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"Miss Helen" my show car. Ron Warner

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This my 1928, K model DeSoto Conquistador, DeLujo Rumble seat coupe. I'm trying to find out how many of them were built.

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I see the Cupe de Lujo also had your version....still no production numbers on that one, either....

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It groups all of the 1929 body styles together and says that 80,000 were built. Probably very few of the rumble seat coupe version.

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3 hours ago, keiser31 said:

You are calling the car a 1928, but it has 1929 plates.

My fed co number tells me it was built in Oct of 28 but first sold in 1929.

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3 hours ago, sirlucky said:

My fed co number tells me it was built in Oct of 28 but first sold in 1929.

 

 

I believe 1929 was the first DeSoto model year, and cars built in 28 were sold as 29 models - much like now when new models come out before that model year starts.

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Nice, no doubt!  That said, while it may be a post-war car me thinks it is not a post WWII car?

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On ‎10‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 10:43 AM, keiser31 said:

You are calling the car a 1928, but it has 1929 plates.

It was first sold in 1929 and has been regestered as a 1929 here in Calif. Trying to get it changed to 28 and find another set of plates for California 1928.

 

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On 10/14/2019 at 6:01 PM, CHuDWah said:

 

 

I believe 1929 was the first DeSoto model year, and cars built in 28 were sold as 29 models - much like now when new models come out before that model year starts.

 

That being the case, there are NO 1928 DE Sotos. If you actually can turn your '29 into a '28, you will then have something truly UNIQUE ! Or am I the one who is missing something here ?      -    Carl 

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9 hours ago, C Carl said:

 

That being the case, there are NO 1928 DE Sotos. If you actually can turn your '29 into a '28, you will then have something truly UNIQUE ! Or am I the one who is missing something here ?      -    Carl 

Carl, in some states you must register your car by the year it was built not the model year. I have talked to other members of the National Desoto club who have 28's and they have to register them as 1928's.

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My 1924 Cad was registered on its Ohio title as a '25. Washington DOL had no hesitation correcting that upon being presented with logical, irrefutable evidence. My '27 had been registered as a'26. Oregon DOL was just as cooperative in correcting the error. But you must have clear documentation.

 

I hope you don't live in one of those states where a car built in October 2019 can not be registered as the 2020 it is.

 

27 minutes ago, sirlucky said:

. I have talked to other members of the National Desoto club who have 28's and they have to register them as 1928's.

 

So are the other members happy that their '29s must be called'28s  ?  I would have been frosted if I were forced to call a blatantly obvious 1927 Cadillac, a '26. 

 

23 hours ago, sirlucky said:

It was first sold in 1929 and has been regestered as a 1929 here in Calif. Trying to get it changed to 28 and find another set of plates for California 1928.

 

 

Shhhh.................. !!!!!!!!!!!!   🤫  Don't tell NO body  🤭   Save yourself the hassle of time and money spent trying to turn a '29 De Soto into a 1928 in California.  😉  (Sleepin' dogs, & California DMV, you know). By the way : Where in Cal do lucky you live, sir ?      Aging and ailing in wet, dark, gloomy, depressing Washington,      -    Unlucky Cadillac Carl 

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2 hours ago, C Carl said:

My 1924 Cad was registered on its Ohio title as a '25. Washington DOL had no hesitation correcting that upon being presented with logical, irrefutable evidence. My '27 had been registered as a'26. Oregon DOL was just as cooperative in correcting the error. But you must have clear documentation.

 

I hope you don't live in one of those states where a car built in October 2019 can not be registered as the 2020 it is.

 

 

So are the other members happy that their '29s must be called'28s  ?  I would have been frosted if I were forced to call a blatantly obvious 1927 Cadillac, a '26. 

 

 

Shhhh.................. !!!!!!!!!!!!   🤫  Don't tell NO body  🤭   Save yourself the hassle of time and money spent trying to turn a '29 De Soto into a 1928 in California.  😉  (Sleepin' dogs, & California DMV, you know). By the way : Where in Cal do lucky you live, sir ?      Aging and ailing in wet, dark, gloomy, depressing Washington,      -    Unlucky Cadillac Carl 

I just think that if a car is built in 1928 than it is a 1928, not a 1929 the year it was sold. Have talked to  couple of 28 owners and they were upset when they had to register them as 29 making them a year newer and dropped the value of the cars. If my car is a 28 then that makes her 92 years old and I will be 82 years old in June. My goal is to show her when she is 100 and I'm 90. I live here in Northern Calif. 125 miles north of Sacramento and 6 miles east of I-5. The little town of Tehama,( Pop.400?). My deck sits 20ft.above the Sacramento River.

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is that near Burney? I've been to Burney and seen the falls.

 

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1 hour ago, sirlucky said:

I just think that if a car is built in 1928 than it is a 1928, not a 1929 the year it was sold. Have talked to  couple of 28 owners and they were upset when they had to register them as 29 making them a year newer and dropped the value of the cars. If my car is a 28 then that makes her 92 years old and I will be 82 years old in June. My goal is to show her when she is 100 and I'm 90. I live here in Northern Calif. 125 miles north of Sacramento and 6 miles east of I-5. The little town of Tehama,( Pop.400?). My deck sits 20ft.above the Sacramento River.

 

 

Even if you could get DMV to title your car as a 1944 Edsel, that doesn't make it one.  Walter P said it's a 29 regardless when it was built - I choose to believe him over DMV.  I doubt titling as a 28 versus a 29 will make any difference in value, especially when most buyers know 29 was the first model year.

 

There's no previous year to compare your car but for example, here's a 37 DeSoto:

 

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and here's a 38:

 

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Completely different grills, headlights, bumpers, etc but let's say the 38 was built in late 37.  By your logic, that makes it a 37 - sorry, no.

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1 hour ago, mike6024 said:

is that near Burney? I've been to Burney and seen the falls.

 

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I'm about50 ? miles south of there. 15 miles south of Red Bluff.

 

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1 hour ago, CHuDWah said:

 

 

Even if you could get DMV to title your car as a 1944 Edsel, that doesn't make it one.  Walter P said it's a 29 regardless when it was built - I choose to believe him over DMV.  I doubt titling as a 28 versus a 29 will make any difference in value, especially when most buyers know 29 was the first model year.

 

There's no previous year to compare your car but for example, here's a 37 DeSoto:

 

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and here's a 38:

 

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Completely different grills, headlights, bumpers, etc but let's say the 38 was built in late 37.  By your logic, that makes it a 37 - sorry, no.

They started building the DeSoto in August ? of 1928, my car came off the line in the second week of Oct. 1928, this would be about the 5th or 6th week of production according to the antique auto club of America who found it by using the fedco # on the Dash.

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1 hour ago, sirlucky said:

They started building the DeSoto in August ? of 1928, my car came off the line in the second week of Oct. 1928, this would be about the 5th or 6th week of production according to the antique auto club of America who found it by using the fedco # on the Dash.

 

 

...and?  That would make it an early production 29 MODEL year, which may or may not be worth a premium - but it's still a 29.

 

Look, I'm not dissing your car.  It appears to be very nice.  Call it what you will but it's a 29.

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I give up, it is a 29 model built in 28, I will still show it as a 28. By the way, she has won 45 Best in her class which some times is 1904 to 54 and other times its 1928-31 and 2 Concourse d Elegance, and 5 best of show. Had judge tell me that he has judged shows all over the west coast and Nevada and she is the oldest DeSoto he has ever seen. It is one of 4 known on the west coast and one of 8 in the world according to the National Desoto club records. Would love to see a picture your car.

 

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Hi Ron ! Now I see where Tehama is. Looks like you have virtually unlimited back roads running in all directions from you. Must be some really great scenic slow roads in your general area ? Very interesting destinations within a reasonable radius. Also looks like you are not far from that terrible fire last year.    -   Carl 

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Yup, I live in a rural area with miles of back roads. I have Mount Lassen to the east of me about 50 miles and Mt. Shasta 80 miles to the north of me.. As for the fire's the Car fire which burned a lot of homes in the Redding area was 50 Miles to the North West of me and then the Camp fire which destroyed Paradice, Ca. was 40 miles to the south east of me. Being a retired firefighter from southern Ca. I almost burnt up my scanner. I was the Mayor of The City of Tehama for 12 years and then a Tehama County Supervisor for 8 years but retired from all of that in 2012, now I just fish and Garden and do car shows. How about you ? what are you into ?? Do you do Facebook ? I'm there also Just look for Ron Warner Tehama Calif. I forgot to mention that they lost about 300 show and collector cars and truckes and motorcycles in the Camp fire and more than a hundred in the Redding fire. My friend did save his 1961 Desoto, the last year they built them and sometimes at car shows we park our cars nose to nose to show the folks the first and last Desoto's to be built

 

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I've been around there doing surveying. Stayed a week in Red Bluff, surveyed a PG&E gas main west somewhat along hwy 36 till it got to Fortuna, and stayed there several days too. I liked Fortuna. Then Eureka, then Klamath Falls Oregon. down to Tulelake Calif, Burney, then south through the hills to Anderson. Burney is fly fishing paradise. My Aunt and Uncle lived in Corning.

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You should have stopped by my place!

 

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Why hasn't this thread been moved, one wonders?

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