Period images to relieve some of the stress

[Walt G 3,048]

8 months ago I started this thread hoping that it would give some of you something to look at and perhaps escape the stress of coping with a terrible health issue that has blanketed the world and brought the demise of so many people. In doing so it would allow us to escape to see the old vehicles we spend so much time with and enjoy the history of plus also  connect  us to life long friendships of fellow enthusiasts. We haven't been able to see a lot of our dear friends this year because of the lack of activities and I know for me that has been very sad indeed. Here are two items to add to the collection that may make some of you stay on the path of hope that one day our lives will return to the happy times of sharing our old used cars!  ( sorry I had to throw that in there!)

the Rolls Royce touring has a body by Connaught and the page is from a October 1929 Franklin Dealer's Bulletin that shows 5 custom body models that were to appear at the custom body salons that took place late in the year for the next years models/series of cars. These started in New York, then moved west to Chicago , San Francisco, and finally Los Angeles. 

Stay well all, hope we meet in person down the road , my sincere best to one and all. And very special thanks to AACA for letting this continue and all of you who have contributed.

Walt

[edinmass 11,370]

Let's keep it going.......and an interesting twist.......here are two photos of White cars on tour with the Army in late 1916 or early 1917. Some of the cars in the photos are the same year and series as my new 1917 White that I did the long thread on..........some are factory coachwork and a few are Rubay, others are 1916 Model 4-45"s. Enjoy......

Edited November 12, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history)

[edinmass 11,370]

[wayne sheldon 1,202]

Must be some good story to those two pictures of all the White automobiles. Like so many things of the era, I am not an expert in military history of the Great War, although I have read quite a lot about it and have some amount of collectables from that war. What I find so interesting in these two pictures, are the uniforms and the 'dress' of the several dignitaries that can be seen around the cars. Top hats (remarkably tall ones at that!) and tails suggest some important dignitaries or activities. The uniforms suggest French officers, and not just the run of the mill new recruits for the then current war. An expert would know specifics about the uniforms. The two men standing in front of the two large White touring cars are intriguing. The one man, leaning on his cane, has numerous medals on his chest, and an interesting hat. There must be some fantastic tales behind all that.

The two touring cars behind the two men look to be similar to your '17 White? Even the headlamps look similar. (Although the exact model may be different?)

[edinmass 11,370]

Wayne, I have the story........in detail. I will post how to look it up soon.

 

1915-1917 Franco-Anglo Financial Commission............

Edited November 13, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history)

[Walt G 3,048]

ED, great photos! the fellows posed before the cars give you an excellent reference on how to dress in proper attire when you take the car out for a ride or even better when you attend and AACA national meet Like Hershey next year !

[Tph479 93]

Hispano-Suiza J12. 574 ci V12 engine

[Tph479 93]

1934 Packard. Rare in that it has the steel disc wheels

[30DodgePanel 881]

On 11/12/2020 at 6:57 PM, Tph479 said:

Hispano-Suiza J12. 574 ci V12 engine

 

If they were going for sex appeal they nailed it...  especially with the dirt field back drop and all  

 

Beautiful car !

[twin6 966]

When things slow down, it's time for some Moxie...

[nzcarnerd 986]

On 11/13/2020 at 1:14 PM, edinmass said:

Wayne, I have the story........in detail. I will post how to look it up soon.

 

1915-1917 Franco-Anglo Financial Commission............

 

The beginning of the story is here - the story is mostly 1915-16 but I guess it was ongoing - but the visible plate on the White car on the right of the photo is 1917 (what state is that?). Were the plates issued mid year to mid year as they were here in NZ?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-French_Financial_Commission

[edinmass 11,370]

On 11/14/2020 at 10:25 AM, 30DodgePanel said:

 

If they were going for sex appeal they nailed it...  especially with the dirt field back drop and all  

 

Beautiful car !

What car?

[edinmass 11,370]

1 hour ago, nzcarnerd said:

 

The beginning of the story is here - the story is mostly 1915-16 but I guess it was ongoing - but the visible plate on the White car on the right of the photo is 1917 (what state is that?). Were the plates issued mid year to mid year as they were here in NZ?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-French_Financial_Commission

It ran till 1918. They toured all the bases looking at equipment and the men coming over. There is a book documenting the tour......with lots of photos.

[wayne sheldon 1,202]

Interesting and important history! 

Thank you both.

[Marty Roth 2,594]

On 11/12/2020 at 7:57 PM, Tph479 said:

574 ci V12 engine

 

Just a guess, 

but I believe the photo is more recent than the Hisso-

 

The car would have been in manufacture between 1931 - 1938, as I recall.

The cheesecake appears dressed in 1950s, or even early 1960s style.

 

Either way, both might be considered fast and attractive.

[edinmass 11,370]

Cheesecake........🤔, Marty....you are dating yourself!

[Pilgrim65 925]

On 9/22/2020 at 12:41 AM, edinmass said:

Surf’s up!

Great photo , but wonder did these amphibious cars really  travel fast enough in water to truly waterski? Just interested.

[edinmass 11,370]

I wasn’t Intrested in the car..........nice headlights.......on the young lady!

[1937hd45 3,205]

This was on the HAMB today, unique upholstery, someone can ID the car I'm sure. Bob 

[1937hd45 3,205]

A winter scene from the HAMB, Packard phaeton is starting to age. 

 

Bob 

[nzcarnerd 986]

22 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said:

This was on the HAMB today, unique upholstery, someone can ID the car I'm sure. Bob 

 

This one has done the rounds of several facebook pages as well. Apparently it is a 1927 Paige.

[bdc 259]

5 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

A winter scene from the HAMB, Packard phaeton is starting to age. 

 

Bob 

Is that a 1935 Cadillac on the right?

[wayne sheldon 1,202]

7 hours ago, 1937hd45 said:

This was on the HAMB today, unique upholstery, someone can ID the car I'm sure. Bob 

 

 

Yes, Paige, one of the larger models. 6-65, 6-72, 6-75, or 8-85. It looks to be a convertible coupe/cabriolet, so maybe the 6-75.

[twin6 966]

[twin6 966]

Another Pierce workhorse.

[edinmass 11,370]

A good friend spied a magazine on ebay and sent me this.......yes, I bought it.

[Walt G 3,048]

That P-A on Pike's Peak - say is that Ed in the back seat on the right side next to the Boopsie sisters of Boston? ( ya know Trixie Boopsie and Betty Boopsie)

[ericmac 623]

On 11/12/2020 at 9:11 AM, Walt G said:

8 months ago I started this thread hoping that it would give some of you something to look at and perhaps escape the stress of coping with a terrible health issue that has blanketed the world and brought the demise of so many people. In doing so it would allow us to escape to see the old vehicles we spend so much time with and enjoy the history of plus also  connect  us to life long friendships of fellow enthusiasts. We haven't been able to see a lot of our dear friends this year because of the lack of activities and I know for me that has been very sad indeed. Here are two items to add to the collection that may make some of you stay on the path of hope that one day our lives will return to the happy times of sharing our old used cars!  ( sorry I had to throw that in there!)

the Rolls Royce touring has a body by Connaught and the page is from a October 1929 Franklin Dealer's Bulletin that shows 5 custom body models that were to appear at the custom body salons that took place late in the year for the next years models/series of cars. These started in New York, then moved west to Chicago , San Francisco, and finally Los Angeles. 

Stay well all, hope we meet in person down the road , my sincere best to one and all. And very special thanks to AACA for letting this continue and all of you who have contributed.

Walt

I think the Locke Convertible Sedan was built in the 137 chassis. To me, that would be my Holy Grail car. I love the body style and the lines in general.  I can't help wondering if it still exists somewhere. Thanks for posting Walt.

[SC38DLS 1,547]

10 minutes ago, edinmass said:

A good friend spied a magazine on ebay and sent me this.......yes, I bought it.

The car, the magazine or both?  Lol

[Walt G 3,048]

Eric, when that page was printed in the Dealer's Bulletins in the end of October 1929 the new 1930 series 14 cars were just about being finished up to go in production. Sheet metal for the hood, shell etc was totally different from the 1929 series 13 cars.  Fenders similar in style but not an exact duplicate. I have only ever seen period Franklin material that indicated the Locke bodied conv. sedan was ever on the new series 14 chassis of 1930. I may have a photo of the Locke conv. sedan someplace ( not just artwork) but that may take a while to locate. If I do you will see it here. Locke did some very very fine design and builds of coach work, the Lincoln of that era , model L had the majority of their open body styles ( phaeton, roadster, conv coupes) built by Locke.  I am always happy to share when and what I can, hope to see some things I come up with go into future issues of the Air Cooled News of the Franklin club again after an absence of some years.

Walt

[58L-Y8 1,586]

31 minutes ago, twin6 said:

Another Pierce workhorse.

After their jobs ferrying sightseers up Pikes Peak, because of their reputation as a tough chassis, they were bought by the Rio Grande Sothern Railroad in the southwestern Colorado to covert to railbuses.

[Walt G 3,048]

Definitely a full CCCA classic, note the custom accessory grille guard up front or is it a cow catcher guard?  We should look forward to those being reproduced now in stainless steel and see them on numerous cars at future concours. They would be especially useful on tours through bovine country.

[alsancle 4,774]

2 hours ago, edinmass said:

A good friend spied a magazine on ebay and sent me this.......yes, I bought it.

 

 

You waited 24 hours or it took you that long to find your wallet.  I almost bought it to hold it hostage.

[edinmass 11,370]

16 minutes ago, alsancle said:

 

 

You waited 24 hours or it took you that long to find your wallet.  I almost bought it to hold it hostage.

 

Unlike some other people, I actually have a job and work. I didn’t have access to my eBay account at home, so I had to wait. As far as holding something hostage.........unless I’m mistaken I have two of your items here your rather attached too.

[edinmass 11,370]

1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said:

After their jobs ferrying sightseers up Pikes Peak, because of their reputation as a tough chassis, they were bought by the Rio Grande Sothern Railroad in the southwestern Colorado to covert to railbuses.

 

The Pikes Peak photo is common, there was a fleet of twenty five Pierce Arrow’s from the Broadmore Hotel that hauled sightseers of the mountain road. Tens of thousands of photos were taken at the top of the hill, with a chalk board usually giving the date on the running board. Many, many cars from their fleet still survive, and are still being found. They would stamp their own car number on the frame horn to identify it in house. I had one of their cars in my garage for five years.

[58L-Y8 1,586]

Ed:   Were they primarily the large chassis models or 80/81's as well?

[edinmass 11,370]

All years, all series, up till 1931 for open cars, closed cars after that. Open cars remained till after the war. They were built with special gearing in the rear ended and transmission for climbing. 

Edited November 22, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history)

[edinmass 11,370]

5 hours ago, Walt G said:

That P-A on Pike's Peak - say is that Ed in the back seat on the right side next to the Boopsie sisters of Boston? ( ya know Trixie Boopsie and Betty Boopsie)

Yup, that’s me in a seersucker suit..........except I would prefer a Series 36 with a one off body by LeBaron. Notice the date, car is a 1925 model, and it’s taken in 1931.

Edited November 22, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history)

[Grimy 1,528]

42 minutes ago, edinmass said:

Notice the date, car is a 1925 model, and it’s taken in 1931.

I'll question the 1925 year model, Ed, because it lacks 4-wheel brakes which became standard in mid-1924.

[edinmass 11,370]

I had my glasses on George. But the damn phone is so small I couldn’t tell. The size of the doors made me think it was a small car. If there’s no front brakes it must be a series 33.