edinmass 12,604 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Sorry Walt.......just having a bit of off topic fun, removed my off topic post. đź‘Ť 1 Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 12,604 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Cunningham car....more photos and the story from “The Spur”. Back seat photo is with radio cover closed.   Edited October 3, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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cessna195 49 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Spark Plug with its tin box container. Kopper King Spark Plug.  The Sharp Spark Plug Co. Cleveland OH.  John  2 Link to post Share on other sites
George Cole 960 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 8:43 PM, edinmass said: Sorry Walt.......just having a bit of off topic fun, removed my off topic post. đź‘Ť Likewise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,341 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Thanks guys I appreciate your understanding why I left those comments. Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 12,604 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The great thing here is there is almost never any bad intent........when I posted off topic, I didn't realize what thread I was posting in, somehow the main screen was in another format, which I only figured out after Walt's comments. It was set up with all the junk on the right, and comments on the left. Another instance of upgrades to the site that I never knew were done....until I accidently hit the different format button. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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Walt G 3,341 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 OK my friends all is good! Today I am sharing a few obscurities and will give you a day to decide what they are - one hint - they are all European. Give us your thoughts . I know a few of you are most likely thinking - where does he find this stuff? I have been collecting over half a century, had friends who were knowledgeable looking for me in Europe as well as the USA for decades. In England when I visited there I had access to collections that made me aware that some cars and coach builders even existed. I REALLY ENJOY sharing what I have managed to acquire , thanks to AACA I can. Walt 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 12,604 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The middle car is very similar to a 404 Peugeot.......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
58L-Y8 1,845 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The last of the three is a 1937-'39 Opel Admiral four door cabriolet, this body style a factory standard offering, although its styling suggest a coachbuilder designer input. The reason these stick in mind is the similarity to the 1938-'39 Hupmobile E & H series with the headlights integrated into the hood-sides. Wonder who copied who? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,341 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 I don't want any of the people who enjoy Stu D. Baker cars to feel left out so this photo is for them 1 Link to post Share on other sites
John_Mereness 4,518 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Walt G said: I don't want any of the people who enjoy Stu D. Baker cars to feel left out so this photo is for them Double your pleasure double your fun !!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
alsancle 5,268 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, edinmass said: The middle car is very similar to a 404 Peugeot..........  My first thought was Healey Silverstone, but I'm not sure.  1 Link to post Share on other sites
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alsancle 5,268 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, John_Mereness said:   I wonder how many were made? Looking at period pictures at least 2 or 3.   2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Johan Boltendal 20 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The first car could be an Austro Daimler the second a Peugeot D' Arlmat Link to post Share on other sites
alsancle 5,268 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Johan Boltendal said: The first car could be an Austro Daimler the second a Peugeot D' Arlmat  With the English Bristol in the background I was thinking post war British auto show. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,341 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 A.J. a pencil note on the back of the photo says 1950 so it is just postwar 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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Walt G 3,341 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Ok identity time for the three period photos I posted: Steve has it correct about the conv. sedan that it is an Opel Admiral , the race car at the automobile show is a Frazer Nash LeMans type, and the first one is a Minerva ( yes the shell over the radiator is not what one is used to seeing) with a body by Alexis Kellner Carrossier of Berlin , Germany. This photo is in a hard bound soft felt covered presentation catalog that was in a dealership or at Kellner's factory. that same type shell is also pictured on several other Minervas in that book , all on Minerva chassis and a penciled in date says the year is 1913. So many photographs/images never before seen and so little time. It is just incredible what was designed and built and most of us have never seen. Not just in the coach builders promotional material to entice people to want to buy their efforts/product but magazines most people here in the USA are not familiar with like OMNIA , a periodical in France that was monthly , with many pages, issued from 1920 thru 1936 ( I have nearly a full run except for about 4 issues for 1936) . La Carroserie magazine, auto show issues of L'Illustration magazine - and they had a great representation of custom coachwork on chassis of American manufacture. Walt Link to post Share on other sites
58L-Y8 1,845 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Walt G said: ...", the race car at the automobile show is a Frazer Nash LeMans type, and the first one is a Minerva ( yes the shell over the radiator is not what one is used to seeing) with a body by Alexis Kellner Carrossier of Berlin , Germany. This photo is in a hard bound soft felt covered presentation catalog that was in a dealership or at Kellner's factory. that same type shell is also pictured on several other Minervas in that book , all on Minerva chassis and a penciled in date says the year is 1913. Walt: 1) What would be the year range of the Frazer-Nash LeMans type? 2) Was that deep-V'ed radiator shell typical of what Minerva used before the style with which we're generally familiar?  A comment on the Opel Admiral styling: Certainly Harley Earl had influence on Opel styling in general being a GM operation then. But, its interesting the headlights faired into the hood-sides were closely identified with the Hupmobile Aerodynamic, yet no American GM displayed that feature.  Steve  Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,341 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Steve The photo of the Frazer-Nash is dated 1950 on the back in pencil. the Minerva radiator shell we are all familiar with ( I think was one of the most attractively styled in the car industry) was what was being used when that car was bodied by Kellner. In the sales book/album both are shown ! some with the "normal" styling we are used to seeing and some with that pointed look. It is the only time I have ever seen that pointed look so I am wondering if the coach body builder Kellner decided that's what they wanted ? Walt Link to post Share on other sites
58L-Y8 1,845 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Walt: I'd surmised the Frazer-Nash might have been around 1950 by the Bristol 401 displayed in the background. This Curbside Classic article quite affectively details their history: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automotive-history-british-deadly-sins-high-brow-hybrids-part-2-bristol-603-britannia-blenheim-arrested-development/  Of the Minerva, perhaps the elegantly-styled 'normal' radiator shell wasn't considered prestigious enough for some customers who demanded the deeply-V'ed pointed style that mimicked the look of another higher prestige maker of the times. I'm thinking of those Uppercu Cadillac buyer who had the "Rolls-Royce-styled" radiator shell to give their cars a greater touch of 'class'.   Steve Link to post Share on other sites
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