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9 minutes ago, SC38DLS said:

I don’t think they sell those in Title Town! 

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I love how these things take wings.  

 

It's not a complicated formula.

 

This forum is about original cars.  If you want to discuss something that's not original, then there are plenty of places on the ether to do that.

 

Sheesh. 

 

Oh, sorry, I recently posted about modern towing.  I'm going to the bathroom mirror to watch me slap myself, I did wrong...but then again, "towing" is not strictly an antique car topic...

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The attached picture is at first confusing, and might at a casual glance seem to be cannon fodder with which to jeopardize my good standing with my beloved AACA. See, someone might think, just because I am among those who consider Frank Pepe's to be the pizza against which all others must be judged, that I am fanning the flames of deviancy here. Not so. Others might notice that the pictured car is a 2014 Cadillac. And you know what THAT means. No, I know very well it is not 25 years old. It is not the car, nor is it the pizza which just happens to be framed in the field. Actually, this has to do with Hershey. I had rented that AWD Cadillac, brand spanking new at the time, to take me to the deluge of the 2013 Hershey. Flying in and out of Newark, my favorite tomato pie joint was handy in New Haven, CT on the way into and then again on the outbound leg from Hershey. Speaking of legs, mine are no longer capable of a proper Hershey. I need to go one more time. This time I think I will just slink around the corral, and catch the show. I hope I can make 2021. Believe it or not, 1/2 that 2 sided pie, 1/4 and 1/4, made it back to Seattle for Sandy. She doesn't get around like she used to either. And sadly, she has never been to Hershey.  -   CC 

 

 

 

 

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Clarify logistics - Thanks, Bob ! (see edit history)
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Ah, the perfect accompaniment to a wonderful Hershey experience.  You need your calories to get around in the swap meet - Susan wore her fitbit again this year and logged over 30 miles, taking great pride in having walked by every space. Some people walk down the middle and get dizzy looking at both sides - she walks down one way, then back the other.  I reap the benefits - she snaps cell phone pics of goodies and while I'm at the booth having too much fun, I can still find goodies thanks to her eyes.  Ah-the wonders of technology!

 

Speaking of Pizza, the best I've ever had was in a small brick-oven pizzeria in Catania, Sicily.  Oddly enough, it was call "The Texas Pizzeria." 

 

Not to deviate too far from the original topic here, it was back in the beginning of time (AACA Time that is) for me.  There I was, a newly elected AACA Director, when Past President Ron Barnett pulled me aside and said he was creating an "Internet Committee" and he was going to have me work with a couple of other directors on it.  That project produced the Webmaster Awards, and among other things, our first ever meeting of Moderators at Philadelphia during the AACA Annual Meeting (Convention).  One of the topics of the day was how to control some of the brick-throwing, uncivil, political, general rants and raves we were seeing on the forums.  We laid some ground rules and tried various things over the ensuing years including creating a "rants and raves" area of the forum, then kicking that to a "basement" area where only the ranters and ravers could play among themselves.  It's been interesting to see it evolve, but periodically, we do need to remind everyone of the basics, and I'm pleased at what's been done with this. 

I'm still looking forward to all the fun on a focused forum and thanks Steve, Peter, and all the moderators (now and past) for doing their best to keep things civil, interesting, and in keeping with our club mission.

Let the season begin!

Terry

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I think you all better agree Chicago pizza is the best!  Remember, Steve has the “to ban” or “not to ban” all of you ( I know Chicago pizza is the best so I’m safe!) ultimate power. 
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Ok, so a lot of Sicilians moved to Chicago.  At least everyone I met there asked "I have a friend in Chicago, do you know him?"

Terry

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Plumbing Supply  Company, was another good front business. Bob 

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18 hours ago, C Carl said:

The attached picture is at first confusing, and might at a casual glance seem to be cannon fodder with which to jeopardize my good standing with my beloved AACA. See, someone might think, just because I am among those who consider Frank Pepe's to be the pizza against which all others must be judged, that I am fanning the flames of deviancy here. Not so. Others might notice that the pictured car is a 2014 Cadillac. And you know what THAT means. No, I know very well it is not 25 years old. It is not the car, nor is it the pizza which just happens to be framed in the field. Actually, this has to do with Hershey. I had rented that AWD Cadillac, brand spanking new at the time, to take me to the deluge of the 2013 Hershey. In and out of Newark, my favorite tomato pie joint was handy on the inbound and outbound legs. Speaking of legs, mine are no longer capable of a proper Hershey. I need to go one more time. This time I think I will just slink around the corral, and catch the show. I hope I can make 2021. Believe it or not, 1/2 that 2 sided pie, 1/4 and 1/4, made it back to Seattle for Sandy. She doesn't get around like she used to either. And sadly, she has never been to Hershey.  -   CC 

 

 

 

 

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Looks like someone already ate it...............Bob

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I sure wish I could sample these various pizzas being discusses. Alas, I am allergic to tomatoes. 

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46 minutes ago, Bhigdog said:

 

Looks like someone already ate it...............Bob

 

Well maybe, Bob. But just like snowflakes, every Frank Pepe pizza is unique. Hand tossed, and cooked quickly in a very high temperature coal fired oven, that oven being the same one which has cooked those pies since 1925. That production technique does, indeed, produce some asymmetry to a greater or lesser degree. Part of the charm. Imagine if every pie were a perfect circular disc, each one a cookie cutter duplicate version of every other one. I guess a machine could be programmed to do that. I'm here to tell you  that seconds after this picture was taken, I got into said delicacy. Sampled each side, and lit out for the Tappan Zee Bridge on my why to Newark. Returned the Cadillac, ate a bit more, and carefully and thoroughly wrapped the remains for transcontinental delivery to Sandy. She didn't know what was coming, but what a wonderful surprise for her ! We had been to Pepes many years earlier.

 

In order to comply with the spirit and purpose of AACA, I will encourage all who read this to imagine what spectacular NEW cars must have pulled up to 157 Wooster St., New Haven, CT back in the '20s and'30s.

 

                   Drive your OLD car there. Ample parking.   www.pepespizzeria.com.  Tell 'em you were sent by :   -  Cadillac Carl 

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2 minutes ago, Billy Kingsley said:

I sure wish I could sample these various pizzas being discusses. Alas, I am allergic to tomatoes. 

 

Hi Billy ! They have white pies. Try a white clam pie !    -  CC 

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I'm very impressed with the moderators here. They actually took a poll to see what forum members thought about something a week ago. This contradicted the accusations that they were engaging in censorship. I've never felt uncomfortable here, despite having vehicles that are not up to AACA quality. I'm also appreciative of the advice and help of all the people who do have vehicles at that level or commensurate experience/knowledge. Thanks to you all!

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2 hours ago, SC38DLS said:

I think you all better agree Chicago pizza is the best!  
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I was born and raised in Waukegan and remember driving 40 miles to eat at Pizzeria Uno in Chicago because of their outstanding deep dish pizza. Does anyone know if they are still in business?

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Both uno’ s and duo’s were going strong a few months ago. Gino’s has franchise’s all over as does UNO’s 

 

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Deep dish what ?

Sadly, I have not been "home" since late Sept. - early Oct. of 2012. I had to go back to help my step-grandmother with a "problem" she was having with an automobile insurance company. You can see her in the first picture with "The Doll", a.k.a. "The Devil With the Blue Dress on". To give that devil seldom deserved credit, I could not have made the trip without her. But that is another story, we had a very good time. I'll get back to this shortly.

 

The significance of the second picture is only to present credentials. That is The Midway looking East, as any South-Sider knows. I was born in a hospital just across the street behind the tree line to the far left back in nineteen and forty-four. Couple blocks farther to the left is E. 57th street.

 

The third picture indemnifies me against any charges of misappropriation of AACA forums into irrelevant rot. That picture is at the East end of E. 57th street, approaching the Museum of Science and Industry. There is only one person on Earth who would be able to identify the now "Antique Car" I am driving on that unusually warm early Fall late afternoon. Since I am sure he has several other pressing issues to deal with, I shall relieve the identity sleuth of the responsibility of identifying my evidence. I hope the moderators recognize that this is a 1990 Cadillac 60 Special. My step-grandmother's car. Dark blue with matching leather. See, it only had 60,000 miles on it. Lived all its life in the heated garage of The Edgewater up on Sheridan. NEVER driven in the Winter, Angelica always Wintered in Chile where she was born. So it was in extraordinarily good condition. ZERO rust. IN CHICAGO !!!!!!!!!! And therein was the basis of the insurance "problem". Angelica had been insured for 22 years with the same company. By this time, the comprehensive insurance she was carrying might have been considered overkill. First time in her entire life she ever presented a claim to her insurance company. They wanted to devalue the Cadillac, total it, and give her a fraction of the repair bill. No real BIG deal, but you know..............  And I always welcome the opportunity to come to the aid of a damsel in distress. Especially if she is my grandmother. I was diligent, provided the insurance company everything they asked for, and proved my case. It was a little more dramatic than that, and became somewhat fun. We were granted an audience with a potentate way high up in the executive level of the insurance building. (You shouldda seen the security we had to go through !). Anyway, exec. listened carefully, and promised to research the relevance of the name I dropped. Payment in full was delivered forthwith.

 

"Devil Doll" got to experience a Chicago tourists never touch. And we ate well. And I gotta 'fess-up. We did Uno. Now, I was gonna say something which could possibly lead to a confrontational situation with my very own esteemed forum friends. Deep dish vs. traditional Pizza Napolitano verges on the animosity level of our lamentably polarized society. So let me say that I don't really care very much what  anybody else eats, or who they vote for. We are all friends here, and rightly so. But my dad was born in Chicago in 1915, and he hung out with plenty of "Sigilianos" and "Napolitanos". Uh, wait a minute I was just about to refer to my initial question, but decorum and high regard for my friends here leads me to leave the subject hanging.

 

To present a food subject upon which we can all agree, this is a perfect segue to the fourth picture. Ever heard of a "Seattle Dog" ? Huh ? No ? Got cream cheese on it ? Sheeeeeeee....................  !!!!!!   Ever been to this pictured dog joint there in Chicago on Clark Street ? If "momma" is in the window, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING YOUR CHILDREN IN THERE. Ever had a Chicago cop pull you over and cuss you out, but give you a pass on the ticket ? I LOVE that particular form of punishment. By comparison with THIS "doggy doll", that Chicago cop speaks The Queen's English. Now, my "doll" and I had absolutely no idea whatsoever what was going on the in there. We just wanted to eat some legitimate Chicago sausages. We just walked in from the street. Evidently, this is somewhat of a tourist attraction. The customer is taking a video, as are others. I sure don't think I need a model release to post this picture. I bet "momma" wishes I had a sound track to go with it ! So if I was starting to come close to fanning the flames of a pizza war, I think we can all agree on "Chicago Dogs". Riiiiight ?       -     Cadillac Carl 

 

 

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Carl, When I read your first post I got it in my head that the Pepe shop was in Newark, N.J.. Thank you for posting their website, they have a shop in Danbury, Ct, 20-25 minutes from this keyboard. I'll post our review some time soon. Bob 

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Thanks for pointing out the confusing "Newark" location, Bob. I will go back to edit and. clarify. The cheap flight from Seattle to Newark saves bucks. It was also at a convenient time. Plus, I really like to drive, so getting the chance to explore while enjoying the colorful leaves in a new AWD Cadillac is a real bonus. Hey, man, I sure hope you are real happy with Frank Pepes. With all my health problems, I am not supposed to eat things like cheezy, greezy pizza. Far as I am concerned, a Frank Pepe pizza is a pie to die for !!!    -   CC 

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Wow, I guess I turned this into the great pizza debate but Giordano's in Chicago is to die for!  Uno's is still in business but Malnati's and Giordano's are two of the big guns in town.  Pizza in Hershey?  Might as well put ketchup on cardboard!

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 It's a little past 9am here in NY and I'm craving for PIZZA NOW....lol

 

I guess you know what I'm now having for lunch !

 

Steve

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3 hours ago, Steve Moskowitz said:

Wow, I guess I turned this into the great pizza debate but Giordano's in Chicago is to die for!  Uno's is still in business but Malnati's and Giordano's are two of the big guns in town.  Pizza in Hershey?  Might as well put ketchup on cardboard!

Interesting analogy - ketchup on cardboard!  During our first visit to Scotland, Pizza was not a widely recognized food, especially the further away from the bigger cities of Glasgow and Edinburgh.  We often attended small town fairs with our local antique car club, and enjoyed the bagpipe music and the usual athletic events (caber toss, etc).  A usual feature at those events was an assortment of "food trucks" vending pork pies, beer, fish and chips, etc.  At one such event we saw of all things - a PIZZA Truck.  We were having serious pizza withdrawal and decided to take a chance on the Scottish highland version.  It was literally and English muffin with ketchup and a piece of British sausage on it.   Will never forget that version of a "personal pan pizza." 

Terry

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The pizza I had on the sidewalks of Venice has little resemblance to what we Americans call Pizza.

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1 hour ago, JACK M said:

The pizza I had on the sidewalks of Venice has little resemblance to what we Americans call Pizza.

 

Agree, Jack.  My wife and I were touring Rome in 1984.  Outside the Coliseum I spotted a pizza vendor.  We were rather hungry so I bought some.  What a shock.  It was so bland tasting it made watching reruns of last year's weather report look exciting.  No cheese, just a little bit of marinara, lot of tasteless veggies.  

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2 hours ago, Terry Bond said:

It was literally and English muffin with ketchup and a piece of British sausage on it

 

I don't think British cooking was ever considered a gustatory delight by most anyone. Kind of like if Lucas was a chef..............Bob

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On 2/11/2020 at 2:21 PM, padgett said:

We have a class for garbage trucks (Ardun heads) ?

 

Is funny, at one time I generated an article outlining exactly how hard it was to make a car exactly "as it left the factory" (which factory/assembly plant, on what day). For example "on what day in the early 70s did GM 140 mph speedos switch to 120 and why ?

 

My feeling is that for some there is this glorified factory in the sky that could do no wrong when the actuality (I was in on the muscle car era) was often "whatever will keep the assembly lines rolling". One bin of alternators is empty, grab some from the other line. EPA finds something rong, slipstream in the fix. To be accurate just for Reattas (20,000 in five model years), I have about 10 feet of GM publications about half that are just TSBs (technical service bulletins) on changes during the model year. Barney has more.

 

Thanks to a few Pontiac employees who rescued microfilm slated for destruction we know how every Pontiac since 1959 was supposed to be built. Doubt that anyone judges to that level (when were FMVSS labels required ?) or is that what the club wants ? Would take about four hours to properly judge a car. I'd rather be driving.

 

 

 

 

 

Well I know what you mean about cars that left the factory different than production. My Dad's / later mine, 1959 Pontiac Catalina was one of those cars. The Catalina was built with a S/O tag next to the firewall vin plate though. A car that should have been built in South Gate Ca. that was purpose built in Mi. with a hand built blueprinted and balance 4 bolt main 389 built in the Pontiac tool room, those engines were destined for NASCAR recipients and drag racers. A heavy duty 4 speed Super HydraMatic. with a twist, A tri tone leather Bonneville interior. That would be a hard to explain car these days without some paperwork.

 

  I even had a hard time/ impossible time explaining my 69 H-O 355 LeMans that I special ordered in Nov. of 69. It seems that POCI judges wanted to put that car in a semi modified category at the POCI nationals back in 92 or 93. All because my LeMans came with a 140 MPH speedo! Apparently those cars ( Tempest, LeMans, GTO) were only supposed to come with a 120MPH speedo. I still have the car, and the dash has never been apart, but it's got a 140 MPH speedo. I found out at that show the only car in 1969 that has a 140 MPH speedo is the Grand Prix. I also found out the instruments/ clusters are identical to Tempest! Did the assembly line run out of 120 MPH speedo's? Anyroad I got shoved into semi Modified because of it and I have a copy of the sales order, the build sheet and the window sticker.   

  

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