bluenose25 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I have two old pictures in the family, taken at an uncle's house, of what I believe to be a 1959 Vauxhall. I was hoping to find a picture of a restored one, or one in a catalogue, with the same body lines, features and colouring but I just can't quite seem to match these pictures with anything entirely. I can see that there is a gently curving body line from the headlight to the rear end. It does look like a chrome piece ends the black-looking upper part ha;f way across the rear door. There is an unusual indent below the driver door. The front chrome is like two parts - a horizontal section where the turn indicators are and a rectangular, possibly oval, grille. There is chrome across the lower part of the rear quarter panel.The roof seems to stick out a bit over the rear window. The image is scanned from a slide and colour correcting has not removed enough of the red tint to be able to tell what the original colour combination was. I have done google image searches for 1958, 1959, and 1960. I have seen pictures of similar cars but I actually did not find even one with this same side body line. The car was bought in Canada. I do know the dog's name - Jojo. Would anyone be able to tell me a little bit more about this car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Being a Canadian car I've looked for an Envoy to see if it matched since GM sold them under that name in Canada, however, so far no luck with a match Edited January 11, 2020 by 3macboys (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose25 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 The original owners were family friends. Their daughter is the one who called it a '59 Vauxhall, as soon as she saw the picture. She said: "We did not have that car for long as my dad was involved in an accident that pretty much totalled it." I don't think a repair would change the body side, would it? I'll take a look for Envoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) A strange Vauxhall because it is a Austin Cambridge or something closely related from the BMC "Farina " line up. { Morris Oxford, and sundry Riley and Wolseley badge engineered machines }. Greg in Canada Edited January 11, 2020 by 1912Staver (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, 1912Staver said: A strange Vauxhall because it is a Austin Cambridge or something closely related from the BMC "Farina " line up. { Morris Oxford, and sundry Riley and Wolseley badge engineered machines }. Greg in Canada Greg is absolutely correct. Here's a 59 Austin Cambridge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose25 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 You got it. I found an image of one from your description. No wonder Vauxhall searches were not working. Here is a link to this pic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Cambridge#/media/File:Austin_A55_mkII_Cambridge_1959_front.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose25 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Thanks for the replies. Now to break the news to the daughter. Another wikipedia pic, of the rear end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Cambridge#/media/File:Austin_A55_Cambridge_MII_Rear.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playswithbrass Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I believe that is a Vauxhall Victor my parents had one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, playswithbrass said: I believe that is a Vauxhall Victor my parents had one Nope GM Vauxhall Victor / Envoy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Victor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envoy_(automobile) Post 1 if a BMC Farina, which as above, was badge engineered as several brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Motor_Corporation#BMC_Farina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Oxford_Farina Austin's have different more crinkly grille And better cars than Vauxhall's Edited January 11, 2020 by 1939_Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose25 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 This does have the same lines. "The Oxford (Farina) competed with models such as the Singer Gazelle and Vauxhall Victor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Here's a FLEET of Austin Cambridges! Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) All the Austin's were quite popular in Canada. And Nash Metropolitan's, same powertrain as a Cambridge. Even the more expensive Westminster with the 6 cyl drivetrain also used in the Austin Healey 3000's .. One I seldom see is the big Austin Princess. A fish out of water in the North American market. Greg in Canada Edited January 11, 2020 by 1912Staver (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose25 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 I know the family was quite proud of the car. They took at least two photos that day - one with the family in front of the car and one with the car by itself. (Jojo got to be in both pics.) Jojo was a dog who thought he was a loner but he knew it wouldn't last, Jojo left his home with Austin Cambridge owner 'til they parked on backyard grass, (you know the rest of the words...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, 1912Staver said: All the Austin's were quite popular in Canada. And Nash Metropolitan's, same powertrain as a Cambridge. Even the more expensive Westminster with the 6 cyl drivetrain also used in the Austin Healey 3000's .. One I seldom see is the big Austin Princess. A fish out of water in the North American market. Greg in Canada The Austin Princess was a large car that dated from the late 1940's. The Farina bodied version was the Vanden Plas Princess 4-Liter R which used a Rolls Royce Scout engine. Edited January 12, 2020 by 8E45E (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Both are definite rarity's in North America. I have seen a few of the early ones like the black one above . But I can't recall ever seeing one of the later Farina version here in Canada. Were the later ones ever officially imported ? Or the North American ones something that someone privately imported ? Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, 1912Staver said: But I can't recall ever seeing one of the later Farina version here in Canada. Were the later ones ever officially imported ? Or the North American ones something that someone privately imported ? Greg in Canada Yes. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I don't know if the Princess 4 liter R was officially imported to Canada but there were a few around. I see one advertised from time to time for a too high price, stressing its Rolls Royce heritage. Maybe it sold, I haven't seen the ad for a while. Have also seen a few of the older limousine type. Often advertised for weddings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Luddy Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Austin Cambridge's were very popular on the East coast of Canada in the 50's and 60's. Along with Morris, Ford Anglia, Zodiac's, etc. They were cheap and rusty by the time I was driving and a few of my friends had them handed down from their parents. A lot of them came over after the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose25 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I believe that the car was bought new at a dealership in, or near, Port Hope, Ontario. Are there lists of car dealerships from times past available online somewhere? Would this have been a domestic dealership selling a line of imports or would this be an imported car dealership? I did find Toronto dealership pictures here. https://www.blogto.com/city/2017/01/what-car-dealerships-used-look-toronto/ If no Austin dealers in the port Hope area, maybe is was bought in Toronto. Austin Motors, corner of Yonge and Davenport, 1950's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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