John McEwan Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Mattml430 said: Have you tried polishing that out with some autosol metal polish. It doesn’t really look like copper but it might just be the picture. The more it’s polished the worse it gets and spreads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, John McEwan said: The more it’s polished the worse it gets and spreads. It must be nickel if that’s happening because chrome is very hard and wouldn’t normally come off with polishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) My engine is of to the engineers tomorrow to get bored and new hardened valve seats. It will get new pistons and valves. Going . 030”oversize. Will have it back in a few weeks if all goes well so it might be a nice little job to do over the Christmas holidays. Hopefully the border opens and my brother can come down and give me a hand. Proper dodgey brothers there. I think I’ll get the block decked as minimal as possible as well as the head. Give them a nice new surface. Got a box of bits from Tom & Cindy at Myers today. New head bolts , plugs , orange radiator hose,distributor cap and rotor and a heap of other bits and pieces. They are so good to deal with and make it easy. Edited November 10, 2020 by Mattml430 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichBad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Nice! Definitely get the block and head skimmed (or at least checked) - it’s not easy to do the block later:) have you thought about taking a little more off to give a bit more compression? Not sure how much difference it makes on the 6s but am sure it would help (and they were very low as standard)? Perhaps someone out there has tried it and knows what works well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, RichBad said: Nice! Definitely get the block and head skimmed (or at least checked) - it’s not easy to do the block later:) have you thought about taking a little more off to give a bit more compression? Not sure how much difference it makes on the 6s but am sure it would help (and they were very low as standard)? Perhaps someone out there has tried it and knows what works well. Yes mate we have raised the piston height by 1.5mm. Pete is helping me with all the engine mods for the victory. He gets them going pretty well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Machined my flywheel down today after dropping the block of for machining. Took just under 3kg off it. 12.5% of its weight, the theory behind it is to help the engine slow to make gear changes smoother. This is from 2 very experienced fellas with the dodge 6 engine so I’m pretty convinced it will work. Also cleaned up the clutch face which had a bit of runout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aunty norm Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Matt, there are arguments either way and you not convince everyone. But it's your motor! I personal think a little of the flywheel is a good thing, but it's a fine line. Can't wait to see it on the road! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, aunty norm said: Matt, there are arguments either way and you not convince everyone. But it's your motor! I personal think a little of the flywheel is a good thing, but it's a fine line. Can't wait to see it on the road! It will be definitely interesting to see how it goes. Hopefully will have the engine back in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McEwan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Anyone lightened the flywheel on ‘23 or earlier flywheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Made a mess of re assembling my water pump but have corrected it with the help of my good friends on here. Made a start today rebuilding my starter today. It’s in a pretty sorry state. I completely disassembled it and cleaned it all up. I managed to find a pull starter button on eBay a while ago and it’s in great condition. I have to make all new parts for that as it was just the diecast shell. Also found a brand new Bendix spring on gumtree that is identical. The lady gave me a spare second hand one also with the new one. Got 2 for about $15. Edited November 17, 2020 by Mattml430 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) I was lucky enough to be able to borrow a starter switch of Pete to copy all the parts. I’m going to build all the internals tomorrow which will be a little tricky but that’s part of it all. I used an old dipper switch for my button. I dug into the old coin collection for some round copper coins to use for the contacts. I think they will work quite well. Only cost me a penny. 😁 tried to find one from 1929 but was unable to. Might be a hard to get one. And yes I will be removing the Phillips head for a slotted screw it’s just there for assembly purposes. Edited November 17, 2020 by Mattml430 (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenendcindyc Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Mat, once again that starter looks great. If I may ask ,Do you happen to have a picture of your bendix spring? Ever since I’ve had my 28 the starter seems to have a harsh “clunk” when engaging. It might be perfectly normal but seems a bit harsh. It appears they made different strength springs and I’m thinking if I have one that’s weak it could cause this? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert b Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Matt if you need parts for the switch call me Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, robert b said: Matt if you need parts for the switch call me Bob Thanks Bob I’ll see how this goes. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Kenendcindyc said: Mat, once again that starter looks great. If I may ask ,Do you happen to have a picture of your bendix spring? Ever since I’ve had my 28 the starter seems to have a harsh “clunk” when engaging. It might be perfectly normal but seems a bit harsh. It appears they made different strength springs and I’m thinking if I have one that’s weak it could cause this? Thanks Thanks. This is the brand new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenendcindyc Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Thanks Matt, could you measure the width and thickness of the actual steel they used to make the spring. Edited November 18, 2020 by Kenendcindyc Spelling (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Let me know if you need any other measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 This is the original box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenendcindyc Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Ahhhhh Matt, I hate to say it but,I didn’t notice it till I saw the box but I’m 90% sure you need a right hand spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kenendcindyc said: Ahhhhh Matt, I hate to say it but,I didn’t notice it till I saw the box but I’m 90% sure you need a right hand spring. You’d be a100% right haha. I didn’t even know there was a left and right. Thanks. lucky the old one is ok. Lots to learn with these old girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenendcindyc Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Oh good, glad we caught that. They work really poorly when the wrong one is installed. Nice job on that switch. But I would have put the penny in the other way around 😀. Just kidding. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenendcindyc Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Hay Matt, I was just looking at some of the pics from this topic. I’ve noticed in the pic with your beautifully smooth and painted engine block that the main bearing cap studs appear to have been removed. How did you get them to unscrew from the block? Mine appear to be pined in to prevent them from turning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 It’s a J block and they were not pinned in. The M block does have pins in it though. Glad you picked me up on that spring. I also turned the penny for safe measure. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog_eng Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Matt, will be really interested in the switch rebuild. Did mine some years ago and can't really remember exactly what I did. I have only just started using it and it sometimes the switch does not work. I suspect I have not got the length of the shaft quite right. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenendcindyc Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Ahhhhhh so some are not pinned good to know. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bullfrog_eng said: Matt, will be really interested in the switch rebuild. Did mine some years ago and can't really remember exactly what I did. I have only just started using it and it sometimes the switch does not work. I suspect I have not got the length of the shaft quite right. John After a bit of adjustment of my coins to get them the correct height it seems to be working a treat. Bench tested a dozen or so times all good. They have a lot of kick the old starters. I had to turn up a few insulating bushes for all my bits. Definitely a fiddley job and my way is probably not the norm. I used some devcon on the inside of my casting because some numb nut dropped it and cracked it. I think I’ll finish that bloke up this afternoon 😁 It went back together quite well and won’t break now. Ready for paint now so I might have to keep the numb nut on for a bit longer. 😂 Edited November 18, 2020 by Mattml430 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Some days you eat the peanuts, other days you eat the shells. I think the original housings were pot metal. The ones being repoped are aluminum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, nearchoclatetown said: Some days you eat the peanuts, other days you eat the shells. I think the original housings were pot metal. The ones being repoped are aluminum. This one was pot metal. It’s a shame it cracked but shit happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog_eng Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Good to see the photos, bugger about the crack. I rebuilt mine using a Glenn Smith housing some years ago. From your photos, it looks like I made the shaft a bit too short (which I was starting to suspect), so will need to revisit this some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) Starter Motor and water pump is all painted and working really well. hopefully my 1922 pennies won’t let me down. See those screws Ron. Home made. Edited November 19, 2020 by Mattml430 (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Got my wheel centre’s painted this afternoon. This is the first bit of colour on the car. New rims are being made up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Mattml430 said: Starter Motor and water pump is all painted and working really well. hopefully my 1922 pennies won’t let me down. See those screws Ron. Home made. GOOD LAD!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 I received a text message last night that my engine block is all finished and ready to pick up. My flywheel and pressure plate is also ready and has been balanced. He tells me it’s within 1.87 grams. The weight of a business card apparently. So I think that’s close enough. pretty excited!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 2:52 PM, Mattml430 said: Starter Motor and water pump is all painted and working really well. hopefully my 1922 pennies won’t let me down. See those screws Ron. Home made. The Tuppeny starter motor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Those wheel centres look stunning......great job mate. Starter motor rebuild too looks fantastic. Keep the photos coming ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Picked up my engine from the machine shop today and very happy with the results. They did a great job on the whole engine. Fitted hardened seats and new valves. Also did all the guides. They also took a fraction off the head and deck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Looking fantastic Matt The wheel centers are a sexy colour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Ian_Greenlaw said: Those wheel centres look stunning......great job mate. Starter motor rebuild too looks fantastic. Keep the photos coming ! Thanks Ian , Steve in Queensland is rolling me up some new rims so as soon as he gets time to do them he’ll send them down and I’ll get them painted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattml430 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Ron Lawson said: Looking fantastic Matt The wheel centers are a sexy colour Thanks Ron just waiting now on a gasket kit for the engine and I can start the assembly process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Mattml430 said: Thanks Ron just waiting now on a gasket kit for the engine and I can start the assembly process. 2 hours ago, Mattml430 said: Thanks Ron just waiting now on a gasket kit for the engine and I can start the assembly process. I had better get my ring into gear or you will have yours finished before me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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