edinmass 13,536 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: Do we have any idea who the coachbuilder was of this Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost Cape Top Sport Phaeton? Its pretty wild for that timeframe, note the upswept cowl, descending belt-line, low three-piece windshield and shape of the rear door opening. Brewster....photo was labeled. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
58L-Y8 2,096 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, edinmass said: Brewster....photo was labeled. Pretty wild for Brewster, Did young Tom Hibbard and Ray Dietrich slip a few of their designs into the selection that Willy Brewster didn't notice... Maybe this was what got them fired so they decided to start their own automotive architecture endeavor... Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Hubbard was there sometime between Rubay in Cleveland, and leaving in 1921 to open LeBaron .....couldn’t have been very long. The Rollston boys also got the boot. Small world in NYC during the post war depression. (WW1) Everyone knew all the other players. Edited September 22, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, edinmass said: Brewster....photo was labeled. Notice the Skiff influences with the cowl vents, split windshield, and the crazy rear door. Not your off the shelf design. Very unique and unusual for that firm. Have money? Yes, we can build it! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 OK, tonight's offering's: the Duesenberg sedan photograph was taken in Baltimore, Md. and the snapshot I scanned this from has to have been taken in the early 1950s at the latest The Hispano Suiza conv coupe has a 1949 NY license plate on it and was at one time owned by writer Keith Marvin. The Pierce Arrow sedan has a 1949 California plate on it and it is noted on the back in pencil the name George Riggs and that it was a 1933 seven passenger sedan and model was 1236- does that mean it is a 12 cylinder? I really have way to much stuff.....................but it is fun🤨 I hope everyone looking at these continue to have some relief of the stress. This thread is now over 6 months old and I am sure I have all the moderators a bit frazzled , sincere thanks to all. Walt 3 Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The Pierce is a V-12 on the short chassis. I believe it may have been sold to a friend on mine, now gone, in the San Diego area.......I don’t have my notes available. It could also belong to a friend up in the LA area. Not too common of a car, and with a bit of effort we can track it down. Link to post Share on other sites
alsancle 5,871 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, Walt G said: OK, tonight's offering's: the Duesenberg sedan photograph was taken in Baltimore, Md. and the snapshot I scanned this from has to have been taken in the early 1950s at the latest The Hispano Suiza conv coupe has a 1949 NY license plate on it and was at one time owned by writer Keith Marvin. The Pierce Arrow sedan has a 1949 California plate on it and it is noted on the back in pencil the name George Riggs and that it was a 1933 seven passenger sedan and model was 1236- does that mean it is a 12 cylinder? I really have way to much stuff.....................but it is fun🤨 I hope everyone looking at these continue to have some relief of the stress. This thread is now over 6 months old and I am sure I have all the moderators a bit frazzled , sincere thanks to all. Walt nice. Derham Arlington? Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Matt......here you go......... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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edinmass 13,536 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The old man, “The Master of Precision.” 1 Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Cadillac Carl.......interesting trim on this one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
8E45E 1,427 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 hours ago, edinmass said: Cadillac Carl.......interesting trim on this one. A color photo would reveal if it was owned by the CEO of Wonder Bread. Craig 2 Link to post Share on other sites
John_Mereness 5,026 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 21 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said: Do we have any idea who the coachbuilder was of this Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost Cape Top Sport Phaeton? Its pretty wild for that timeframe, note the upswept cowl, descending belt-line, low three-piece windshield and shape of the rear door opening. Sidenote: This is not a RR - it is a Roamer or something like that. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 The caption on this small snapshot says "Hispano-Suiza KC 1938" obviously the photo was taken in Europe someplace and I think the car on the right is a Peugeot ???? Any comments? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
kfle 485 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, John_Mereness said: Sidenote: This is not a RR - it is a Roamer or something like that. Here is the Roamer ad for the Victoria model. I thought that Roamer used Rubay bodies according to their ads. Edited September 23, 2020 by kfle (see edit history) 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 The last for today - perhaps this week. Anyway the photo of the Hudson ( conv.?) coupe was dated 1944 and print was processed in Quincy, Mass. the Rolls-Royce photo notes it is a 1926 Silver Ghost Opera coupe, and was taken by W.L. Snyder of University Heights, Ohio , no date but my guess is pre WWII or just postwar as the size/style of the paper and print was not used at least since the early 1950s. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
58L-Y8 2,096 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, John_Mereness said: Sidenote: This is not a RR - it is a Roamer or something like that. How about that!!! Decades beyond its time, and the pretentious Roamer is still fooling people!!! Oy Vey! I shoulda known!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, Walt G said: The last for today - perhaps this week. Anyway the photo of the Hudson ( conv.?) coupe was dated 1944 and print was processed in Quincy, Mass. the Rolls-Royce photo notes it is a 1926 Silver Ghost Opera coupe, and was taken by W.L. Snyder of University Heights, Ohio , no date but my guess is pre WWII or just postwar as the size/style of the paper and print was not used at least since the early 1950s. Bill Snyder of Ohio was a good friend and recently passed away. His wife is still active in the CCCA. H was a Marmon 16 and Stutz guy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Ed , I knew Bill and Christine Snyder well, I was active and belonged to CCCA when they did - I wondered if this was his car or not but if so it was many many decades ago and I don't recall him mentioning a RR in our conversation. Link to post Share on other sites
Fossil 564 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Walt G said: Rolls-Royce photo notes it is a 1926 Silver Ghost Opera coupe, and was taken by W.L. Snyder of University Heights, Ohio , no date but my guess is pre WWII My guess is your right and maybe a little earlier as I'm not seeing any power lines or poles in the background. Any kind of street lights either. Link to post Share on other sites
dictator27 175 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Walt G said: The caption on this small snapshot says "Hispano-Suiza KC 1938" obviously the photo was taken in Europe someplace and I think the car on the right is a Peugeot ???? Any comments? Car on the right is an early rear engined Renault 750 (aka 4CV)). In production 1947-61. Later ones had a simpler "grille" but I'm not sure when the change occurred. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Casper Friederich 137 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 7 hours ago, dictator27 said: Car on the right is an early rear engined Renault 750 (aka 4CV)). In production 1947-61. Later ones had a simpler "grille" but I'm not sure when the change occurred. The change occured in 1954:https://classiccarcatalogue.com/RENAULT_1954.html Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_a 405 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) On 9/15/2020 at 10:58 PM, 1937hd45 said: Walt, Thank you for mentioning the dual rear wheels, helped jolt my memory. That is General Pershing's Locomobile his WWI ride, here it is today. Bob I found a February 2nd, 1919 newspaper article with a photo of it and who his driver was: ... Edited September 24, 2020 by jeff_a (see edit history) 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_a 405 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Here's a Peerless, a Lincoln and a Cadillac from Theater Magazine, Jan., 1925: Edited September 25, 2020 by jeff_a (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_a 405 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Gee, that worked...I'll try this mystery car. The radiator mascot looks very Gardner, but I can't place the car. I ordered an illustration of a '26 Peerless Boat Tail Roadster at the Tatnuck Country Club from Walter Miller at autolit.com just before he closed the business....and he stuck in for free this image. Edited September 25, 2020 by jeff_a (see edit history) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Thanks Jeff! Yes, The Theater magazine , as well as The Spur and Country Life were all society magazines in the 1920s and early 1930s , large format the size of the Saturday Evening Post magazine of the same era and just about all had pages printed on coated stock paper - that allows great reproduction of photographs and today makes it easier to look at them. Matte finish paper was less expensive and had more acid content so deteriorated faster, just like newsprint. Today's lesson on paper types and sources to seek automotive information in non automotive publications is now over. Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_a 405 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 The woman with the Four-Passenger Coupe' in the top photo is way before our time....but most remember her from her role as Glinda the Good Witch in The Wizard of Oz. Link to post Share on other sites
keiser31 5,998 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, jeff_a said: Gee, that worked...I'll try this mystery car. The radiator mascot looks very Gardner, but I can't place the car. I ordered an illustration of a '26 Peerless Boat Tail Roadster at the Tatnuck Country Club from Walter Miller at autolit.com just before he closed the business....and he stuck in for free this image. Looks to be a 1926 Gardner 8 cylinder car. Edited September 25, 2020 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) A couple for the weekend: The front of the Isotta Fraschini typo 8 wears a 1938 New Jersey license plate and has a much later bumper and bumper guards. the Lincoln model L touring car is from a tiny snapshot (yellow marks are from scotch tape from 70 years ago) the Cadillac V16 limousine is most likely in Canada as a handwritten note also says on the back Gordon Fairbanks. Edited September 26, 2020 by Walt G typo (see edit history) 2 Link to post Share on other sites
K8096 215 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 4:02 PM, Walt G said: Ed , I knew Bill and Christine Snyder well, I was active and belonged to CCCA when they did - I wondered if this was his car or not but if so it was many many decades ago and I don't recall him mentioning a RR in our conversation. Walt, Bill Snyder owned that Rolls coupe in the early 50s. The photo was taken in the driveway of the house he grew up in. The car still exists somewhere and has been restored. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
John_Mereness 5,026 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Walt G said: Very rare V-16 body style and quite attractive too - notice it i a 1934 with the bi-plane bumpers, the hard metal roof, and also the lack of side mounted spare tires. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Walt G 3,772 Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Mercer - have more photos of this same car taken at the same time, all I need to do is find them. Strange reflection in the front door, not sure what was near it enough to pick up the ? image. I love the rear spare tire carrier, note how low to the ground the bottom metal shield is that cups the tire. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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twin6 1,200 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 7:09 PM, edinmass said: Two Springfield Mass cars.......very special. First needs no explanation, the second is a Knox Waterless, AKA “Old Porcupine” Second car is a White steamer, a model A or B, built in Cleveland (but maybe it was in Springfield when the photo was taken). Link to post Share on other sites
edinmass 13,536 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, twin6 said: Second car is a White steamer, a model A or B, built in Cleveland (but maybe it was in Springfield when the photo was taken). Cant argue with that.......I have no clue, even though I’m a Knox club member for twenty years. 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
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