Laughing Coyote Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Not mine. Thought I would share https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/scottsdale-1933-pierce-arrow-model/7071938962.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Nice car, seems to have represented all four corners of the country plus most of Canada during it's life. I don't think the "period correct" paint sceme will help. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Nice car, but a little brightly lit. The screws in the window sills were not a good idea of someone's. Nice car though !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, John_Mereness said: Nice car, but a little brightly lit. The screws in the window sills were not a good idea of someone's. Nice car though !!! John, read carefully........the ad says period correct colors..............obviously your mistaken. Edited February 11, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suchan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 What's with the leather front seat? It's a sedan, not a limousine, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryankazmer Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I've not seen color-coordinated roof insert fabric before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If that car was $28,000 or even $38,000, would you guys be making fun of it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 hours ago, edinmass said: John, read carefully........the ad says period correct colors..............obviously your mistaken. Sorry my mistake - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If only they had matched the paint color with the blue broadcloth, painted the wood spokes and fitted black wall tires, it would look very elegant and consistent with the taste of its era. "Less is more." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuicksBuicks Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If I were to see any pre-war car with a similar bright and dark color scheme, I would immediately assume that it was rodded. It's just the way my mind interprets it and in this case my interpretation was be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt Harwood said: If that car was $28,000 or even $38,000, would you guys be making fun of it? My comment was the “factory correct colors”.............I was not making fun of it. As a Pierce Arrow owner, and representative of the marque, the color comment is so far off the mark, it bothers me. I could comment endlessly on the car just from the photos, but I it’s not my job to to either help or hurt it’s sale. As far as price, to each his own.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkEE Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said: If only they had matched the paint color with the blue broadcloth, painted the wood spokes and fitted black wall tires, it would look very elegant and consistent with the taste of its era. "Less is more." I have a very original, low mileage 1933 Auburn sedan with natural / not painted spokes (and a dark blue exterior). @edinmass I’m curious, do you know, were all Pierce wood spokes painted in 1933? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Yes, ALL Pierce wooden wheels were painted when new, there is no proof that they ever used stained or natural finish wood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkEE Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Thanks Ed! Now I’m curious about my Auburn. ...time for some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Man Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Interesting car, but he is asking a premium price. Lots of work to bring it back to its original glory. In 1933 Graham had optional white wall tires, looks like Pierce did also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, bryankazmer said: I've not seen color-coordinated roof insert fabric before Actually, color coded/keyed roof inserts were a thing in the 1932-ish to 1936-ish time period - as cars were becoming more "modern," Edited February 12, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Years ago I saw text from a serious historian, museum curator. He described wanting ONLY 100% original untouched cars for his museum. It was because restored cars always seem to reflect (include?) colors, styles and small fashion elements from the time they were restored. However much people seem to like "old" cars, it is way too common to fix them to look like whatever is currently in the showroom when the work is being done. ("Make it look new again") These tiny elements of design seem to be invisible until the finished product is viewed many decades later. Kinda like looking at pictures of yourself from high school. "Did I really dress that way??" During the 1970s I remember the 57 Thunderbirds all had narrow whitewalls. At the same time the 61-67 Lincoln convertibles all had 'classic' wide whitewalls. Both in opposition of what was original equipment. . . . . Maybe its not about history, its only about standing out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil morse Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I agree with m-mman completely. We see the same thing in Victorian houses, particularly in the SF Bay area where there are so many. Starting in the 70's, the "painted ladies" boom started with all kinds of garish paint schemes, like this: Whereas, when built, most of these houses had very somber, earth tone schemes (or were simply mono-tone), like this: This PA reminds me of the same phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I can't comment on whether or not the car is correct. While the colors are not my style (at all!) The car certainly has a good presence. Paint is not a minor matter but if you were willing and able to tear the exterior apart and respray it, say, monochromatic dark blue or dark gray, even with the whitewalls and wood spokes, it would look much better. Just my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe in Canada Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Does it matter if the same colors are on an open car? Maybe if we went away from having to have the original colors that many to me are very drab looking. With all the browns and tan colored cars out there for an example you not attracting a younger following who like the brighter colors to be noticed. How many auto manufactures today have brown or tan colors on their chart and just try and sell a used brown car. If you want to attract the new generation you are not going to do it with many of the ugly colors that are authentic. Just my thoughts on color and and opening another can of worms. Edited February 13, 2020 by Joe in Canada (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, Joe in Canada said: Does it matter if the same colors are on an open car? Maybe if we went away from having to have the original colors that many to me are very drab looking. With all the browns and tan colored cars out there for an example you not attracting a younger following who like the brighter colors to be noticed. How many auto manufactures today have brown or tan colors on their chart and just try and sell a used brown car. If you want to attract the new generation you are not going to do it with many of the ugly colors that are authentic. Just my thoughts on color and and opening another can of worms. Better blues on this Packard - the wheels are a bit brightly lit and the car would probably be better served with the wheels being the darker blue, but otherwise "period". The painted chassis is a nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I think we only have slides of our 1931 Cadillac Town Sedan, though it was done to match a factory magazine illustration and basically looked like this excepting factory painted metal sidemount covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp36 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Maybe the color would look better if it was a little softer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I'm kinda partial to this 1929 Chrysler roadster blue combination.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Joe in Canada said: Does it matter if the same colors are on an open car? Yes, I think it does. An open car is expected to flashier and brighter. An open car is a "Look at me!" type of car Any sedan or closed car is expected to be more conservative. Sedans were commonly equipped with shades to hide the occupants. . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 hours ago, ericmac said: Paint is not a minor matter but if you were willing and able to tear the exterior apart and respray it, say, monochromatic dark blue or dark gray, even with the whitewalls and wood spokes, it would look much better. True ,not cheap, but is seems to have been a high quality restoration under those colors, so you could have a real nice car afterwards. Cheaper than starting from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 20 hours ago, m-mman said: True ,not cheap, but is seems to have been a high quality restoration under those colors, so you could have a real nice car afterwards. Cheaper than starting from scratch. Agreed, I would rather start with a car like this than a pile of rusty parts with wood rot bodies and ... - a lot of times people fail to look at the underlying product to realize that it is a decent car or at least a jumpstart toward getting done better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Just to revisit an old thread, this car is now listed at $23,500: https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1330375/1933-pierce-arrow-836-for-sale-in-cave-creek-az-85331 Does that change anyone's opinion on the colors? For that price, you could afford to have the light blue painted areas sprayed to match the dark blue areas and have a pretty nice tour car... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 You most likely would have to repaint the whole car, if you look at the photos of the right front and left rear fenders you see checking of the paint , so if closer inspection of the car in person by someone looks at the other fenders are they cracked too? SO do you bother to try to color match the fenders ( which for me are a bit to bright ) or just repaint the whole car? Has anyone priced the cost of a gallon of lacquer thinner lately? primer and color , add in sandpaper, masking tape, masking paper, etc. You will have close to if not exceed $1,000 in materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Walt.........you’re way low.............materials costs are insane today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketofBolts Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Prices are not just flat on 4-door sedans but trending downwards. The cost to restore with labor prices what they are these days makes it where few of these cars are getting restored. If the vehicle was a different color I believe that the seller would have no problem at this price range in selling this rolling artwork. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 If I didn’t have the original 31, I would be sorely tempted so long as it ran well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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