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A car that says '1942 model year' Maybe a Blackout?

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I love the history of the 1942 model year. I would love to have a car that says '1942 model year' . 

 

Preferably original, the kind of thing that someone would have been rationed to buy in 1943-44.

Maybe a car that was kinda '1942 only' like a Mopar town sedan(?) (conventional opening rear doors) 

 

Are there any original black out cars out there?

 

The restored, shinny, chromed, whitewall 42s just dont seem real (or historical) to me.

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Awhile back there was a '42 Buick for sale in original olive drab.

Four door sedan, but I don't know if it was a Roadmaster or not.

 

Mike in Colorado

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12 hours ago, m-mman said:

I love the history of the 1942 model year. I would love to have a car that says '1942 model year' . 

 

Preferably original, the kind of thing that someone would have been rationed to buy in 1943-44.

Maybe a car that was kinda '1942 only' like a Mopar town sedan(?) (conventional opening rear doors) 

 

Are there any original black out cars out there?

 

The restored, shinny, chromed, whitewall 42s just dont seem real (or historical) to me.

Just to inform....1942 was not the only year for the town sedan with those doors.

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1 hour ago, keiser31 said:

Just to inform....1942 was not the only year for the town sedan with those doors.

 

Yeah, I know 41 had them, and maybe 40?   (would have to check) 

They are scarce, (and nice looking)  and would make a rare car (42) even more rare. 

They didnt carry them over into 46, so that kind of seals them as a 42 also. 

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as far as saying "1942,", how about a DeSoto?  The hidden headlights were not revived in 1946.

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I do have a 42 NY Highlander Town Sedan available. Virginia car, not black out and needs restoration. PM me and we can talk. Very affordable. Located in central MD. Rob

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1942 Studebaker President or Commander with the wider grille, and new dash design that was unique to those two models.

 

Unlike the Champion, the President and Commander were not offered as a 1946 model.  The Commander and Land Cruisers for 1947 were based on the new postwar Raymond Lowey design.  And the President name was not revived until 1955.

 

Craig

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22 hours ago, FLYER15015 said:

Awhile back there was a '42 Buick for sale in original olive drab.

Four door sedan, but I don't know if it was a Roadmaster or not.

 

Windy Hill auto parts had a original 42 Buick Special sedan, factory olive drab blackout. Neat car!  

Mild steel window molding trim (not stainless) pot metal NOT chromed.  

However it was as rough as a cob and sadly not restorable. I took pictures. 

 

NATMUS has a 42 Hudson. Original blackout (very unrestored) with signage highlighting the blackout features.

IIRC it is right hand drive(?) but a top line Commordore 8. . . . ??  Maybe a rural mail delivery car or could have been destined for overseas delivery but not possible because of the war . . . interesting. 

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Mopar had town sedans post war, certainly in the Dodge model line (ref. https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/effortless-cruiser-1948-dodge-d24-town-sedan/).  I know or at least two locally - seem to come up for sale along the west coast.

 

Blackouts models came as chromed parts supplies ran out, before car production ceased all together.  I know of a 1942 Plymouth coupe that was all chrome, except one sun visor bracket.  I gave my teenage son my 1942 Chrysler Windsor sedan project.  For some time there has been a relatively low mileage green 1942 Dodge sedan for sale in Seattle, though I cannot find ad so it may have sold.  You might try some searching, if it is of interest.

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Here's one you'd have to explain to everyone at a car show why it has wood bumpers.  They MUST be rare as I've never seen one.

 

Craig

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I’ll bet the first thing after the war ended folks with wood bumpers and no spare bought shiny metal bumpers and a spare tire. I have a ‘47 and a ‘48 (different makes) and they are chock full of shiny metal on the front.  ...and lots of “accessories” which is a different, but interesting post war car sales story.

 

Here’s a thread specifically discussing 1942 Dodge with some good pictures and discussion of blackout parts:  

 

 

But I digress...  

 

m-mman is looking for a 1942 blackout auto

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Material shortages had some post war cars delivered with wooden bumpers which reportedly were replaced later as supplies became available.

1945 Hudson wood bumpers.jpg

 

The dolled up 46-8 cars were an effort to squeeze extra profit and get around the Office of Price Administration (OPA) controls on the maximum amount that could be charged for a new car.  

 

These were such interesting times and they are not well understood by many collectors. 

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the last civilian automobile built in 1942, was a 1942 Pontiac that rolled off the assembly line on February 10th 1942.

 

 

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The days of what were called "cardboard" license plates,weren't they actually made from soy bean stalks? Some people that had goats found that their plates had been eaten off the car. This 1944 Wyoming is made of that and I believe the only year they did.

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On 1/1/2020 at 9:40 PM, m-mman said:

Are there any original black out cars out there?

 

Yes, I saw an unrestored "blackout" 1942 Chevrolet

in the LeMay Museum in Tacoma, Washington.

It is in excellent condition and is all original.

It's evidently the same example as 8E45E Craig posted above:

 

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Although you don't feel a 1942 model seems correct if it has chrome, about 88% of the 42 Mopar models were produced before the chrome restrictions.  And even the last 42 Plymouth to roll off the line had chrome bumpers.  Trim was blacked out or omitted but bumpers were not required to be.  In some cases the parts were already chrome plates and paint was put over the chrome to make it correct.

 

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As recommended, the 1942 Studebaker President and Commander didn't return in their pre-war form, carry one-year-only styling on a two-year-only body series.  The President Eight is the last straight eight Studebaker.  A 1942 Nash Ambassador Eight is also the last straight eight for the Nash, the body carried over for 1946-'48.  Hudson fielded its last Commodore Series 27 8-passenger sedan on the 128" wheelbase.

 

If a Mopar is your choice. the 1942 DeSoto Town Sedan with either the Fifth Avenue or Sportsman trim options or a seven passenger sedan or limousine would be quite unique.  But the ultimate 1942-only model is the Plymouth P14C Town Sedan style no. 405.  It was the only model year Plymouth offered such a body style, only 5,821 were built.

 

Good luck in your pursuit of a rare 1942 model.

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My first car, in 1960, was a 1942 Chevrolet blackout 4 door sedan.  85,000 miles and it ran very well and was a clean totally original car. Painted bumpers, grill, chrome, stainless, hubcaps, a very green car. I wire brushed the paint off the hubcaps and the skin underneath was brass.  No radio,  Only an 18 year old car at that time.

 

I still have the title to the car, which is titled as a 1948. The California DMV said that was the first year it was ever registered, since it was a military surplus car. 

 

     " Herbie" named after the 85 year old fellow who sold it to me, was where I learned the hard way about replacing non-detergent oil in an old engine that is running fine, with high detergent oil. Herbie went from a car that didn't smoke or use oil, to a total smoke bomb in just a few days. I killed it with kindness, so to speak.  Jim43

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This is Dale in Montana I believe I have a couple back out Fords, one is a Ford truck, I would have to dig the title out, but the way I remember it’s 42 or 43 the other is a Ford jeep witch may not count! (No Title) dale.tharp@gmail.com

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I have a 1942 Packard Clipper. it has chrome grill and bumpers but the head light is  black.

 A guy told me  to be for military it would all be  black.

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This 1942 Packard 110 Series photo caught my eye via black headlight rims.

 

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