ron hausmann Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 June 19, 2020, fender fitting underway. also shown is a brass plaque from a true 1918 US Army Ammunition Truck for a body made by Heil Co. in Milwaukee. Ron Hausmann P.E. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 As of today, June 24, 2020 - 1. Rear fenders have been shaped, stretched, and mounted. Some minor repairs to be done, but they fit. This s rare because Kissel fenders were mandrel-made and then best matched at the factory. Then they were stretched on with. Inch effort. Also, I had two good right rear fenders so I had to turn a right into a left by removing the interior mud guard. You now can’t tell. 2. Almost all compartment doors and hardware have been made and mounted. 3. Steering column mounts have been installed. The long column weight and torque will be distributed on the cowl and top floorboard. 4. Seat design and dimensions relative to the steering column and pedal locations, has been done. The “fit” for the driver will be tight but quite comfortable! I might shorten the steering column shafts by 3”-4” to ,Abe it perfect but this might not be worth the three or four days effort. 5. All driver compartment Floorboards and instrument panel box have been finished. See pictures. Because we have a flat one board cowl, it needed a hollow behind the instrument panel to house the speedometer body, wiring, etc. 6. Now will load up engine block and parts and take to St. Claire Engine, my Kissels engine rebuilder. 7. Now will work on fitment of Front fenders. Once that is done, I can reliably measure the floorboard sizes. 8. Also located a replica French 75 cannon In rural France. This World War One Truck could function as a tow vehicle for Light field artillery And I’m debating adding a heavy hitch to do just that. And figuring out how much to pay for a fake cannon in France. 9. Now will start first coat painting and sanding of body. I have to be careful not to do too good a job since these trucks were brush-painted by drafted soldiers in Europe in most cases. And using field mixed paints of varying quality. Here are pictures of a few more contemporary vehicles like mine. Ron Hausmann P.E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 Here are progress photos today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Ron, the build is coming along great. As for the iron in France.......”Happiness is having a big gun!” 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 Full views as of yesterday. Fenders fit! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylormade Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Ron, this is really coming along nicely. My only concern is the fenders. They seem awfully high compared to the period photos you’ve posted. The rear wheel also looks to be too far forward in relation to the fender. Not nitpicking as I do not have the talent or fabrication skills to take on a project like this. Do you expect the truck to settle down once the motor and drivetrain are installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Macartney Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 I am sure it will be much lower with engine, gearbox and a bunch of Doughboys in the back. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush Mechanic Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Very nice build, Sir. Those new springs will have to settle six inches to fill the wheel arches, though. Have you thrown a few bags of cement in her yet, to see how it sits? I don't wish to offend, but at the moment the gap between wheel and guard is a little too large, to my eye. I reckon it's in the springs, as the hangers look to be horizontal. As the weight goes on, the hangers may need a tweak with a lever to head them in the right direction. But looking at your other builds, I'm sure you're on top of this, anyway, so I'm probably teaching my Grandmother to suck eggs. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Incredible work Ron! Fantastic truck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Simply wonderful Ron. Can't wait to see it all done! T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 14 hours ago, Bush Mechanic said: Very nice build, Sir. Those new springs will have to settle six inches to fill the wheel arches, though. Have you thrown a few bags of cement in her yet, to see how it sits? I don't wish to offend, but at the moment the gap between wheel and guard is a little too large, to my eye. I reckon it's in the springs, as the hangers look to be horizontal. As the weight goes on, the hangers may need a tweak with a lever to head them in the right direction. But looking at your other builds, I'm sure you're on top of this, anyway, so I'm probably teaching my Grandmother to suck eggs. Apologies. bush - no offense .yes he rear fenders are too high. I will slice off the front 4-6” of both of them to bring the tops down. He rear ends of these fenders can’t be brought down because that would ruin proportions and interfere with grease fittings. They are correct fenders but the rear springs are higher, more sprung than a car. The tire in relation to the f3nder is correc5 for a 1918 fender. See 1918 Sedanlett3 picture. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 All - As of July 6, much detail work has been accomplished and body is nearing completion. 1. Both rear fenders have been cut down In the fronts to make up for the taller truck spring height. This has eliminated much of the open area above the tires and now they look like they should, not so high. Still need to make pe4manent mounts on sides of truck. 2. New under-seat gas tank has been pe4manently mounted and prepped. This is correct location for this style WW1 truck. Gas piping has been fabricated but won’t be installed until engine is in. 3. Front drivers seating covers have been finished. See pictures. There will be a small walkway in between the separate front seat springs To allow acces# from front to cargo hold. 4. First Aid cabinet above the front passenger shoulder has been completed and hardware applied. 5. Faux rivets At the rear step gate have been fashioned to disguise The modern Phillips screw mounts. This week, fenders and misc. parts go to sandblaster and engine parts go to Engine rebuilder Sanding and painting body wil now start in earnest Ron Hausmann P.E. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBKissel Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 It's really shaping up- looks good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Ron, I know the Phillips head screws weren’t around in 1917. You made the rivet covers to hide them. The question I have is would they have used rivets or straight blade screws? Thanks Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Mike "Hubbie" Stearns said: Ron, I know the Phillips head screws weren’t around in 1917. You made the rivet covers to hide them. The question I have is would they have used rivets or straight blade screws? Thanks Mike hey mike - they probably would have used straight screw bolts, but it’s easier to fill in Phillips crosses than to try to halffill them to look like old screws. I’m lazy.😎 thanks, Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike "Hubbie" Stearns Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I understand that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I think they might have used carriage bolts. They were commonly used for purposes like that and I'm sure there are others here who have struggled getting them out when old and rusty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Had to post a picture of the truck that I took today with my beautiful wife Esther. She’s taking much more interest in this truck than any of my other cars, including the Kissel Gold Bug. Go figure! Ron Hausmann 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 My Mrs. can’t stand my Pierce Arrows, but loves to go for rides in the 1915 T. Go figure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 As of July 14, 2020, a. Running boards have been cut, covered, trimmed with aluminum, and fitted to truck and fenders. If you have never fitted these types, it’s quite a challenge warping everything to work. b. Rear fender mounting lips, 1” wide and covered with aluminum, have been created. These will make the out-to-out rear fender width the exact same as the fronts. That way the running boards remain exactly squared. c. Rear fender interior metal tub skirts have been cut, painted, and mounted (green in pictures). Kissels did not have exposed wood on any fender interiors. d. Rear fenders have been trimmed and lowered to accommodate higher truck springs. Now they have the same clearances as a 1918 Kissel car. e. Bought paint. Am using rustoleum camouflage “1917 kaki”. If they say it’s 1917 camp color, I’ll take their word for it. thanks. ron hausmann 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Very, very nice Ron! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch cab Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I'm enjoying your work greatly. Where did you get your running board covering and aluminum trim? I'm in the process of finishing my running boards and looking options. Thanks, John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 John, I bought my Running board covering and aluminum trim at Restoration Supply. They have a good selection. The running boards themselves are oak plywood, painted black, and with a very good adhesive to bind the vinyl to the board. Without a good adhesive, the vinyl can bubble up sitting in the sun over the years. Thanks, Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stretch cab Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Thanks Ron, I expect to buy the moldings and cover I need from them as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 All - As of July 31, 2020, we have completed the front flooring trim, the rear flooring fitting, painting and sanding of body, and started applying the insignia. I used “1917 kaki” camouflage by rustoleum As paint color. Looks good! Work coming up; a. Mounting steering column ( I had a machinist reduce it by 5” due to truck configuration) b. Mounting seating and walkway c. Painting and mounting rear fenders d. Painting and mounting front fenders e. Installing instruments and associated wiring. f. Mounting hood and hood hardware. G. Mounting military tail light I procured “regulation” 4” height stencils for lettering. Not happy with quality of letters, but that mediocre quality is corrEtc for a truck. Thanks, Ron 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBKissel Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Really looking great! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 These turned out great 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Here you go.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Harper Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Looks great! Are you planning to take it to any re-enactments? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Terry Harper said: Looks great! Are you planning to take it to any re-enactments? Not sure at this time. Still trying to locate a light WW1 artillery piece or repro that I can tow around. These are very hard to come by. The 120 th artillery regiment designation is accurate. The First Wisconsin National Guard Cavalry was merged into the 120 th US Field Artillery regiment when the Wisconsin National Guard was federalized in 1917. The Wisconsin and Michigan National Guards formed the “Red Arrow” 32nd Division then of the U S Expeditionary Force. This is important to me as a Wisconsin and Michigan Resident and with Kissels being made in Wisconsin. Thanks, Ron 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 1:44 PM, ron hausmann said: Not sure at this time. Still trying to locate a light WW1 artillery piece or repro that I can tow around. These are very hard to come by. Might be too big but IMA has a howitzer for sale: https://www.ima-usa.com/products/wwi-155m-howitzer?variant=26157261701 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lahti35 said: Might be too big but IMA has a howitzer for sale: https://www.ima-usa.com/products/wwi-155m-howitzer?variant=26157261701 Lahti35 - A heavy 155mm Cannon on a double mount would be to big in both weight and scale. This truck can tow up to 4000 safely but a light field cannon, like a US 75, A French 75, or a mountain gun would be ideal. Smaller and in the 2500 lb category. In the 1920’s many French 75’s were retrofitted with pneumatic tires which I would need in any case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 When the US Army embarked for France most of the smaller field guns...I think they were 3" - were left behind. The artillery was re-equippped with French 75s. After the war the French sent several hundred of them (they were worn out) to America to be used for war monuments. The army retained many more but most of those were sent to England after Dunkirk. The war monument 75s are still around...I remember one in a local scrap yard many years ago and you still see them from time to time on WWI monuments. They have to have the breech welded shut because otherwise they are classified as "destructive devices" and require a class 3 Federal license to own. A 155 howitzer would be much too heavy. Most of those were still horse drawn or pulled by artillery tractors. What would be cool - and likely more work than a field gun. would be the Army mobile machine shop. It was a trailer set up with small machines. I've seen pictures and, oddly enough, the machines could be found and wouldn't be terribly expensive but building the entire trailer would be more work than the body of your excellent truck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, ron hausmann said: Lahti35 - A heavy 155mm Cannon on a double mount would be to big in both weight and scale. This truck can tow up to 4000 safely but a light field cannon, like a US 75, A French 75, or a mountain gun would be ideal. Smaller and in the 2500 lb category. In the 1920’s many French 75’s were retrofitted with pneumatic tires which I would need in any case. Might be worth keeping an eye on Auctionarms.com or Gunbroker.com, artillery shows up there from time to time. Maybe a nice 37mm would make an appearance, I have seen 3" guns listed there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 hours ago, JV Puleo said: When the US Army embarked for France most of the smaller field guns...I think they were 3" - were left behind. The artillery was re-equippped with French 75s. After the war the French sent several hundred of them (they were worn out) to America to be used for war monuments. The army retained many more but most of those were sent to England after Dunkirk. The war monument 75s are still around...I remember one in a local scrap yard many years ago and you still see them from time to time on WWI monuments. They have to have the breech welded shut because otherwise they are classified as "destructive devices" and require a class 3 Federal license to own. A 155 howitzer would be much too heavy. Most of those were still horse drawn or pulled by artillery tractors. What would be cool - and likely more work than a field gun. would be the Army mobile machine shop. It was a trailer set up with small machines. I've seen pictures and, oddly enough, the machines could be found and wouldn't be terribly expensive but building the entire trailer would be more work than the body of your excellent truck. Thank you JV - I’m not really looking for a real live canon but a repro or a monument or salute gun would be ideal. But these seem unavailable as nobody is selling monuments. I’ve talked with artillery collectors who advise that 1915-1930 ish field pieces are very very rare. And French 75’s in any deactivated state are non existent. I’ll keep looking and praying - - - - Take care. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottG Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Hello Ron, my name is Scott and I am the President of Michigan's Military Heritage Museum in Grass Lake. We have a friend of the museum who lives in Monroe that has an original French 75mm gun and caisson. I expect him out at the museum this weekend as he is delivering a set of cannon wheels for our Civil War cannon. We are also the home to Michigan's WW1 Centennial Commission and I believe that the Chairman, Dennis Skupinski will be contacting you as well. Love the restoration on the Kissel! We have just completed a 1917 Model T ambulance and it is just finishing its motor trials and getting ready to come into the museum. It too was done in 32nd Division markings for the 125th Infantry "Detroit's Light Guard". Feel free to call me at the museum if you want to know more about the 75mm gun. We are open Wed, Sat and Sun 11-5 and I am there Wed and Sat. 517-926-6696. Here are a few pics of our T from its original body to about a month ago. All the best, Scott. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron hausmann Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Status update aS of august 25, 2020: 1. Steering column and internals have been shortened by 5” and installed in more vertical truck type position. A lot of tedious work to shorten. 2. Neville type fat-man steering wheel has been refinished and fitted to the new steering shaft configuration. This makes entry a lot easier. The wheel looks stunning, almost too good for a truck! 3. Dietz military tail light and front cowl lights have been painted, wired, and mounted. 4. front apron and side plates have been fitted, drilled and painted. 5. military “US” emblems have been removed and repainted after deciding to make them look like many of the period correct block letter types. My stenciled numbers remain. 6. front seat springs and backrests have been created and test mounted. The colors shown will be covered. The units will be upholstered in black leather in a few months. 7. Miscellaneous trim parts have been applied. We are making good progress as most everything is nearing completion except for engine, fenders, and canvas coverings. Upcoming work includes recore of radiator, taking engine parts to my engine rebuilder, St. Claire Engine Rebuilding, painting and mounting fenders, and instrument cluster work. Still looking for a light field cannon of WW 1 vintage. May have to switch to a machine gun cart. See pictures. Ron hausmann P.E. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Ron, this is a great restoration project to follow. The work and the subject is First Class. Thanks, John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 A 155mm Howitzer seems like a reasonable toy to haul around.........if you can’t have fun with a cannon, how can you ever have any fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 40 years ago those Dietz military lights were commonplace around New England. Every antique and junk shop had a few and many were in new condition. They were used on the horse-drawn equipment too - which is where I think most of them came from. Every local farmer had a WWI horse-drawn Ambulance for a farm wagon. I have a local friend who has a restored example and know where the remains of one have rotted into the ground behind another friend's house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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