1929 DeSoto Arthur

Wooden Spoke Wheels - Make and model unknown

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This is my first post and I live in New Zealand.

I have a 1929 Desoto Six Model K and I purchased two wheels as spares while touring the South Island (in our modern) last year.  Unfortunately I did have enough knowledge at the time to check these were the correct wheels for my car.  They're not.

Would like to know what model these are for, so I can pass them onto someone else who may need them.

The hub size is 2 1/4" (58mm) - my Desoto ones are 2 1/2" (64mm).  Tyre is 4.75 - 5.00 - 19

Hopefully the photos I have taken will help to identify them.

Have also added a photo of my Desoto rim.

I still plan to restore them as I find that enjoyable and rewarding.

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A close up photo of the clamping lugs may help ID them, also any name on these lugs.

 

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Your rims look a lot  like Jaxon but not quite the same as any in my 1930 rim catalog.  The spare that looks like a  Kelsey, which is correct for early 29 Desoto . The lugs also look like Jaxon. GM used lots of Jaxon rims , but several other did as well, Chrysler, Jewett and Gardner to name a few.

For a positive I.D. you are going to have to remove a tire and tube and carefully examine the inside of the rim for any I.D. stampings. You will probably find both a Man. logo and a part number. Otherwise it is hard to be 100% accurate.

Greg in Canada

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I do not believe the wedges are Jaxon, the rim certainly is not.

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Your unknown rims ( wheels) appear to be Hayes 490 for Marmon 1926-1927 ( also from another source, some 1928 Durant 75), see first attached picture.

Catalog info shows 2 types of wheels originally on 1929 DeSoto. Kelsey-Hayes 689 and Clev Weld 25AB.

Your silver spare is clearly not a Clev Weld. I believe it is a Kelsey-Hayes 689 that has had the latch repaired with welded on sleeves to take a bolt that holds the ends of the rim aligned. Not an uncommon repair.

Hoping this is useful. Let me know if I can help further.

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The clamps/wedges are jaxon/motor wheel   used in lots of late 20s cars most popular is Chrysler.

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Regarding these wheels it may be worth noting that Arthur's DeSoto, like my 1929 Plymouth, will have been built in Canada.

 

It may have a bearing on the wheels fitted to it originally which may be different to those fitted to US production models.

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Thank you all so very much for you replies, much appreciated.  I have much to learn so this is an excellent forum for me. 

 

1. viv w - I have posted a photo of 6 rim clamping lugs - 4 from one wheel and two from another.  Hope this helps.

2. 1912Staver (Greg) -  I will remove the tyre if there no other way of identifying the make.  I have had help in removing a tyre from my Desoto but that resulted in destroying the latch.  Had the repair done which is now my spare.  Not over keen on doing that again.

3.  Laydon B - Thanks for the catalog details, most helpful.  Have had latch repairs on two rims.  One I help break when trying to fit the tyre and the spare was broken when I purchased the car.  Have included a photo.

4.  LI_BENTLEY - I have a friend who has a 1929 Chrysler so I will investigate and get back to you.  We are now in Covid-19 Alert Level 3 in NZ so I can't visit him until we go to a lower level.

5. nzcarnerd - You are correct - my car s/n is OW664L so it was built in Canada.

 

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Your clamping lugs appear to be C - 109 Kelsey Hayes. My catalog lists them as being used on 1928 Durant, 1927 - 28 Elcar , 1927 - 28 Locomobile 70, 1928 Star, 1927 -28 Marmon, 1927 - 28 Pierce Arrow.

For the rims the most likely ones given the 19 inch diameter are the Durant , Star and Marmon . I doubt that a large car like a Marmon would have used only 4 rim clamps, so that leaves Durant or Star as likely suspects.

 

Greg

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As the clamps seem to be for Durant or Star cars, it is most likely that these wheels may be for a Rugby, as that was the name used in the Colonies.

Viv.

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1 hour ago, viv w said:

As the clamps seem to be for Durant or Star cars, it is most likely that these wheels may be for a Rugby, as that was the name used in the Colonies.

Viv.

Yes, the Rugby was popular here and there are quite a few survivors.

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