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Any modern cars you admire, or aspire to acquire?

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The last modern car that I really admired and aspired to own was my 2000 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport. A small, peppy 5-speed wagon that could go anywhere. They don't make fun cars like that anymore, newer Subarus are much bigger and have too many electronic bells and whistles, plus I don't really like their current styling. Nobody makes small all-wheel-drive wagons, now it's a choice between an econobox hatchback or a Jeep. I looked forever for a nice Outback Sport. Loved that car. But after a couple of years I stupidly sold it, because I was living in NYC and got tired of shifting in traffic jams every day - so I got a Forester with automatic instead. Big mistake, as I soon found out about the infamous head gaskets, and then I moved away from NY, to where I could've been enjoying driving a 5-speed...  So maybe some day I'll look for another one of these.

 

Other than that, no. I like some modern cars more than others, but none inspire admiration or aspiration. I have no use for sports cars and exotica, and current models don't really have my kind of personality. 

 

 

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I like my 2015 Tundra. My son tried to talk me into trading it in and even brought me to a Toyota dealership one time. I just don’t like most modern cars, so this short old lady has stuck with the 2015 Tundra that I have to jump up into because I don’t have running boards. 

 

I guess I’d take a Challenger R/T if I could afford one, but only if I could keep the PU too. I also have a fondness for Mercedes SLK’s from the late 90’s on. (Retractable Hard Top). The truth is I’d probably buy much older cars if I had the money. 

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48 minutes ago, Big Beat said:

I have no use for sports cars and exotica, and current models don't really have my kind of personality. 

 

I feel much the same way.  If you want a 2-door car 

or a convertible today, it has to be a sports car

or a subcompact.  And those, practically, seat only two

people.

 

Manufacturers have forgotten about full-size and

mid-size coupes and convertibles.  The last full-sized

2-door cars in the U. S. were the 1987 Ford Crown Victoria

and Mercury Marquis, and they could seat six.  How about

a 2-door big Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, or Lexus?

 

 

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Merc SLK R170s are quite undervalued (good ones well under $10k) at the moment and do not have the engine issues of the later ones. I'd prefer a '01-'03 (facelift) SLK320. Same drivetrain used for may years in sedans.

My SLK320 (automatic) is easy to work on and my project car is a SLK230 (5 speed) I paid less than a large for (but needs hydromechanical assembly).

Suspect prices are down because people are scared of them. Is a wealth of information and a strong forum online. First SLK230s will be AACA eligible next year.

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None, thank you. I will stick with my vintage cars.

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The only new car I would consider is a newer turbo version of my 2013 Mini convertible. Overall the Mini is just a fun car to drive, great mileage, responsive handling and a good ride. My son is 6'4" and he fits in it without a problem. You do tend to rub elbows with the passenger though. I don't have to the turbo model, so that would be an upgrade for sure.

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I've got 110K miles on it and after warranty was over, it never went back to the dealer. I don't know how anyone could afford to have the dealer work on their Mini or BMW. I changed the thermostat last year and paid $75 for the part and spent about 2 or 3 hours doing the repair. The thermostat is built into a large plastic housing which has 4 hoses going to it. Not fun to change, but better than the $700 the dealer charges. Same with the timing chain, struts, hubs, trans fluid, brakes, water pump......all very expensive to have repaired at the dealer.

 

I sold my 1995 Ranger 2 years ago because I needed a more dependable truck to haul furniture etc. I bought the truck new and had almost 200K miles on it.

I bought a Colorado truck as a replacement but it's not the same. I miss having a smaller truck where I don't need a step ladder and I can reach into the bed easily.

 

I have a 65 Electra convertible for real cruising along with the top down. It gets 10 mpg no matter how I drive. The don't make em that big anymore. No complicated electronics either.

My wife drives a 2017 Outback. A lot of electronics but not as much as the newer models.

I haven't had any computer issues with the Mini thus far. I did have to buy special tools and testers to do my own work, but like I mentioned before, It is just a fun car to drive. And a good car to drive in the snow too.

 

 

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This is a very nice driver for way less than $10k. Reborn XK-E Type aka 1998 Jag XK8. Runs and drives phenomenal. This rig is 22 years old already!

 

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3 hours ago, victorialynn2 said:

I like my 2015 Tundra. My son tried to talk me into trading it in and even brought me to a Toyota dealership one time. I just don’t like most modern cars, so this short old lady has stuck with the 2015 Tundra that I have to jump up into because I don’t have running boards. 

 

I guess I’d take a Challenger R/T if I could afford one, but only if I could keep the PU too. I also have a fondness for Mercedes SLK’s from the late 90’s on. (Retractable Hard Top). The truth is I’d probably buy much older cars if I had the money. 

If you are going to buy a SLK make sure the top works! 

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31 minutes ago, Ed Luddy said:

If you are going to buy a SLK make sure the top works! 

Yes, I’m familiar with making sure tops work. I hear there are more issues with the slk’s then the Ford I have though. 

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26 minutes ago, victorialynn2 said:

Yes, I’m familiar with making sure tops work. I hear there are more issues with the slk’s then the Ford I have though. 

 Yes the hydraulics are problematic from what I've been told, same as the SL series. Then electric gremlins  double conspire!

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Padgett,  did I miss something?  Jeep has a one million mile warranty  that lasts for 87 years?  Might be enough to make me reconsider my self imposed lifetime ban on Chrysler products.   Maybe

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11 hours ago, plymouthcranbrook said:

Padgett,  did I miss something?  Jeep has a one million mile warranty  that lasts for 87 years?  Might be enough to make me reconsider my self imposed lifetime ban on Chrysler products.   Maybe

If you re read it again you will notice many misspelled words, I suspect a typographical error.  

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-How 'bout these 1980's Toyota land cruisers with 200,000 miles selling for more than they cost new? -Absolutely blows my mind.

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1 hour ago, md murray said:

-How 'bout these 1980's Toyota land cruisers with 200,000 miles selling for more than they cost new? -Absolutely blows my mind.

 

How about 1980's Toyota anything? Well no, the author if you remember said in the last ten years.

I'll post a few;

                                       Altima FWD 3.5 V-6, 4 passenger Coupe;

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                                                              Infiniti 3.5 V-6 RWD G35-37, 4 passenger Coupes:

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  Nissan RWD 3.5 V-6 350 and 370Z 2 passenger sports car coupe and convertible. 

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15 hours ago, md murray said:

-How 'bout these 1980's Toyota land cruisers with 200,000 miles selling for more than they cost new? -Absolutely blows my mind.

 

I admire some of the Lexus LS sedans from 1990 up:

reliable, powerful, comfortable.  Some of the first I even saw

with cloth interiors.  Then for a while the styling wasn't as good;

then it came around again to good styling.

However, I don't at all like their current growling abstract grilles.

 

Here's a good-looking first generation LS400:

 

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2 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:

 

I admire some of the Lexus LS sedans from 1990 up:

reliable, powerful, comfortable.  Some of the first I even saw

with cloth interiors.  Then for a while the styling wasn't as good;

then it came around again to good styling.

However, I don't at all like their current growling abstract grilles.

 

Here's a good-looking first generation LS400:

 

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I had likened the newer Lexus grilles to the predator's mouth. The resemblance is quite similar.

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Corvette C7, I am not a fan of Corvettes although I had fun in a beat up 68 roadster as a teenager in the late 70's. There is something about the size and no nonsense  look of the C7 coupes and ragtops. I saw a dark green convertible parked at a restaurant about a year ago and couldn't take my eyes of of it.

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Since this thread began asking what we would own as a modern car I wish to add my most recent experiences.  In 2011 I bought a new VW GTI which has been the most trouble free car I have owned.  Today it passed PA safety and emissions inspections with absolutely no issues at 113,585 miles.  It had one recall for a fuel rail issue some years ago which was repaired under warranty.  Amazingly, it still has the original brake rotors and pads!  Granted, I typically drive 30 to 70 mile one way trips and change the oil and filter every 5,000 miles.  I have considered replacing it, since I will have owned it 9 years next month, but the only new car I am considering at this time would be a new GTI, since there's a 260 hp model coming out later this year.  The 200 hp mine has is more than sufficient for a daily driver and for a couple of years I autocrossed it in SCCA and finished 2nd in class each year.  A few months after buying the GTI I bought a 2001 Porsche Boxster which is a more fun car to drive and has been my autocross ride the past five seasons.  I was pleased to see the Boxster mentioned a few times in earlier postings as a car others have had or are considering and have to say it's one of the most affordable fun rides available.  It also helps to have an excellent independent garage close by that does not charge what a dealer would for routine work.  As for collectible cars, I would advise sticking with those from the analog era rather than today's digital vehicles.

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Since this thread began asking what we would own as a modern car I wish to add my most recent experiences.  In 2011 I bought a new VW GTI which has been the most trouble free car I have owned.  Today it passed PA safety and emissions inspections with absolutely no issues at 113,585 miles.  It had one recall for a fuel rail issue some years ago which was repaired under warranty.  Amazingly, it still has the original brake rotors and pads!  Granted, I typically drive 30 to 70 mile one way trips and change the oil and filter every 5,000 miles.  I have considered replacing it, since I will have owned it 9 years next month, but the only new car I am considering at this time would be a new GTI, since there's a 260 hp model coming out later this year.  The 200 hp mine has is more than sufficient for a daily driver and for a couple of years I autocrossed it in SCCA and finished 2nd in class each year.  A few months after buying the GTI I bought a 2001 Porsche Boxster which is a more fun car to drive and has been my autocross ride the past five seasons.  I was pleased to see the Boxster mentioned a few times in earlier postings as a car others have had or are considering and have to say it's one of the most affordable fun rides available.  It also helps to have an excellent independent garage close by that does not charge what a dealer would for routine work.  As for collectible cars, I would advise sticking with those from the analog era rather than today's digital vehicles.

 

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@Pfeil Glad to see someone mentioned modern cars with the venerable Nissan VQ engine.

I've owned a 2002 Nissan Altima SE 3.5 since new and it has been bulletproof.

With 229k miles on the clock I have only had to replace one fuel injector and the fuel rail pressure regulator.

Everything else under the hood is original, except for wear items like plugs, of course.

 

It still has plenty of power even with all the miles.

 

Back in 2004 or so, I saw a bone stock 2002 3.5 Altima run a 14.2 quarter mile at an open drag night. Don't remember trap speed.

That quarter mile time puts it in line with a lot of classic muscle cars of the 60's and 70's.

Not bad at all for a 4-door family car.

 

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1 hour ago, zepher said:

@Pfeil Glad to see someone mentioned modern cars with the venerable Nissan VQ engine.

I've owned a 2002 Nissan Altima SE 3.5 since new and it has been bulletproof.

With 229k miles on the clock I have only had to replace one fuel injector and the fuel rail pressure regulator.

Everything else under the hood is original, except for wear items like plugs, of course.

 

It still has plenty of power even with all the miles.

 

Back in 2004 or so, I saw a bone stock 2002 3.5 Altima run a 14.2 quarter mile at an open drag night. Don't remember trap speed.

That quarter mile time puts it in line with a lot of classic muscle cars of the 60's and 70's.

Not bad at all for a 4-door family car.

 

 

You are right about the VQ engine and it's been on the ten best engines ever built for over ten years now. I have the 4.0 version in my 2019 truck. Another thing I like about the engine is it's made in the U.S.A. The engine foundry is in Tennessee. My truck has way more U.S. content than G.M., Ford or Chrysler.   

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On 1/21/2020 at 7:40 AM, 60FlatTop said:

What's under the tarp?

giant size slip-cover sofa on the way to the dumps, some other furniture and misc. and some roofing material too.

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 For this thread, I will consider modern cars 2000 & up. There is pretty much only one car since 2000 that I absolutely love (not counting $3-400K Super cars) & I finally purchased it almost 2 years ago.

 

  In 2004 when the 1st Cadillac XLR came out, I immediately fell in love with the body style & the retractable hardtop.It was built in Bowling Green at the Corvette Plant & is on a Corvette Chassis with all the Cadillac toys. At the time I was driving a 97 El Dorado ETC with the Barritz package as my summer, out to dinner, date , dry road car & was very happy with it, The XLR was using the same Northstar engine which ran really good in the ETC (310HP). Unfortunately I had just purchased this house land & shop, so another toy was not in the cards as I was also pouring money into the shop to make it the way I wanted.

 

  Fast forward a couple of years & Cadillac came out with a limited production XLR-V with a different Supercharged engine...I was drooling but didn't want to be the one to spend the 100k+ & take the depreciation hit, so I waited. I sold the ETC in 2017 & started looking for the best available XLR-V. About a year & a half later this one finally came up, never damaged, original paint, never in snow or salt, etc. I jumped on it & will probably keep it for many years!

 

2007 Cadillac XLR_V  Roadster with retractable hardtop & an all aluminum Supercharged V-8 443 HP stock 30,000 miles. Production of this year "V" optioned cars is a little over 400

 

God Bless

Bill

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/nationwide-single-car-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Bills Auto Works said:

 ... I was driving a 97 El Dorado ETC with the Biarritz package...

I sold the ETC in 2017 & started looking for the best available XLR-V. 

 

Bill, I've never seen an Eldorado of that generation

with a vinyl roof and the side trim of the Biarritz.

I think it much improves the overall design.  I didn't

know that the Biarritz package was even offered on

that style of Eldorado.

 

And your Cadillac XLR looks good, too.  That's a

model that is already becoming collectible in Cadillac clubs.

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