oldcarfudd Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 In LCK's Model T post, there are two giveaways that the car is a '14 and not a '15. The windshield is a zig-zag; the bottom half slopes backward a bit, and the upper half folds backward over it. And the lamps are carbide. The '15 has a vertical windshield and electric headlamps. There are also two giveaways that the car is a '14 and not a '13. A '13 also has a zig-zag windshield, but the top half folds forward instead of backward. And a '13's doors go all the way to the bottom of the body, instead of forming a U; that was a design flaw in the '13s that caused all kinds of problems with the rear doors coming unlatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 The 1903 Gordon Miniature cost 126 Guineas, the 1905 Gilburt cost 125 / 130 Pounds, and the 1904 O.H.B. cost 100 / 115 Guineas. Somewhere I have an old article that mentions a British monetary amount in Quid. Is a Pound a Guinea and/or Quid, like a U.S. dollar is also a "buck"? It is interesting to see a price in Guineas (Pounds?), but we never see an advertise price of "Bucks" in the U.S., always just in Dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Thank's a lot for the instruction about my grandparents Model T Ford. I really appreciate your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 This is a 1915 or '16 model T touring car. Notice the the windshield is folded back similar to the '14 (your picture), however, the lower section is straight up and down. Also notice the cowl section that flows up and back from the firewall behind the boxy low hood. That is the defining characteristic of the '15s and '16s. Look at the firewall on the '14 a few posts up. See how large and exposed it is compared to the hidden firewall on the '15. That larger open firewall began well before the model T was introduced, and continued on Fords through the 1914 model year. You can also see the rounded rear fender in my posted '15/'16. The switch from the '14 to the '15 model years was complicated by production delays for the new cowl design. Therefore,the 1914 style actually continued to be manufactured and sold as new cars until at least April of calendar 1915. These cars were generally sold originally as 1915 models, however, since the 1950s within the hobby they have never really been considered as '15s, instead as the preferred earlier style '14. The OP '14 most likely is not one of the late '15 built '14 style cars as most of those got transitional billed front fenders instead or the bill-less late '13 and most of '14 style front fender. It however is still possible that the car was sold as a '15 when new. Also, many states did not register cars that early, and when registered later, the year model was often recorded incorrectly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I believe a guinea was 5% more than a pound - 21 shillings instead of 20. A quid is a colloquial expression for a pound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCK81403 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 In England in 1903 two automobile models were both offered at a price of 170 pounds. One was the '03 Waddington 6 1/2 H.P. Voiturette, and the second was the '03 Gamage. Advertising details shows that both cars look very similar and both could be purchased with either an Aster or a De Dion engine. Because of the similarity of appearance, engine selection and price, can it be assumed that these are "assembled cars"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Cooler weather photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, LCK81403 said: Grandpa's 1915 Ford Model T. Grandma Rose in the back seat with uncle Alois, aunt Betty in the front seat with her dad. Looks to be a 13 or 14 seeing it has a wood firewall and non electric lights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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30DodgePanel Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Imagine this sound coming at you.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Stunning photography and vehicle. Cannot seem to look away. Sorry if it's been posted in this thread already, I looked but could not find it. I feel it's worth a second look regardless... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Illustrious name, but the car... I am afraid it's a Rabag-Bugatti and not anything made in Molsheim that Robert von Mendelssohn (1902-1996) is sitting on. The photo is from 1929 so it wasn't exactly a brand new car the Berliner banker was driving. Edited July 7, 2020 by Casper Friederich (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 20 hours ago, John_Mereness said: 1931 Auburn Boattail Speedster Rear of car travelling along country road. Photographed by Zoltan Glass, c.1930. UNITED KINGDOM - SEPTEMBER 20: Rear of car travelling along country road. Photographed by Zoltan Glass, c.1930. Photograph taken for advertisement series in the early 1930's, by Zoltan Glass. (Photo by Science & Society Picture Library/SSPL/Getty Images) Look at the Auburn logo on the right rear fender.........interesting! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 One of the most famous hills in the world in it's very early days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Close up of one the incredible homes built at the time. You can just imagine being one of the last contractors working on this job in it's final stages and what it must have been like... I wonder what types of vehicles have pulled into this driveway over the years? Historical Notes Circa 1926 Driveway leading to the garage of the Spanish Colornial style Castillo del Lago. In the late 1930’s, a newcomer to Beachwood leased the house: Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel, the gangster best known for spearheading the post-war casino boom in Las Vegas. Though he later took up residence in Beverly Hills, Siegel apparently lived in Castillo del Lago for a time while running it as an illegal casino. (It was not a speakeasy, as many people have claimed, as Prohibition was repealed in 1933.)* Castillo del Lago would later go through a succession of owners, most famous being "Material Girl" Madonna 1993 - 1997). Edited July 7, 2020 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Louis Fancher was probably better known for his great artwork in Pierce Arrow ads. Here's one of his for Packard's model 48, c. 1913. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Early Cadillac with a somewhat cumbersome radio setup on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twin6 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 House moving in California. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 8 hours ago, 30DodgePanel said: Stunning photography and vehicle. Cannot seem to look away. Sorry if it's been posted in this thread already, I looked but could not find it. I feel it's worth a second look regardless... Great car (love a 32, but the 33 is "great body" with the more "modern" fender look) and I do not believe duplicated, but I know I have duplicated some things, plus along the way found better resolution and ... - keep posting !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, edinmass said: Look at the Auburn logo on the right rear fender.........interesting! Thanks for pointing out the logo on the fender - It reminds me of this very early post to this page by Walt - quite a well labeled Boattail (it has an Auburn logo/wording on the hood over the supercharged script with a matching logo/wording over ornament on the rear quarter, plus has an extra Auburn emblem on the hood side vent louvers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, John_Mereness said: Thanks for pointing out the logo on the fender - It reminds me of this very early post to this page by Walt - quite a well labeled Boattail (it has an Auburn logo/wording on the hood over the supercharged script with a matching logo/wording over ornament on the rear quarter, plus has an extra Auburn emblem on the hood side vent louvers. The photo was taken at Roosevelt Field in Garden City, NY about 3 miles east of my house. It was the major airport in the area long before JFK or LaGuardia were in the planning stages. My father got his pilots license there ( was something to do he wasn't a commercial pilot) The airplane in the background would advertise a NY newspaper by dragging behind it a banner stating what the newspapers name was. ( haven't seen that in decades as it is now most likely illegal to do so) . In the distance , that part of the field was where Lindbergh took off for his flight to Paris in 1927. ( and Lindbergh would have his Franklins - a 1928 sedan and a 1930 Dietrich bodied 4 door conv. serviced at the Franklin service/dealer located in Columbus Circle - SW corner of 59th Street . the Dealer was William Pase who also had dealerships in Brooklyn and Huntington, NY ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Packard with German body 1929, by Zschau in Leipzig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 From AACA's FB gallery, a photo by John Adams Davis of NYC. The location was used by him and others for numerous posed shots of cars back in the day, and has to be one of the most photographed pieces of real estate in the country that isn't a scenic spot or National Park! Walt can probably verify the exact location -- I always thought it was in Central Park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, twin6 said: From AACA's FB gallery, a photo by John Adams Davis of NYC. The location was used by him and others for numerous posed shots of cars back in the day, and has to be one of the most photographed pieces of real estate in the country that isn't a scenic spot or National Park! Walt can probably verify the exact location -- I always thought it was in Central Park. Yes....Central Park, the area is now heavily forested. Edited July 7, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin6 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Cool, here's more fun in the park, a '31 Packard convertible Victoria with body by Rollston. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, edinmass said: Yes....Central Park, the area is now heavily forested. You are looking north and the car is facing west. It is about mid way up Central Park I walked that area about a decade or more ago and as Ed mentions it is heavily forested. John Adams Davis Studio/office was not to distant away from the location . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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