Charlie K Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'm looking for type number and other data of this 1933 Dodge Oil Bath. https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Dodge-Oil-Bath-BR/123763240289?hash=item1cd0dd2d61:g:in8AAOSw9Gdc1diC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke01 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 That doesn’t look like the oil bath air cleaner as pictured in my owners manual for 1933. I’m not near my car or manual right now to send a picture but there is no screen showing on the one I have. Zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stvaughn Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I’m interested in that but don’t know how to contact in French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Looks like it might be a Burgess unit. Burgess also made a taller sealed unit that was just dipped in oil. They were used as the standard filter on '36 Dodges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie K Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 stvaughn, I use Google Translate. It's not perfect but works more or less accurate for a few sentences. I managed to communicate with it to a Japanese guy too. https://translate.google.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stvaughn Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Charlie K said: stvaughn, I use Google Translate. It's not perfect but works more or less accurate for a few sentences. I managed to communicate with it to a Japanese guy too. https://translate.google.com/ Charlie K, If your interested in it I’ll back off until you decide. If your not let me know. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, zeke01 said: That doesn’t look like the oil bath air cleaner as pictured in my owners manual for 1933. I’m not near my car or manual right now to send a picture but there is no screen showing on the one I have. Zeke It doesn't look like the "helmut style" filter shown in the '33 Plymouth instruction book either, but I've see a number of very original '33 Plymouths with filters that look like the one these photos. I suspect there was a running change fairly early in the model year and the one the OP posted is the later one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie K Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 Steve, I only need some dimension data, e.g. diameter, heigh and more photos for 3D computer modeling. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie K Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 In fact I try to identify the air cleaner used on the 1935 Graham model 73 engine. The engine was later sold to the Japanese with the whole production line along with the Crusader model 80 line. The Crusader model 80 with the model 73 engine became the Nissan 70. The model 73 engine was used on the Nissan 80 and 180 trucks and Nissan 90 buses too. The attached picture shows the truck engine's air cleaner. (Don't bother with the Nissan emblem on it. Nissan advertised the model to the public as their own original design.) The air cleaner looks similar to those used on Dodge, Buick and Plymouth. It is maybe AC or Burgess design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 2 hours ago, stvaughn said: I’m interested in that but don’t know how to contact in French. Try this link instead: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Dodge-Oil-Bath-BR/123763240289?hash=item1cd0dd2d61:g:in8AAOSw9Gdc1diC The seller is actually in the US. I use Google Translate regularly to talk to potential buyers is Quebec and it always seems to get the job done just in case you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke01 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 It is my understanding that the “helmet” style is not an oil bath per say but a helmet containing a mesh soaked in oil to catch dirt. The oil bath is different in appearance and function. There is a reservoir contains 50 weight oil that catches contaminates along with the mesh. I have one of both and prefer the oil bath. The other is messy because the excess oil simply drips down on the manifolds. This response comes with the caveat that I might be wrong. My ignorance would fill many books. Zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, zeke01 said: It is my understanding that the “helmet” style is not an oil bath per say but a helmet containing a mesh soaked in oil to catch dirt. The oil bath is different in appearance and function. There is a reservoir contains 50 weight oil that catches contaminates along with the mesh. I have one of both and prefer the oil bath. The other is messy because the excess oil simply drips down on the manifolds. This response comes with the caveat that I might be wrong. My ignorance would fill many books. Zeke Neither the helmut style nor the one in the photos above are oil bath: They are simply full of wire mesh that you are supposed to clean by rinsing in kerosene and then re-oil with heavy motor oil. I have both styles, one like above that came on my car and a helmut style to keep the judges in the Plymouth Club happy. They are both a royal pain with respect to dripping oil on the manifold. An oil bath filter would be a huge improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke01 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, ply33 said: Neither the helmut style nor the one in the photos above are oil bath: They are simply full of wire mesh that you are supposed to clean by rinsing in kerosene and then re-oil with heavy motor oil. I have both styles, one like above that came on my car and a helmut style to keep the judges in the Plymouth Club happy. They are both a royal pain with respect to dripping oil on the manifold. An oil bath filter would be a huge improvement. According to my owners manual the 1933 Dodge had as an optional oil bath air cleaner (as described above). As an aside, the oil filler cap was also different from the one provided with the standard air filter. It may be a couple of weeks before I get a chance to provide photos, but I will show my evidence on the subject. Zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke01 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 This is the original air cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeke01 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I believe this is the optional oil bath cleaner for 1933 but I can’t find my reference for it. Zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in PA Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) On 11/9/2019 at 12:44 PM, Charlie K said: I'm looking for type number and other data of this 1933 Dodge Oil Bath. https://www.cafr.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Dodge-Oil-Bath-BR/123763240289?hash=item1cd0dd2d61:g:in8AAOSw9Gdc1diC It sure does look like a 36 Dodge air cleaner as seen below. Edit on 11/27: just looked closer at the 36 air filter more closely. It does *not* have radial embossing as shown in this thread’s first pic ; it has a smooth top. Pic to come later. Edited November 27, 2019 by Pete in PA (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie K Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 Many thanks folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now