Peter Gariepy

Forum Usage Poll - Please Respond

What do you consider acceptable posts/conversations in the AACA forums?  

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  1. 1. What do you consider acceptable posts/conversations in the AACA forums? (Click all that apply)

    • Restoration and maintenance - antique automobiles 25 years and older
      400
    • Modification and customization - antique automobiles 25 years and older
      190
    • Restoration and maintenance - modern automobiles (24 years old and newer)
      106
    • Modification and customization - modern automobiles (24 years old and newer)
      42
    • Antique automotive related topics - memorabilia, literature, books, etc.
      390
    • Modern automotive related topics - memorabilia, literature, books, etc.
      100
    • Automotive history and news - 25 years and older
      382
    • Automotive history and news - modern (24 years old and newer)
      132
    • Non automobile discussions - Religion, politics, etc.
      9

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This is NOT an AACA official poll. It's simply a gauge on what is acceptable use of this forum by the forum members at large.

 

NOTES: 

Modern = 24 years and newer.

Modified = beyond keeping it on the road for reliability, legal or safety reasons.

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I checked the second box although I think the question is much too broad. Some modification is almost always the case in keeping really old - say more than 50 or 60 year old vehicles on the road. Generally this forum is tolerant of that but if the "as it came from the factory" rule was applied to all cars, just about none of the pre-war cars would be acceptable and the question is almost laughable where brass cars are concerned.

 

I DO NOT mean putting a SBC in any car...or replacing an entire drive train with modern components. I have no idea how this could be policed. To a great extent it is subjective and writing a hard and fast rule is impossible.

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It would help me to know what is considered “modern” Peter. Can you clarify  

please? 

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Just now, MrEarl said:

It would help me to know what is considered “modern” Peter. Can you clarify  

please? 

 

Newer than 25 years old.

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Im hoping this forum doesnt "cave" to accept a bunch of modern metal.

 

The mission it has had has been great.

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3 minutes ago, MrEarl said:

It would help me to know what is considered “modern” Peter. Can you clarify  

please? 

 

Anything with a 12-volt electrical system? :)

 

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5 minutes ago, MrEarl said:

It would help me to know what is considered “modern” Peter. Can you clarify  

please? 

To a Brass era guy, a 1954 might be modern.  I think it's a situation for each individual.  For a Riviera owner 1999s are not antiques but they're definitely not modern.

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1 minute ago, mercer09 said:

Im hoping this forum doesnt "cave" to accept a bunch of modern metal.

 

The mission it has had has been great.

 

Let the poll do its job.  Doesn't mean anything will change.

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4 minutes ago, Peter Gariepy said:

 

Newer than 25 years old.

So this changes every year?

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3 minutes ago, RivNut said:

So this changes every year?

 

No. The SAME every year.  AACA accepts anything 25 years and older.  So new eligible cars are added yearly.

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3 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

Anything with a 12-volt electrical system? :)

Early dodges would be allowed of course even though they were 12 volt from the factory.

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The modification thing is a bit tricky.  I don't mind seeing adapting or modifying things to keep them running or possibly improve upon a a bad original design. It all depends on the extent.   It's interesting to see what someone adapted to keep the car still mostly original but still make it run.  Not the IFS small block 700 R4 tranny disc brake conversions. 

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Just now, Peter Gariepy said:

 

No. The SAME every year.

So every year a new model of car becomes "non-modern."  That means in a few years, electric vehicles and such fall out of the modern category.

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8 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

 

Anything with a 12-volt electrical system? :)

 

Except of course the early Dodge Brothers which some were 12 volt. Tin and I were typing at the same time.

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Just now, RivNut said:

So every year a new model of car becomes "non-modern."  That means in a few years, electric vehicles and such fall out of the modern category.

 

Correct.

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Just now, ted sweet said:

same25 year rolling cut off  as what the aaca allows at shows

 

Correct

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52 minutes ago, JV Puleo said:

I checked the second box although I think the question is much too broad. Some modification is almost always the case in keeping really old - say more than 50 or 60 year old vehicles on the road. Generally this forum is tolerant of that but if the "as it came from the factory" rule was applied to all cars, just about none of the pre-war cars would be acceptable and the questions is almost laughable where brass cars are concerned.

 

I DO NOT mean putting a SBC in any car...or replacing an entire drive train with modern components. I have no idea how this could be policed. To a great extent it is subjective and writing a hard and fast rule is impossible.

 

I didn't check Box #2, although I essentially agree with JV's comments.

 

Confusing matters further, this forum is somewhat akin to a buncha buddies hanging around in the garage — most of the discussions are around our old, mostly original, cars but invariably the conversation includes some interesting new car technology or whatever, and that's fine too.

 

This can't be policed with hard and fast rules, we just need to have faith that the moderator(s) will make required content/attitude decisions using their best judgement and that's that.

 

I have that faith.

 

 

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Then why do we keep separating pre-war from post war.  Perhaps it's time to use the Vietnam war as the separation.  No new models come into the pre-war (basically it's a 40 year window) but every  year one more year becomes a post-war. WWII ended 75 years ago.  We've almost doubled the years in the post-war category.

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19 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said:

 

Anything with a 12-volt electrical system? :)

 

Great idea...

... or post-war ? 😀

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Very  happy to see this post, it will give all a chance to voice their view/opinion in an orderly manner and also give the AACA directors, officers  and moderators something to perhaps consider when making decisions in the future that they deem fair to all - member or not. Once again AACA is taking the first step to try to be open minded and fair. thank you AACA.

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As stated, take the poll and let him view the results.  If there are follow-up questions on interpretation, they will i'm sure be posted.

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35 minutes ago, JV Puleo said:

I checked the second box although I think the question is much too broad. Some modification is almost always the case in keeping really old - say more than 50 or 60 year old vehicles on the road. Generally this forum is tolerant of that but if the "as it came from the factory" rule was applied to all cars, just about none of the pre-war cars would be acceptable and the questions is almost laughable where brass cars are concerned.

 

Not so laughable, my car is "as came from the factory" except tires and battery, only 2 years from brass era. 

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"Modification and customization" of antique automobiles,

25 years old and older, might be useful in certain circumstances.

As a rule, I appreciate only authentic cars, but certain discussions

should be permitted.  For example, I can see why some people might

want to:

 

---Discuss the merits (and sources) of radial tires;

---Install seat belts and know where they can be obtained;

---Want to correct electrical deficiencies in English cars,

     even though they wouldn't want Lucas components;

---Bypass Chrysler Corporation's problematic "Lean Burn"

     engine system of the 1970's;

---Convert certain 1960's cars to disk brakes;

     and so on.

 

I wouldn't want this to become a hot-rodder's site in the least;

but antique car owners might see a need for "modifying and customizing"

certain elements, just as an 1898 Benz was converted from

a hot-tube-and-batting fuel delivery to a carburetor, as mentioned

in our club's own magazine as far back as 1947.

 

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I have a problem here in that this says "AACA Forums" and does not exclude the marque forums (e.g. Reatta) which may or may not be "25 years or older". Certainly when I started posting my 88 was only 13 years old.  As a consequence since there is no distinction, I have to check all (except religion and politics - Jim Bakker did have a Corvette though).

 

Now if we decide to make certain forums for "as left the factory at least 25 years ago" that is fine, but only apply to those forums where it is appropriate.

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