Matt Harwood Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I have a pair of plain metal rings for the tread part of the sidemount. Repros, unfinished, probably generic fit. But they could be painted or chromed to look like the yellow car with red accents and the M4-3103 license plate, above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 I'll let you know what I come up with. I do have a pair of those ones I showed which would look fitting when put on the correct tire. I'll probably have to pull the sidemount tire out to get a better pic. They look very close to what's on the Maroon car. I did see one photos of some Auburns in a showroom and the one had what looked like the ones you mentioned that had the smooth chrome rings. Does anyone have an original list of accessories with sidemount covers shown? I have a sales brochure but they are all artists renditions which we know may not be correct as they often took liberties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Yes I mixed up olor, touch up and sidemount conversation. Its a fast moving thread...But at least another Auburn made it into the thread. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steve_Mack_CT said: Yes I mixed up olor, touch up and sidemount conversation. Its a fast moving thread...But at least another Auburn made it into the thread. 🙂 Well the thread is moving faster than the work on the car but yup another Auburn mentioned so all is good. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) On 2/19/2020 at 8:18 PM, auburnseeker said: I got these sidemount covers last summer from a cousin. Said someone gave them to him and he thought they were Ford. Unfortunately I didn't want to tear one of the spares out and the Martins on it are quite a bit larger than the sidemount tires but I tried the rings on my 32 Ford's Tire which measures the same diameter as the sidemount tires. The sidemount tires are narrower though so the outer rings will sit down over the tire better. Looks like I might have a match. I do have a pair of them as well and these two pieces are in the worst shape of the pair so hopefully these will work out. The stainless is a bit banged up but I do stainless straightening and polishing so I should be good to go. Congratulations: I would say you are good to go on the tire covers - they will work out great. Here is the secret - sometimes you need to get a one size smaller tire for under the cover and I have also taken a grinder to the edge of the tire and knocked the corner off one side or another - that allows the tread covers to fit down a little lower on the tire and meet up better on the faceplates. So, have the yellow paint matched and while you are doing that then you can do a little touch up on the fender too (just touch it up for now though). By the way, you may be LOL at your wife's suggestion of brushing paint onto issue, but I have a sign painter who makes house calls and would not be the first time - and have done it on some near 100 point cars too (we just took mode time). Also, remember on the fender you are painting the belt edge maroon - so 1/2 the touch up will be seen. Edited February 21, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 I wasn't against touching it up again as I really hate to get into tearing everything apart as we all know where that leads. I could air brush it in and even wet sand and buff it like I did the bigger repair. It would be much less noticeable especially when I get around to painting the fender beading. At some point I need to get running board covers. What's on there is definitely far from correct and shorter than the boards. The moldings look like Door moldings off a 50's or 60's car. I saw some recommendation for a company that makes the right moldings but no reference for who is doing the rubber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937-44 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 9:51 AM, auburnseeker said: Does anyone have an original list of accessories with sidemount covers shown? Not sure how much this will help but this is what it looks like in the accessory book. I would suggest you post on the ACD website now that you are a member, and welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937-44 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, auburnseeker said: I saw some recommendation for a company that makes the right moldings but no reference for who is doing the rubber. I think Northfield Forming does the rubber mats. http://www.northfieldltd.com/runningboardmats.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thanks for the link. That's what I was looking for. When I save up a little I'll have to get an order in. The covers I have sure look pretty close. I'll take a sidemount out today to see what it looks like all wrapped up and post a photo. I have some dings to take out but that's not a big deal. Having the right pieces is most of the battle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Correct: http://www.northfieldltd.com/runningboardmats.html That said you have a few other options - you can shoot an email to Stan Gilliland at Auburn Cord Parts - you can PM me if you need Stan's email Also you may try: http://www.runningboardrubbermats.com/matreproductionlist.html http://www.runningboardrubber.com/running_board_rubber_mats.html As a sidnote: This is like a 1K project plus shipping (just did not want you to have sticker shock) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) I want to say my running board moldings came from Stan Gilliland - I recall them being a two part affair with one part being Auburn specialized and the other part being generic. As to the generic part. http://www.maxmerrittauto.com/showpage.php?page=body-molding.htm As to running board molding - I put a post out on ACD form for you and will let you know the answer. In the mean time, please shoot a photo of what you have on your running-boards for time currently and post or PM me. Edited February 21, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 I saw the price on the first link and figured they were going to be in that range. I saw a link to a trim place that reproduced a molding that looked like it might be right. I guess it holds the matt cover down on the outside edge as well as is decorative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Here are some shots of the sidemount and my poorly covered running board. Seems the tire is a little smaller than it should be by the fit of the cover and the space around it in the well once I installed it. I had trouble getting it to stay where it should in the well because of the undersized tire as it kept rocking the ring forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Curious if anyone reproduces that stainless band that goes around the outer ring. I can straighten and polish it, but wow I don't think there is an inch on it that isn't dented or semi flattened. Edited February 21, 2020 by auburnseeker (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, auburnseeker said: Curious if anyone reproduces that stainless band that goes around the outer ring. I can straighten and polish it, but wow I don't think there is an inch on it that isn't dented or semi flattened. Yup........the Duesenberg guys make them.......bought a set several months ago.............you don't want to know............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 So how bad were the ones you took off the Duessy? I wonder if Ford ones would fit from a 32? Mine look like a couple of kids rolled the tires in the cover down the road. I think i can straighten it, but hate to spend 40 Hours on the thing. I think the other one is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Those tires are 5.25 x17 in the wells. I think guys were running a 6.25 or something similar. They are so small they had a small block under them so they would stick up high enough for the belts in the holder to attach to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Randy......you needed new tires and tubes anyways, and black walls should be ordered ASAP. Wheel color change, throw the trunk in the basement and the extra lights on eBay. Then, the only thing the car will need to add significant eyeball is me sitting on the front seat. Perfection!👍👍 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) I better get it running before we worry about tires. No sense in new rubber if I can't drive it. That will be next month. My friend will be back and give me a hand to prime it up good and see what we have. It's good to have 2 sets of hands for a first start up. I have found enough stuff that rattles and is loose just cleaning to wonder if a noisy engine might not be everything else rattling and banging. I know i can't get that lucky but lots of little things to address, including a brand new muffler wedged against the frame rail. Edited February 21, 2020 by auburnseeker (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 18 hours ago, auburnseeker said: Curious if anyone reproduces that stainless band that goes around the outer ring. I can straighten and polish it, but wow I don't think there is an inch on it that isn't dented or semi flattened. Try here: https://www.ecklers.com/spare-tire-cover-trim-ring-stainless-steel-moulding-bead-only-16-ford-32-15207-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, auburnseeker said: I better get it running before we worry about tires. No sense in new rubber if I can't drive it. That will be next month. My friend will be back and give me a hand to prime it up good and see what we have. It's good to have 2 sets of hands for a first start up. I have found enough stuff that rattles and is loose just cleaning to wonder if a noisy engine might not be everything else rattling and banging. I know i can't get that lucky but lots of little things to address, including a brand new muffler wedged against the frame rail. Here is my best advice: It is sort of a dual effort - I am quick to grab any part that I need for an Auburn on the day it is available, as the next day is often a whole different story. Edited February 22, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 What is your tire pressure in the sidemounted spares - I always hear of too tight a fit on covers, so I am surprised when I see anything else ? Any way about it though you have a very good problem to have as too big is easier to deal with than too small. You can always add a flap of thick felt to the underside of the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the runningboard photo - that is a whole bunch of just wrong trim. I have a lead out and one reply back was for V-12, but think the auburn specific part could be shortened, plus they are being made by a good friend - let's give it a few more days. Edited February 22, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Keep in mind too that your leather straps will go UNDER the tire covers (between tire cover and tire)= that will take up some space. And, yes I know the accessory brochure shows over - but, then you need really nice straps, they mess the paint all up on the covers, and .... Edited February 22, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, John_Mereness said: Try here: https://www.ecklers.com/spare-tire-cover-trim-ring-stainless-steel-moulding-bead-only-16-ford-32-15207-1.html That might be an option. I will have to check my profile. Would be a whole lot easier and cheaper in the end with the man hours required to make mine look good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 7 hours ago, edinmass said: That looks like a black and white photo of my car back in the day. Did they change filler neck locations? Mine is on the other side or was this just a better angle for the promotional photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, auburnseeker said: That looks like a black and white photo of my car back in the day. Did they change filler neck locations? Mine is on the other side or was this just a better angle for the promotional photo? The fellow has the hose in the proper driver's side location - he is holding the hose so it does not lay across their car. And, yes this is a publicity photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Enjoying this thread, but we are heading into page 20 on a congratulatory thread to Auburnseeker. May I suggest A/S that you open a new thread devoted to "Refurbishing/Restoring/Drooling over a 193?'s Auburn Phaeton/Convertible Sedan" etc. Would be easier to search for in future for Auburn Enthusiasts. JMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 I did find this company that reproduces the runningboard trim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Only 20 pages. I have a long way to go to catch up to those 200+ page threads. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, auburnseeker said: I did find this company that reproduces the runningboard trim. Get on the Phone and order up a set - yes, a two part affair - you have the Auburn specific molding and then over the top of that (he has in black) there is a 1/4 round with tipped ends. You may also want to try here - he use to have them, but it has been a couple of years: samsonized@hotmail.com 847-987-2928 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Now, with 4 doors mounted and ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 You'll be driving yours before me. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, auburnseeker said: You'll be driving yours before me. 😉 I can hope, the drivetrain is sitting on a stand and ready to drop in - then needs head and accessories installed (which head is new and all accessories are sitting on workbench next to engine and all ready to go). Hopefully, this weeks project is getting the wooden floor boards back in and all parts around the front seat base; and thereafter the cowl needs everything installed. That said, this car was taken apart to restore in the late 1960's, I have had for several years now, and ... Edited February 22, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) John & Randy, I expect to go for a ride in both of your cars at Auburn over Labor Day. No excuses! Edited February 22, 2020 by edinmass (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Well I probably won't be at Auburn but hopefully she will atleast be roadworthy by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Randy........do me a favor, bring the wife and both Auburn’s to the meet. 👍👍👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) I did just hear back from the Running board molding guy and all he sells is the 1/2" 1/2 Round molding not the wide one. I wonder if any other car used a rocker molding with teh right profile. I have a bunch of NOS rocker moldings . Pretty close might be better than nothing at all. Time for a trip up in the loft. Does anyone have a close up picture of a correct running board with trim that would show the proper profile in relation to the fender bead? Edited February 23, 2020 by auburnseeker (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) On 2/22/2020 at 10:30 PM, auburnseeker said: I did just hear back from the Running board molding guy and all he sells is the 1/2" 1/2 Round molding not the wide one. I wonder if any other car used a rocker molding with teh right profile. I have a bunch of NOS rocker moldings . Pretty close might be better than nothing at all. Time for a trip up in the loft. Does anyone have a close up picture of a correct running board with trim that would show the proper profile in relation to the fender bead? No, it is an Auburn specific part - John Bools in North Carolina makes the part for a V-12, but it is longer and would need to be trimmed - John is restoring a V-12 Phaeton and had the chassis on displayed at Auburn at ACD Festival this year - he does top notch everything. I will PM you John's email and contact information. If John Bools has a pair, then Jump on it and eat peanut butter and jelly for a week. As mentioned, when Auburn parts are available today you get them as tomorrow is a whole other story (and if you need to make something you are generally 1K plus in the first whatever). As to the 1/2 round bead - If John makes that part it would be too long and really cannot be trimmed too well - as V-12 are longer wheelbase and length is in both front fenders and running boards. L & L generally makes everyhting from aluminum, and if not ALL is coming from L & L then I would go with stainless pinbead from Max Merritt http://www.maxmerrittauto.com/showpage.php?page=body-molding.htm Edited February 28, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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