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On 3/5/2021 at 9:22 AM, coachJC said:

From the MTFCA site. Not sure what make of car.

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Believe it or not, there almost certainly is a model T Ford hidden under that after-market kit car! About fifty companies offered after-market bodies, kits, and even turn-key complete cars for the Ford chassis in the late 1910s to mid 1920s. This one I suspect is a Bub kit, or turn-key completed car. There are a couple others that it could have been , however the Bub had a distinctive look almost unique to themselves. Polished aluminum hoods and that radiator shell was part of that look. The narrow cycle fenders were also a part of it on many of their cars. The bodies were higher quality than most, and kits or cars could be ordered in a wide variety of options. Morton and Brett/Speedway built some very similar bodies, and were much more common than the Bub bodies were. However, the wheels, fenders hood and radiator combination was almost a trademark of the Bub cars.

By the way, the wheels are Disteel wheels, notable by their three hub bolts. Disteel was one of dozens of companies manufacturing after-market wheels for Ford's model T. They also supplied heavier wheels for non-Fords, both after-market and OEM for automobile manufacturers.

 

Speedsters in general, and model T speedsters in particular were a major part of automotive history. Although the majority of them were crude home-built jobs that never got finished, there were thousands of high quality customs built and completed. Many of them driven extensively during their day.

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On 3/4/2021 at 6:40 AM, John_Mereness said:

Renault

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I had always thought the Silver Arrow one of the most beautiful cars ever built, but this one gives it a good run for the money. It almost looks like a hot rod built by one of the famous/infamous builders you see on tv for something to be shown at SEMA.

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On 12/25/2020 at 7:20 PM, Walt G said:

Renault 45 HP Reinastella ( note the star just above the emblem on the hood) The Reinastella was the largest series Renault made, there were three other series/models available on shorter wheelbases with smaller capacity engines.  . Car dates from ca. 1929 but photo was taken in Maine in 1937. Note the Marchal headlamps . Absolutely huge cars that you never see in person, even in Europe. Most of the larger Renaults that were imported to the USA were sold out of their New York City sales showroom and came in minus coachwork. Were fitted with bodies built here in the USA. Another story that needs to be told with period images and photographs to record the connection of Renault in the USA prior to WWII- I have all the period sales literature, instruction book, and photographs to do that . The big Renaults were like ocean liners on wheels.........

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This car belongs to the last series of Renault’s 45hp, with straight-six (9 liters) engine, type NM. Although it actually shows the star on the hood, it does not belong to the Reinastella family. Reinastella will come one year later, with a 7 liter straight-eight brand new engine.

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4 hours ago, 34LaSalleClubSedan said:

Stream line head lamps

Rotate those headlamps in daytime to protect the glass while you're hauling axxx...

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On 3/4/2021 at 10:34 AM, coachJC said:

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I recall seeing this picture in a '30's Life magazine.  The purpose was to create a draft in order for the rider to set a bicycle sped record.  I think that about 107 mph was attained if memory serves. The car is a sc '37 Cord 812, capable of doing that speed.

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On 3/5/2021 at 8:16 PM, TAKerry said:

I had always thought the Silver Arrow one of the most beautiful cars ever built, but this one gives it a good run for the money. It almost looks like a hot rod built by one of the famous/infamous builders you see on tv for something to be shown at SEMA.

 

Interesting you should say that in regard to both the Silver Arrow and SEMA. Here's a Silver Arrow being prepared for a SEMA display.

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4 hours ago, Joe West said:

Here are a couple of images from today’s Wall Street Journal.

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That second photo gets posted a lot and it has always looked fake to me.  Walter Thornton was a male model in NY in the late 20s early 30s known for posing with cars.  Not a rich investor.

 

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This photo of what appears to be a '30 or '31 Model A Ford shows the car with solid wheels rather than steel spoke wheels.  Also the right rear wheel looks different than the right front wheel.  Are these wheels an option or after market replacements?  Considering how dirty the vehicle is, paint appears to be scuffed and dinged, yet hard-to-come-by money at the time was used to replace the wheels and tires.  ?  Those tires definitely are not the type that came on a Ford.

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1 hour ago, Grimy said:

That's a 1934 "production" Silver Arrow like mine.  Do you have any more photos of it "in the white"?

I thought the silver arrow was a very limited production show/concept vehicle. May be thinking of another, either way they are both beautiful.

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31 minutes ago, TAKerry said:

thought the silver arrow was a very limited production show/concept vehicle. May be thinking of another, either way they are both beautiful.

The Silver Arrow "halo car" was built in five copies in 1933 only; three survive.  These were 4-door sedans on a 139" wheelbase powered by V-12 engines, and shared no sheet metal with any production Pierce-Arrow.  Price was reportedly $10,000 each.

 

In 1934 and 1935, Pierce produced a total of about 50 (at least 43 in 1934, at least 5 in 1935) 2-door sedans called "Silver Arrow coupes" which shared other 1934 Pierce front clips, and lacked the slab sides and other features of the halo cars.  These were on a 144" wheelbase and were available as either 8-cyl (base price $3,495) or 12-cyl ($3,895).  Today (and for the last half of the last century) the 1934-35 "coupes" are called "production" Silver Arrows to distinguish them from the very remarkable halo cars.  About 12 of the production SAs are known by the Pierce-Arrow Society to have survived.  I'm pretty sure that mine is the only one that comes out to play frequently--I've put 17,000 miles on it since acquiring it in 2006.

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West, I noticed the fender skirt against the wall in your first photo, and the second showing the skirt installed confirms my belief that this car is body number Y-7, an 8-cylinder car that was beautifully restored by Wes C. in Canada about 1988, but has been sent to auction a dozen or more times since the late 1990s.  Unfortunately, the unconscionably bland colors chosen for the restoration were two shades of pale gray; I don't know if the red-orange wheels were done at the time or if they were a later attempt to spice up the car's appearance.

 

I'm truly sorry -- no, make that aghast -- to see a V-8 mockup block in the engine compartment.  Aaarrgghhh!  The car weighs about 5,400 lbs with the straight 8, a couple of hundred more with the V-12.

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6 minutes ago, Grimy said:

West, I noticed the fender skirt against the wall in your first photo, and the second showing the skirt installed confirms my belief that this car is body number Y-7, an 8-cylinder car that was beautifully restored by Wes C. in Canada about 1988, but has been sent to auction a dozen or more times since the late 1990s.  Unfortunately, the unconscionably bland colors chosen for the restoration were two shades of pale gray; I don't know if the red-orange wheels were done at the time or if they were a later attempt to spice up the car's appearance.

 

I'm truly sorry -- no, make that aghast -- to see a V-8 mockup block in the engine compartment.  Aaarrgghhh!  The car weighs about 5,400 lbs with the straight 8, a couple of hundred more with the V-12.

 

Looks also to be on a custom chassis with independent front suspension.

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On 3/19/2020 at 9:15 AM, John_Mereness said:

Here is another really interesting Auburn shot

 

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This is the Beverly Hills city hall.

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On 3/7/2021 at 9:10 AM, Dave Henderson said:

I recall seeing this picture in a '30's Life magazine.  The purpose was to create a draft in order for the rider to set a bicycle sped record.  I think that about 107 mph was attained if memory serves. The car is a sc '37 Cord 812, capable of doing that speed.

   I've also seen that arrangement behind a Chrysler Airflow in that period.

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Plus the 75 Miles Saturday afternoon after I unloaded the car, and the extra 34 miles we went out of our way missing a turn in the tour book...(AJ tossed you under the bus on that one!)..........😝 and then there was the Sunday morning drive to Del Ray......44 miles.........So it was 943 from Monday to Sunday. 👍👍👍

 

 

I confess to not doing the actual math. It took 32 hours to get the Texas mud off the car! And I repainted the bottom of all four fenders from the gravel that looked like a few rounds of buckshot that took some of the paint with it. Overall a great tour.............whoever arranged it has my compliments. He did such a good job, I’m recruiting people for the next one. Spoke to Craig and Mary today, and recruited Melvin’s people also, and Perry’s in.................you better get busy!


I invite you down to put the missing 57 miles on it............how’s that for an invitation?

 

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Packard in California in 1930. Not sure if I haven't posted this, to many pages and images to go through.

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18 minutes ago, Walt G said:

Packard in California in 1930. Not sure if I haven't posted this, to many pages and images to go through.

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No......It’s new. Nice photo!

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1 hour ago, edinmass said:

Plus the 75 Miles Saturday afternoon after I unloaded the car, and the extra 34 miles we went out of our way missing a turn in the tour book...(AJ tossed you under the bus on that one!)..........😝 and then there was the Sunday morning drive to Del Ray......44 miles.........So it was 943 from Monday to Sunday. 👍👍👍

 

 

I confess to not doing the actual math. It took 32 hours to get the Texas mud off the car! And I repainted the bottom of all four fenders from the gravel that looked like a few rounds of buckshot that took some of the paint with it. Overall a great tour.............whoever arranged it has my compliments. He did such a good job, I’m recruiting people for the next one. Spoke to Craig and Mary today, and recruited Melvin’s people also, and Perry’s in.................you better get busy!


I invite you down to put the missing 57 miles on it............how’s that for an invitation?

 

 

 

Ed,  I asked about that turn,  I was told the guy at the front in the Rollston went the wrong way.

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29 minutes ago, alsancle said:

Ed,  I asked about that turn,  I was told the guy at the front in the Rollston went the wrong way.

NEVER follow the car in front if his/her path deviates from the official directions.  Sounds to me like a dozing-off navigator!

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15 minutes ago, Grimy said:

NEVER follow the car in front if his/her path deviates from the official directions.  Sounds to me like a dozing-off navigator!

 

Especially if it is Ed.

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1 minute ago, alsancle said:

 

Especially if it is Ed.


 

They call me “Special Ed”, and for the record.......the book was wrong. The navigator was young, smart, good looking, and charming.............I have nothing but respect for him!(Me)🤪

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18 minutes ago, Grimy said:

NEVER follow the car in front if his/her path deviates from the official directions.  Sounds to me like a dozing-off navigator!


 

For the record.........no one, and I mean no one follows me when I’m driving a J.........unless I allow it to happen.

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