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23 minutes ago, Nicolas Macan said:

Very good news!!  Finally I find the vin number!!   Can someone help me identify the engine number?  now i can do the auto matching number!  I attach photos!  the number is 6018191!! Thank rex for your coperation!! 

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The number in your frame, 6019181 is listed as a 1930 FE President.   The 1930 FE President frame serial numbers started at 6,016,001 ended at 6,022,000.

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Hello everyone, I tell you that I already have the free chassis to work. I am analyzing cutting the chassis and my feeling is not to cut, but if someone with experience recommends me to do it, I listen to it with interest. Between the axles it is 135 inches it is quite long and I want the boat tail ratio to be proportional to the scale of the car. I leave you a photo. cheers .

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On ‎6‎/‎2‎/‎2020 at 10:08 AM, Nicolas Macan said:

Very good news!!  Finally I find the vin number!!   Can someone help me identify the engine number?  now i can do the auto matching number!  I attach photos!  the number is 6018191!! Thank rex for your coperation!! 

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Now that serial number stamping on the frame is interesting!

 

That font/typeset was usually reserved for 'experimental', 'engineering' or 'pilot' vehicles. (Please see link to one of these cars here: https://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/forum/your-studebaker-forum/general-studebaker-specific-discussion/115092-1961-lark-marshal-what-we-are-learning )

 

Craig

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The 1933 Packard Macauley Special was a one-off boat-tail car built on a 135-inch chassis.  It had excellent proportions.  Not an easy build, but can be done.  

 

Wray Schelin is building a replica body, see his web page about it.  https://www.proshaper.com/1933-packard-macauley-special/

 

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Hello everyone, I will tell you details of my project.  I have finally received a new engine from a FE President Victoria.  rotates and so far looks good.  I wanted to know if someone can help me with the factory compression of the pistons.  I don't need the compression ratio.  I have also received my 19 rim set. I am looking for 700-gauge Excelsior Tires The Comp H for vintage racers tires.  Any recommendation?
 Thanks !!

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When I was just a kid maybe late 50 s or early 60s I went with my dad to a place called classic cars in Gardena calif,the owner was a gentleman named mike mc manus, I remember he had a studebaker touring he told my dad he bought from the studios my dad was trying to buy it but the deal never happened,I remember my dad telling the story all of his life of how he missed it

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16 minutes ago, JustDave said:

When I was just a kid maybe late 50 s or early 60s I went with my dad to a place called classic cars in Gardena calif,the owner was a gentleman named mike mc manus, I remember he had a studebaker touring he told my dad he bought from the studios my dad was trying to buy it but the deal never happened,I remember my dad telling the story all of his life of how he missed it

Dave,

Mike McManus had a used car Dealership called "Atlantic Auto Sales" in Gardena. Here is the update on the car your Dad missed.

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On 2/11/2021 at 3:45 AM, Studenut1915 said:

Hi all. Looks like Nicolas has a fun project going on.

I have  a 1928 FA frame and a bunch of parts that I am going to use for a racer build. Is the frame number is a similar place? My frame did not come with  a serial number tag tag.  

 

Pat

 Hi Pat, I can tell you that my project has been quite difficult thanks to the pandemic, but my spirit is high !!  I will start with the engine soon!  your chassis is long? Thanks 

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3 hours ago, JustDave said:

When I was just a kid maybe late 50 s or early 60s I went with my dad to a place called classic cars in Gardena calif,the owner was a gentleman named mike mc manus, I remember he had a studebaker touring he told my dad he bought from the studios my dad was trying to buy it but the deal never happened,I remember my dad telling the story all of his life of how he missed it

nice story !!  well maybe you could find and restore a studebaker !!  It would be to remember your father!

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      Hi Nicolas 

My my car is a 131 inch wheelbase. The FA was early 28 production and the only 8 to  have 313 cid engine. my car will have cowl hood and radiator up front. seats gas tank toolbox and spare tires at the rear. I'm just going through all the parts and tearing down my two engi  nes. 

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Hello friends !!  I finally got back to work on my project!  now I started to disassemble the engine and it looks pretty good !!  I share images and videos!  I am looking for connecting rod metals !!  will exist in the market?  

 

 Incredible the good quality of the metals of the North American industry of those years !! #studebaker #elcabro 

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Hello Friends, I leave you progress of my project. The engine that Rex sold me is very good, a solid block. The cylinder head is already rectified. I have bought some original NOS pistons that I bought in the Netherlands. They waited for me 90 years! Incredible they were oversized.

I only have the issue of connecting rods pending, I hope I can babbitted in the United States there are very good companies. I leave you a couple of photos .

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hello friends of the aaca forum !!  I report with my project of a Grand Prix car studebaker model president nicknamed “el cabro”.  finally !  They already gave me the engine !!!  a great job was done !!  the original pistons and connecting rods the babbit was made as it was done in the 30’.  crankshaft rocking and valve seats were Perfect!  I hope to paint and assemble soon!

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Hi Nicolas Macan

 

 The engine number as Gary Ash says above the water jacket is correct for a Commander and Dictator, the small block engin.

 

The President engine number is located on the top of the block behind the fan pulley. This may be covered by the cylinder head.

 

Regards

John.

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Hi Nicolas Macan

 

 The engine number as Gary Ash says above the water jacket is correct for a Commander and Dictator, the small block engin.

 

The President engine number is located on the top of the block behind the fan pulley. This may be covered by the cylinder head.

 

Regards

John.

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Hi Nicolas Macan

 

You have certainly taken on a a huge task, as Gary Ash will verify.

 

I built a recreation of the Brooklands Double Twelve Cars, between 1987 and 2001.

 

The project actually started in 1985 when I acquired a suitable donor car. Which was the remains of a  29 FH Roadster. 

 

I was fortunate to acquire a roadster, as it had the roadster high ratio rear axle. the FH 125 inch wheelbase and the roadster cowl with folding windshield. see pics, I have included a pic of the original cars during the Brooklands Double Twelve.

 

  I also was able to obtain copy photos of the original cars, from the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu in the UK.

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On 8/16/2021 at 8:57 PM, Nicolas Macan said:

Does anyone have the torques for the cylinder head crank banks?  And what regulation do the intake and exhaust valves have? Thanks!! 

From a 1936 Chilton's Flat Rate manual:

Tappet Clearance:

Inlet: .004 inch

Exhaust: .006 inch

 

Valve Timing: With No. 1 inlet tappet set to .010 inch, inlet opens 5 degrees or 1 1/2 flywheel teeth after T.C. Marks on cam and crank gears should be in line through shaft centers.

 

No cylinder head bolts torque given in this manual.

 

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On 10/29/2021 at 4:35 AM, Aussi John 1 said:

Hi Nicolas Macan

 

You have certainly taken on a a huge task, as Gary Ash will verify.

 

I built a recreation of the Brooklands Double Twelve Cars, between 1987 and 2001.

 

The project actually started in 1985 when I acquired a suitable donor car. Which was the remains of a  29 FH Roadster. 

 

I was fortunate to acquire a roadster, as it had the roadster high ratio rear axle. the FH 125 inch wheelbase and the roadster cowl with folding windshield. see pics, I have included a pic of the original cars during the Brooklands Double Twelve.

 

  I also was able to obtain copy photos of the original cars, from the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu in the UK.

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Very nice. Thanks for sharing 

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I would like to encourage others to build a "Fair Grounds" style racer.  They are a lot of fun and can be inexpensive. Attached is one of my projects  built from a 1922 Studebaker that was beyond salvage  but a ideal start for a racer

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1 hour ago, DFeeney said:

I would like to encourage others to build a "Fair Grounds" style racer.  They are a lot of fun and can be inexpensive. Attached is one of my projects  built from a 1922 Studebaker that was beyond salvage  but a ideal start for a racer

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very pretty "baquet" super six. The wheels and the original radiator are very good. Thanks for sharing in this post.

 

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In 1930 the torque wrench hadn't been invented...or at least was not being applied to the automotive world. The torque specs can be figured using a torque spec chart. It's calculate on the basis of OD, thread, material and whether the threads are dry or oiled. For a 1930s car I'd use the "grade 5" numbers you will have to fill in the blanks. Here's a link...

 

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If that doesn't work, do a google search on "torque spec chart imperial bolts"

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