old-tank Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 hours ago, 38Buick 80C said: a lot of Bleachy's and elbow grease. Scotchbrite pads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 hours ago, old-tank said: Scotchbrite pads there is a brush I am using in one of the photos, scotchbrite is better? Will have to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, 38Buick 80C said: there is a brush I am using in one of the photos, scotchbrite is better? Will have to try it. On old whitewalls, I use scotchbrite and straight simple green then rinse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dei Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I have good luck with SOS Pads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Go-Jo Hand cleaner on my cars. It doesn't have bleach to the best of my knowledge. Works well, but does need thorough rinsing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Side project... I had a few lights out in the garage. Rather than fix the ballast. I decided to upgrade to the LEDs I use in my dealership projects in the parts dept. Needless to say I know a guy (in this case a gal). I also upgraded most to 8' from 4'. Though 2 I had to keep at 4'. I did one tonight. They are WAY brighter! I will get to the others later. Edited April 27, 2020 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 They make a huge difference in a work environment. I don’t necessarily like LEDs inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 I like the LEDs a lot more than T8 fluorescent--even though you don't necessarily see the flickering, after a few hours your eyes feel it. LEDs are much easier on the eyes, including the added light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Interestingly enough, I ordered LED tubes to replace all of the 8 foot T8 tubes in my garage a few days ago. One of the ballasts had started buzzing enough to irritate me a few days ago. I expect to receive them in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemb Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 11:59 AM, 38Buick 80C said: So I adjusted the brakes per the manual. I have more than the 2" of travel and actually am rubbing the floor board. I couldn't get the rear brakes to tighten up per the manual. I must have some adjustment in the drum itself I need to make first or something. I bottomed out both adjuster in the rear. Anyone have any experience to guide me? Here is the brake pedal before and bottomed. Brian maybe this post may be helpful? He details some steps on adjusting the brakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) On 4/26/2020 at 6:54 PM, 38Buick 80C said: Today was a mish mash of not much and a some progress> I've moved on to stuff I didn't take off the car myself so definitely slower paddling trying to figure out where parts are between two house (dad's and mine) and what i am even looking for. I had intended to put all the door latch hardware in place and put all the door handles in. I knew two doors latched and 2 didn't I quickly discovered i didnt have the needed parts at my house. I placed an order to the dad warehouse and he brought these over But it appear i also need to complete the window installation first before i do that and he says he doesn't have any glass. plus i have to install and wrap in felt the window channel rubber He brought some other stuff over and I found some parts he needed for the 38-81 he's resurrecting a bit so one bit at a time we are clean up our respective "warehouses" of parts In my search for parts i needed i found the elusive bell housing cover. I painted it up and will install it tomorrow. In my various rambling progress for the day I cleaned up a bunch of the glass i do have installed namely the windshield, rear window and rear 1/4 windows. I have a good scratch on the windshield I need to polish out or something and the window doesn't go up and down smooth so i have to fix that. I also played around with bleaching the white walls some. I for got to take a before shot so here is the drivers side and then the passenger side progress. I saw someone use "Scrubbing Bubbles" bathroom cleaner on their seriously yellowed whitewalls - never tried it as I am a fan of the blue pre-soaped SOS pads, but perhaps try a spot and see if it works. Edited April 30, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 7:26 PM, 38Buick 80C said: So is there adjustment within the drum or do I just need to move the level thing on the came another notch for the rear brakes so i can get them to tighten up. I feel like if I can get those to tighten up I will have tight brakes that only travel the 2" per the manual and then wont rub the floor board. Also will see if the floor board has some play to move it down a scootch. I found the 1931 Cadillacs had quite a bit of fudge factor adjustment an pedals and floor boards (but seemed I had to take a Dremel/moto tool to the floorboard no matter what I tried as could not find what I wanted in spacing - my guess it was to do with reproduction pads under body - and sometimes a project has to end and move onto the next one - which I did), but yes, you need properly adjusted mechanical brakes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuickBob49 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 From over 40 years experience with whitewall tires on my 1949 Super 51, I swear by brand new SOS pads. They will also smooth out abrasions on the whitewalls that you get when you misjudge your distance from curbs and scrape them up. Ouch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 Gonna try some evaporust tonight. I put a plug in the temp line and put a little water in the system to check for leaks. Then I put a random temp gauge in the water line to plug that, gonna send the correct one to Bob's for a rebuild. Anyone know what that temp gauge is off of? If no leaks after dinner gonna put the evaporust in and let it sit til Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 It took about 2.5 gallons... now to let it sit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Time is your friend. It'll turn out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 29, 2020 Author Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said: Time is your friend. It'll turn out great. 10-4 I have a feeling the two things I was promised this week aren't gonna be done so it could go a whole nother week and not one second of progress would be lost, so we will see. Plus i still have to figure out how to take a apart this water pump and soak it too Edited April 29, 2020 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, 38Buick 80C said: Anyone know what that temp gauge is off of? 1938 Buick would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, MCHinson said: 1938 Buick would be my guess. LOL good guess but the face design is not '38. '38 has white hashes and this is circles with red shadows if you look closely, plus the back ground color is too green for '38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Well water pump bushing removal went... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 19 hours ago, 38Buick 80C said: Well water pump bushing removal went... Your going to need another one of those 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Trying to finish up more lights in the garage this AM. One down 4 to go, but only gonna be able to do 2 more today. Dad did deliver these And a nice preice of rear glass ready to go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Ok done with LEDs for today back to the car 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Epoxied the floor board back together Installed the now found and painted bell housing cover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 The left front window channel was included in what dad brought over. It's rusted out pretty good. Will see what I can do with it but got to get glass measurements so I have have a piece cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 38Buick 80C said: The left front window channel was included in what dad brought over. It's rusted out pretty good. Will see what I can do with it but got to get glass measurements so I have have a piece cut. Try evapo-rust - get a piece of plastic plumbing tube it will fit in and a cap for the end (and then plumbing cement on the end cap and fill with the evapo-rust or sandblast - I have been using rustolium rust converter primer them for things like this and then rust-olium automotive paint or regular rust-olium since no once sees it and .... Edited May 2, 2020 by John_Mereness (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, John_Mereness said: Try evapo-rust - get a piece of plastic plumbing tube it will fit in and a cap for the end (and then plumbing cement on the end cap and fill with the evapo-rust or sandblast - I have been using rustolium rust converter primer them for things like this and then rust-olium automotive paint or regular rust-olium since no once sees it and .... I'm not worried about the rust on it, I'm worried about how ate up it is already is. Tough to see in the photo but it's Swiss cheese on the one side. Think i need to have a reinforcement welded on to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Worked on door hardware today. Goal was to have 4 latching doors with eterior door handles First step was to re-tap the holes in the exterior door handles Before After Then i installed handles on the RF/LR Doors that already have glass and the interior hardware in Rear went off fine RF was drooping severely I determined it wasn't getting past the catch allowing the handle to hang down. I adjusted the catch as best I could in the wood. Steel bodied 38 is a lot more forgiving on adjustment of these. after that, much better Then on to the RR/LF. Despite having good glass ready to go in the RR. I need to felt wrap one of the glass rubber channels ( I had one good one). I will probably end up having to take this back off to put the channel in but I was experimenting some. I did determine i can get the glass in with the wood hardware piece in place. Also you can see I am missing the interior door handle mount thing. The one i have has the old handle broke off in the threads of the escutcheon (and found later the RF is the same). So may have to take it off anyway to mount that. Will just have to play with that later. and latched shut And then the RF same thing need to put rubber window channel in later. and latched I also messed around with the front seat adjuster thing (the thing that moves the seat forward and backward. I bought i gear thing from Bob's you can see in one of the photos below but i see no means to use it. I also had another threaded rod with handle and hardware but quickly determined it must be for a different car. I'm definitely missing parts to make this work and have a few extra I don't understand what they are for. I'll start researching what I should have here cause at the moment I'm at a loss. gear thing from Bob's on the middle left of the second photo. I also adjusted the floor board down a bit and got some more clearance. but then put the trim plate on and had less clearance... I seem to be missing an upper trim plate as well. Based on the firewall engine side of the car Dad most likely had it on post painting as there is evidence of lock washer scratches. So will need to hunt for that some more. Final item of the day... I messed with the steering wheel. It's never been one piece. I got all the wood together as one and placed together. I assume it must get glued and then perhaps covered in lacquer? i see no other obvious methods of holding it all together unless it gets smalls screws from the back side? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 And needless to say I didn't get radiator or grill back as promised... Next week I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 two small but easy projects to start the day. First the frame cross bar is pretty dinged up and it is exposed after all the sheet metal is on so gave it a good sanding and hit is with a couple coats of gloss black Before Sanded After The transmission shift lever was unpainted on this car. I believe it should actually be chromed the best I can tell, but I decided to hit is with gloss black as well. Sanded After 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Also as you may have noticed in some of the photos I out an old 6V Optima Battery in. I have it sitting on a battery tender which is show green, but I did hit the starter pedal a few times and nothing. I got my 12V jump pack and hooked that up as the starter is the only wired at this point and I've used the jump pack on my 6V 38s numerous times. She turned over slowly a few times. So that's good. Looks like I need a fresh battery but I am pleased. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Adjusted the brakes again. I moved the level thing on the cam to tighten the brakes and then followed the directions in the manual. Success!!! Much better and the pedal travel is much less so it doesn't rub the floor board any more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Dad brought more stuff. Other rear fender and trunk rack Interior wood grain window surrounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Looks like I am missing onerear lower trim and one each front and rear upper trim. All will need to be wood grained... Perhaps a new skill to learn... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Noticed I have two profiles of these. But I only have 1 of the thicker profile, while I have enough for a whole car of the other. Thicker one has a number on it A18410 thinner one has A18942 on all of them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Electric fuel pump functional..👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) Random windshield trim piece I found and installed. Edited May 4, 2020 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 Some scratches in the windshield. Before I polished with steel wool and mother's mag and aluminum polish. Followed be polishing compound. Much better but still visible. Will just have to keep working at it. Can really see it on the inside. Also sratched from wiper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 I decided to go shopping... I went to Dad's and looked through what he had, here's what I "scored" That's a good, 2 dash boards (one complete with all the stuff, a bunch of window shades, running board rubber, all the headlight components, and the second picture appears to be another complete set of the window trim. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 And the paper one those is from... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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