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Brian Charles

 

I was hoping I could get some help identifying this car in the photos below. The photos are of New England landscape artist Robert Strong Woodward sometime in the 1920s.

 

Brian Charles

Curator for the Woodward Estate

 

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Studebaker Light 6 1921-23

Circa 1922 Studebaker EJ Light Six roadster.

1923 or 1924 Studebaker Model EM Light Six Three Passenger Roadster. There is no way to distinguish between those two years with the photos you have though. The reason it is not a 1922 (or earlier) is that the cowl lamps are set into the windshield frame

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Cord Crunch on long island pre WWII era. ( most likely took place in the Mineola-Garden City area)

The L29 convertible sedan was a 360 degree roll over. note the neat gas pumps in the immediate background as well as the Auburn conv. sedan and the circa 1936 Ford(?) . this photo would have been taken when the Ford was nearly new.

The 810-812 sedan was most likely brand new when this photo was taken and I am guessing the well dressed , but very distressed lady standing next to the 1930-31 Buick to the right either was driving the Cord or the Buick. Roads are wet so seems to have happened in poor weather. It was a pretty hard impact to bend the chassis on the Buick.

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5 minutes ago, Walt G said:

Cord Crunch on long island pre WWII era. ( most likely took place in the Mineola-Garden City area)

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Notice there is an Auburn Phaeton behind the wrecked Cord Phaeton

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I usually stay of of the wreck photos as it did not take much for someone to die, but ...

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Description 4 photographs of wrecked Auburn automobile, Southern California, 1934. "Subject: Auburn, File #513840; Client: Universal Auto Ins[urance], Mr. Ritter;Original Print Order: 2 ea[ch]; Size: 8x10; Finish: gl[ossy]; Job: 04-25-160; Job 1934" -- on envelope front. Operator's Report Name: Dean; 4 OriginalPhotographs--Size: 8x10; Amount: 9.00" -- on envelope back.
   
Subject (Corporate Name) Auburn Automobile; Universal Auto Insurance
   
Photographer Dick Whittington Studio
Publisher (of the Digital Version) University of Southern California. Libraries
Date created 1934
   
Format B/W Nitrate; 5x7 in.
Format (aacr2) 4 photographs: b&w, negative, 5x7 in. in envelope
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This Auburn was taken to the dealership - all the background cars are Auburn's too.

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Title
Auburn sedan, Getchel & Son Incorporated owners, Southern California, 1934
Creator
Dick Whittington Studio 
Date Created and/or Issued
1934 
Publication Information
University of Southern California. Libraries 
Description
3 photographs of wrecked Auburn sedan in garage, Southern California, 1934. "Subject: Auburn sedan, Getchel & Son Inc[orporated] owners 
Client: Loyalty Group, Mr. Lapie 
Original Print Order: 2 ea[ch] 
Size: 8x10 
Finish: gl[ossy] 
Year: 1934 
Job: 12-29-150" -- on envelope front. "Name: Dean 
3 Original Photographs - Size: 8x10 
In City: 7.00" -- on envelope back. 
 
Format
3 photographs: b&w, negative, 5x7 in. in envelope 
B/W Nitrate 
5x7 in. 
photographs 
negatives 
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Title
Auburn sedan, Joe A. McLoud, assured, Southern California, 1934
Creator
Dick Whittington Studio 
Date Created and/or Issued
1934 
Publication Information
University of Southern California. Libraries 
Contributing Institution
University of Southern California Digital Library 
Collection
"Dick" Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987 
Description
2 photographs of wrecked automobile, Southern California, 1934. "Subject: Auburn sedan, Joe A. McLoud, assured 
Client: Aetna Ins[urance] Co[mpany], McWilliams 
Original Print Order: 2 ea[ch] 
Size: 8x10 
Finish: gl[ossy] 
Year: 1934 
Job: 7-25-87" -- on envelope front. "Operator's Report Name: Henry 
2 Original Photographs- Size: 8x10 
Amount: 5.00" -- on envelope back. 
Format
2 photographs: b&w, negative, 5x7 in. in envelope 
B/W Nitrate 
5x7 in. 
photographs 
negatives 
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Title
Auburn, Bill Hatter, Buick, Paul Wilson, Southern California, 1932
Creator
Dick Whittington Studio 
Date Created and/or Issued
1932 
Publication Information
University of Southern California. Libraries 
Contributing Institution
University of Southern California Digital Library 
Collection
"Dick" Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987 
Description
5 photographs of two damaged cars, Southern California, 1932. "Subject: Auburn, Bill Hatter, Buick, Paul Wilson 
Client: Union Indemnity, Holscher 
Original Print Order: 3 ea[ch] 
Size: 8x10 
Finish: gl[ossy] 
Job: 1-4-10 
Year: 1932" -- on envelope front. " Operator's Report (Names): Frank 
Original Photographs-Size: 5-8x10 interior 
Amount: 10.00" -- on envelope back. 
Format
5 photographs: b&w, negative, 5x7 in. in envelope 
B/W Nitrate 
5x7 in. 
photographs 
negatives 
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Title
Wrecked Auburn, Southern California, 1933
Creator
Dick Whittington Studio 
Date Created and/or Issued
1933 
Publication Information
University of Southern California. Libraries 
Contributing Institution
University of Southern California Digital Library 
Collection
"Dick" Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987 
Description
Photograph of wrecked automobile, Southern California, 1933. "Subject: Wrecked Auburn 
Client: Cha[rle]s Heisler, 1308 Commercial Ex. b[ui]ld[in]g 
Original Print Order: 2 
Size: 8x10 
Finish: gl[ossy] 
Year: 1933 
Job: 2-14-58" -- on envelope front. "Operator's Report Name: Joe 
1-- 8x10 
Amount: 3.00 
Extra Charges: Southwest Auto w[or]ks" -- on envelope back. 
Format
1 photograph: b&w, negatives, 5x7 in. in envelope 
B/W Nitrate 
5x7 in. 
photographs 
negatives 
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Title
Auburn sedan, Joseph Henyan, owner, Southern California, 1931
Creator
Dick Whittington Studio 
Date Created and/or Issued
1931 
Publication Information
University of Southern California. Libraries 
Contributing Institution
University of Southern California Digital Library 
Collection
"Dick" Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987 
Description
3 photographs of wrecked Auburn sedan, Southern California, 1931. "Subject: Auburn sedan, Jos[eph] Henyan, owner 
Client: Commercial Casualty Co., R.J. Lapic 
Original print order: 1 ea[ch] 
Size: 8x10 
Finish: glossy 
Re-order 1 ea[ch] 
Finish: gl[ossy] 
Year: 1931 
Job: 6-23-130" -- on envelope front. "Extra charges: R.J. Lapic 
Ounces of flash powder: 2 at 85, 1.70 
Original photographs-Size: 3 - 8x10, In City, 3.00 
Operator's report (Name): Frank" -- on envelope back. 
Format
3 photographs: b&w, negative, 5x7 in. in envelope 
B/W Nitrate 
5x7 in. 
photographs 
negatives 
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I bet this was an interesting LA based Accident - Mercedes Sedan hits a a Packard or Visa Versa

 

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Title
Mercedes sedan, Packard roadster, F.H. Hinst vs. Bertram Millhauser, Southern California, 1934
Creator
Dick Whittington Studio 
Date Created and/or Issued
1934 
Publication Information
University of Southern California. Libraries 
Contributing Institution
University of Southern California Digital Library 
Collection
"Dick" Whittington Photography Collection, 1924-1987 
Rights Information
Contact: Special Collections, Doheny Memorial Library, Libraries, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189; specol@usc.edu 
Doheny Memorial Library, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0189 
For uses other than private, contact USC Libraries Special Collections at the e-mail given 
USC Libraries Special Collections 
specol@usc.edu 
Description
3 photographs of two wrecked automobiles, Southern California, 1934. "Subject: Mercedes Sedan, Packard R[oa]dster, F.H. Hinst Vs. Bertram Millhauser 
Client: Aetna Ins[urance] Co., MacWilliams 
Original Print Order: 2 ea[ch] 
Size: 8x10 
Finish: gl[ossy] 
Year: 1934 
Job: 7-19-62" -- on envelope front. "Operator's Report Name: Joe 
3 Original Photographs-- Size: 8x10 
two locations 
Amount: 10.00" -- on envelope back. 
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Some of the auto accidents photos can be tough to view, however, the damage can be interesting to view.  Perhaps police officers, highway patrol officers, accident investigators on this forum would find these accident photos interesting.  No, it is not enjoyable to see this wrecked Cord L-29, but it is interesting to see the damage sustained by the vehicle, and guesstimate how the accident occurred.  In the case of this Cord, the damage suggests a left-hand curve of the road, a fairly steep ditch, with the front end ramming an embankment, resulting in the car flipping over and rolling.  The virtually bald looking right front tire may or may not have been a contributing factor.

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This is a fairly famous photo being from book Olympian Cars - Stutz Monte Carlo - Weymann

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Title Wrecked Stutz - H. S. Krutzen, owner and assured, Southern California, 1935
Description 2 photographs of wrecked automobile, Southern California, 1935. "Subject: Wrecked Stutz - H. S. Krutzen, owner and assured; Agency: Bill to Fogel andBeman, c/o F. E. Jordan, 1211 Pac[ific] National B[ui]ld[in]g; Client: Harry Parker, Mr. Jordan; Original Print Order: 1 ea[ch], 3 of #1; Size: 8x10; Finish:gl[ossy]; Job: 2-11-60; Year: 1935" -- on envelope front. "Operator's Report Name: Dean; Original Photographs-Size: 2- 8x10 int[erior]; Amount: 5.00" -- onenvelope back.
Subject (lcsh) Automobiles
Subject (Corporate Name) Stutz
Subject (Personal Name) Parker, Harry
Jordan
Krutzen, H. S.
Dean
Geographic Subject (State) California
Geographic Subject (Country) USA
Geographic Subject (Region) California, Southern
Coverage date 1935
Photographer Dick Whittington Studio
Publisher (of the Digital Version) University of Southern California. Libraries
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Pantages crash scene

Juro Rokumoto, who was out riding with his family in this Ford, was killed when their auto collided with a Stutz Coupe, driven by Lois Pantages, on Sunset Boulevard at Serrano Avenue in Hollywood. A doll belonging to one of the Rokunoto children is seen lower left. Photograph dated October 3, 1929. 

 

Order Number 00067037
Title Evidence of Pantages accident
Collection ID Herald Examiner Collection
Location/Accession HE box 1596
Date 1929
Physical Description 1 photograph :b&w
Notes Photograph was edited for publication purposes.
Description The prosecution will introduce this photo of Mrs. Lois Pantages' expensive Stutz Coupe, which is being held at the police department garage. Its front end was crushed after collided with a car belonging to anowner with the last name of Rokumoto. The state alleges Mrs. Pantages was driving while intoxicated at the time of the crash. Photograph dated September 4, 1929.
Subject Rokumoto, Juro--Death and burial.
Pantages, Lois--Trials, litigation, etc.
Stutz automobile.
Automobiles--California--Los Angeles.
Trials (Murder)--California--Los Angeles.
Traffic accidents--California--Los Angeles.
Herald-Examiner Collection photographs.
Format Photographic prints
Reproduction Information Images available for reproduction and use. Please see the Ordering & Use page at http://tessa.lapl.org/OrderingUse.html for additional information.
Sub-Collection Name Los Angeles Herald Examiner Photo Collection
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22 minutes ago, LCK81403 said:

Some of the auto accidents photos can be tough to view, however, the damage can be interesting to view.  Perhaps police officers, highway patrol officers, accident investigators on this forum would find these accident photos interesting.  No, it is not enjoyable to see this wrecked Cord L-29, but it is interesting to see the damage sustained by the vehicle, and guesstimate how the accident occurred.  In the case of this Cord, the damage suggests a left-hand curve of the road, a fairly steep ditch, with the front end ramming an embankment, resulting in the car flipping over and rolling.  The virtually bald looking right front tire may or may not have been a contributing factor.

 

Some of the photos are glass plate negatives too and digitized in ways that allow you to enlarge and see what color a bolt is or ... (so I suspect they could help someone with a restoration via little details).  Yesterday, I for example was looking at what a non-accident photo and for fun of it enlarged the tire valve stem cap for an L-29 Cord.   

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I remember gasoline dispensers like this.  My father worked at a station that had devices like this.  Years later when I lived in a suburb of Athens, Greece, our local gasoline station was busted by the Greek police.  The station had gravity feed pumps similar to those in the photo, but the station proprietor had installed a tube inside the pump that bled off some of the gasoline and returned it to his storage tank.  In that way we customers were continually cheated as we downloaded fuel.

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John, if you keep posting all the wrecked Auburn photos, you may depress the current resale market............🤔

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Not a wrecked car, but horrible to even think about having an accident in a car with the petrol tank in the engine compartement. 1934-36 Steyr 100, then the entry level model. Pillarless four door body neither mine cup of tea.

Quite lovely rear-view with spare wheel cover and split window although

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Just now, edinmass said:

John, if you keep posting all the wrecked Auburn photos, you may depress the current resale market............🤔

That is all I know of - there are some wreck photos of Frank Lloyd Wright's L-29 Phaeton but will leave that to someone else (as mentioned - just depressing photos). 

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53 minutes ago, edinmass said:

John, if you keep posting all the wrecked Auburn photos, you may depress the current resale market............🤔

Ah, but if the market goes down enough, maybe some of us "newbie's" could jump in.

Would that be a bad thing ?

 

Present company excepted, as my barn is full..............

 

Mike in Colorado

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The Delage is in Europe - can anyone looking at this tell us  who the coach builder was. and also the series ? Is it a D8?

The Bentley photo was a very small snapshot , taken in 1926 in New York City, I am thinking a 3 1/2 litre? The car parked on the street behind it seems to be a Lincoln model L

sign on the front of the building across the street says"  "Artists'  ". I believe the Bentley sales /dealer at this era was on the street immediately west of ( next to)  Grand Central Station

at the north end of the block. As of about 15 years ago the location was the home to a restaurant but they hadn't destroyed the facade so you could imagine new Bentley's on display for all to see.

More useless old car/dealership information that remains in my mind. I can't remember what pills each day I am supposed to take but can tell you where they sold Hispano-Suizas in Manhattan .😬

Thanks again to AACA and all of you who are putting up with this old photo thread.

Walt

 

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2 hours ago, FLYER15015 said:

Ah, but if the market goes down enough, maybe some of us "newbie's" could jump in.

Would that be a bad thing ?

 

Present company excepted, as my barn is full..............

 

Mike in Colorado

Don't look for the market to fall too much on ACD products - and there are already plenty of newbie's in our club and it is absolutely fantastic (we have incredibly active and age diverse membership). Also, the cars rarely change hands outside of the Club as not too hard to raise your hand and get top dollar.   Interestingly, there are not too many cars put in our club newsletter or website either - it tends to be a knowing people thing and asking around.    That said, I assume the current state of the market will drive out into the open some optimistic projects and .... 

 

This 1932 was advertised on the Club website, was endoreed by poster, and sounds to be a good car (it popped up on eBay this week too).  

It's drawbacks appear to be wooden wheels with rear mount spare and no rumbleseat

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-Auburn/184369347345

 

 

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21 hours ago, Casper Friederich said:

1933-35 Steyr 430 with Rumble seat, based on the Porsche designed Steyr 30. Only 1250 built, that includes all body styles.

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Here is a Steyr Super that is in the LeMay Family Museum in Marymount, WA.

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John posted two photos, one of a Ford Model T sedan that had been wrecked by a Stutz.  Here is a photo of a Model T sedan showing the body wood frame work.  The Model T was a fairly fragile construction.

 

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