lamps.  Not an inch left over, so that beaut9iful $50 can stayed on the shelf.  Today, we'd have thrown out the clothes and camping gear to get that can in.  I know people who might have even considered leaving the cat behind!

Here are a few more automotive "containers" from my old store.

Terry

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I’m partial to Duplex cans, that feature Pierce...since I collect a pierce memorabilia...the one gallon flat To the left seems more common, the five gallon can to the right is tough to find...I have a couple more but these are the only pics on my computer....

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Some have asked if I have a photo of the weather vane I posted ( on Wednesday ) in place before I removed it . Yes, here it is about 1972, on Jericho Tpke, in Mineola, N .Y.

That was quite a climb up to get it in the middle of a cold dark November night with the wind blowing.  Once it was cut down I had to slowly climb down the ladder with the heavy weather vane in my left hand and instructions from below where to place my foot because I couldn't look down to see the next rung on the ladder. All the time a good friend saying " you are out of your mind". ( fortunately there is a major hospital about a 1/2 mile directly south of the location where the weather vane was which I did not need to avail the use of )

I kept thinking - I can't drop the weather vane as it will land on my father's head and cause some damage and if I fell I am to skinny and not limber enough to bounce well. I told Austin Clark what I had done and his comment was " very happy you didn't get yourself seriously killed".

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Red Ashay manufactured accessory mascots in England in the Pre WWII era. One was a glass winged lady that was or could be mounted on a metal base that had a bulb inside with a celluloid color wheel that when the bulb as lit would sent the color up through the base to the figure . there was a wire that ran into the base of the mascot to electrify it and a switch on the dashboard of the car to turn it on /off.  A great friend in England after many years located one for me , bought it with funds I had on account in England and then told me " keep an eye on your mail" not telling me what was coming!  It is my favorite car mascot that is made of glass.

There is a knob at the front of the base to turn to select the color and you can see the fitting at the back that would have the wire coming out to provide the wire to the electricity. Total height with base is 10 inches, glass mascot is 7 inches high and front to back from tip of nose to end of are/wing is 6 inches.

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 the shaving mug is the same size as a normal coffee mug and dates from 1916, has the name of the person it was made for on it. It was a custom at one time  when you used to shave with a straight razor you sharpened on a leather strap to have a mug to soak the brush you put the shaving lather on in.  The mugs usually had a scene or object on it that guys liked - train, boat etc . Some guys liked cars - some still do!!!

 

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Styling model entered in competition back in the early 1950s ( possibly from the St. Louis area) with the Fisher Body Craftsman's Guild ( competition went from about 1930 to 1968) 1/12 th scale made of wood, metal, composition materials. Some of the models wound up in assorted G.M. facilities after the competition. This one was in the Youngstown, Ohio Fisher Body plant on display in the lobby. When that was being closed and stuff being thrown away this was saved from the trash heap and eventually wound up in Florida with the family of the fellow who saved it .

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Great stuff Walt (as usual).  The mascot is fabulous.  Having the correct base for it is a real bonus. 

 

The shaving mug is known as an "occupational" mug.  In the early days when you went to the barber shop for a shave, your own personal mug was displayed on a special rack so everyone could see it.  Even back then, customers were not willing to share a common shaving mug, so had their own personalized with their name and some symbolism depicting their occupation (hence the name "occupational shaving mug")  Mugs can also be found with fraternal symbols on them, scenes depicting hobbies or interests, or even one's home or farmhouse.   They generally went out of fashion after more people began shaving at home rather than going to the barber shop.  Mugs with automobiles on them are very much sought after by collectors of mugs and other shaving memorabilia as well as automobile nuts like us.  

 

Originals were painted onto blanks and the quality of the artwork on them varies.  Most were very well done though, and the owners name was always included.  There are more details worth studying before investing for the casual collector, and caution is urged because there are reproductions around.  Most common are those that were produced as a special edition called 'The Sportsman Series. 

 

From 1953 to 1955, the Warner Lambert Pharmaceutical Company sold their Sportsman brand of shaving soap in hand decorated occupational style shaving mugs. The main feature that identifies this group of mugs is that the name of the occupation is in gold lettering instead of the owner's name. In addition, the word "The" appears before the name; for example, "The Doctor", "The Fireman" etc.

 

Here is a link to some great info on how to determine if an Occupational Shaving Mug is real or not.

https://www.realorrepro.com/article/Shaving--Mugs

 

Terry

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This came into my position just recently - and Walt, I'm sure you'll like it - another "nodder."  

This one tells a story - the probably intoxicated motorist has killed a goose, and he will nod his head in agreement that he owes the farmer for his carelessness.  His wallet is in hand, and he is ready to pay up.  Back in the early days of the automobile, motorists were looked down upon and thought of as reckless dare-devils who created havoc on country roads.  Many an early piece of motoring artwork, especially on postcards, depicted motorists driving through the countryside running over animals and even the farmers on the way to market.  

 

This wonderful piece was probably made in Germany or Austria around the 1903-1905 time-frame.  It's very delicate bisque china and hand decorated.  I purchased it from an antique dealer who really had no idea what it was or what history it really represented. 

 

Terry

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Terry, thank you so much for the more detailed history about the shaving mugs - I had heard this at one time ( perhaps 40 years ago) and everything you stated as I read it came back like a flash of history! Great. this is what this section of the thread is all about - INFORMATION to help our fellow enthusiasts know what to look for and then hopefully be able to buy an authentic period item. I sincerely appreciate anything you have to tell us my good friend.

The nodder is great - made me smile as some guy I know bought a pair of them from me at Hershey a while ago , a Past AACA President I believe.................Drives an MG?!?!!

All this stuff makes a lot of us happy, it sits there within eyes view and even just a glance signals a good time when we found and acquired it and it is an escape - especially now for all the stress we are under due to the health plague. The connection to the vintage vehicles we love, the era they were made in, the history that they survived 70+ years to still be here to give such pleasure - just like the cars do.

That shaving mug I have has a crack in it but I like it just the same.  We all seem to belong to our version of  AA - Automotive Artifacts .

Keep up the sharing everyone, and remember it is because of AACA that we can all enjoy what we see here.

Walt

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Yes indeed Walt - well stated.  I'll always remember rushing over to your spot at Hershey to see those nodders.  It was Mike and Murray who spotted them and that evening told me about them - so next morning (after a sleepless night hopeful you still had them) I rushed over as soon as possible.  It's certainly nice to have extra eyes in the swap meet looking out for things that might fit into my collection(s).   That evening I'd also called my good friend Neil and asked him to zip across the aisle and let you know I was on my way to see them.  I think I was there before he even got out of bed!  Anyway, they have had a spot in one of my display cases ever since, waiting for a third one.  One of my "rules of collecting" is to understand that three of anything is a collection.  So, now with three nodders on display here I guess you can classify me as an official collection of nodders.  I wonder what the chances of finding others that are early motoring related will be in the coming years?  Any more out there among folks pursuing this forum?

Terry

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On 11/15/2020 at 3:28 PM, Walt G said:

Styling model entered in competition back in the early 1950s ( possibly from the St. Louis area) with the Fisher Body Craftsman's Guild ( competition went from about 1930 to 1968) 1/12 th scale made of wood, metal, composition materials. Some of the models wound up in assorted G.M. facilities after the competition. This one was in the Youngstown, Ohio Fisher Body plant on display in the lobby. When that was being closed and stuff being thrown away this was saved from the trash heap and eventually wound up in Florida with the family of the fellow who saved it .

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I have two of my Fisher Body Craftsman Guild models on display at The Gilmore Museum at Hickory Corners, Mi. 

 

I kept them all of the years from when I made them because they were special to me.  There was a request a couple of years ago for persons that participated in the guild competition for models to put a display at the museum.  I answered and was chosen to have my cars displayed.

 

It is a nice display.  After I had that experience of building the models, I knew that I was not a stylist.  Just an engineer chasing electrons around wires.  An electrical guy.

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